Right. I really don't understand ppl nowdays. If they dont like the storyline or genre like this , they can skip it rather than they still finish it and whining abt the stories. I swear the comments section not like this a couple years ago and they still respect story genre.
Exactly like I just don't understand these people. They will deliberately seek out stories depicting problematic relationships and then curse it for being problematic. Wtf is wrong with them and the irritating thing is that they are so loud with their bs and moronic opinions. People who like such works can't enjoy them in peace. I detest these people and I really wish they'd stop invading like weeds.
My guy, I love enemies to lovers and problematic charas. This manga is just written terribly, and even if the characters and storytelling weren't weak, you can't deny that 5 chapters was not enough time to go from "I'm never going to be your doll because religion and you killed my friends by the barrel" to "I'll be your doll but now you're okay with humans and okay I'll be your knight babe"
At least first read what I've written then reply yeah? I don't think it's all that good myself. The characters are shallow and yeah it's way too short. I agree completely. My problem is with people who think enemies to lovers is gonna be all sunshine and rainbows. I'm talking about people who are saying the puppeteer is shit because he wants to make the knight his doll, makes him his slave and then raped him(which is untrue btw). Like what the fuck did they expect from such a trope? That the puppeteer would treat a knight from an enemy kingdom with dignity and love right off the bat? That the knight would fall in love with the puppeteer at first sight for saving him? That they're not gonna treat each other terribly? They forget that the knight himself offered to be a SEX SLAVE, do those idiots not know what a fucking sex slave is? & When he's treated like a sex slave by Chris they say it's rape. This situation is unique because the knight knew what's gonna happen to him if he chooses to be sex slave and yeah it's not much of a choice when the other option is death but he specifically said sex slave. It's dubious consent. Frankly I don't even consider this work to even be a good enemies to lovers story, there's no tension, no drama, they don't try to kill each other, the knight acquiesces too easily and the puppeteer falls in love too fast. But read what I've actually said about this story before saying anything to me. People who can't handle these subject matters should not say works like this are shit because of the problematic subject itself. And yes those who do are idiots with no braincells.
Dude it literally is rape there's nothing dubious about it lol if your options are die (or in this case become what you consider to be a godless abomination?) or sex and you choose the latter, that's coercion, not consent, and it's not even a grey area
My point is though that you're assuming these people hate problematic stories in general, but most of the comments I see are hoping that the puppeteer dies or suffers, which doesn't mean that they hate angst or enemies to lovers, it just means that the character has no likeable characteristics. Because it's written poorly.
Yea and for everything we say, they will agains ppl who enjoy it and usually will telling we are some sick psycho to enjoy those stories. Weird thing they also read it to the end just to bitching abt it . I feel like they new to yaoi world or smt wrong with them in RL . The older generation or more open one will think it's entertainment only and the ppl who agains it always relate it to reality and morality ╮(￣▽￣)╭ . Sometime i confused bcs those ppl cannot differentiated between fiction and reality LOL. We know there will many kind of stories in BL and any others genre work. Its not rainbow and Sunshine. Let us ppl who like it enjoy in peace right (づ￣ ³￣)づ
I guess we see things differently then because I don't count that as rape. And no the people whining definitely can't read problematic stories. This is not the first instance where this has happened. I mostly read problematic stories because sweet romance gives me the hives and this is the case in every single one of them. People will read an age gap and whine why the mc is choosing to be with the person who's very old/younger than them, same with incest etc. They will read a story where the ml/fl is abusive and/or toxic and whine that the mc should leave him/her when it's almost always clear that this is a PROBLEMATIC ROMANCE and they're going to end up together. I detest these people, they're stupid. In this story, in the 1st ch mc offers to become ml's sex slave. If they're uncomfortable with a master-slave relationship they shouldn't have read any further. Of fucking course there's gonna be rape in such stories. And it's a romance so of fucking course they're still going to end up together. I'm not saying this story is very good or anything it's not. I've said this in some comment or reply but I'll repeat it again- the characters are shallow and have no depth, they're both written poorly, the story is too short, the romance development is abrupt & doesn't make any sense, there's not even any of the delicious tension, drama or attempted murder attempts that I expect from such stories etc. See, this is criticism and not waaah ml raped mc so ml bad so ml should die/suffer but he didn't so story bad. Oh and mc deserves better
Yup, exactly. All of this.
Here's the rest of my answer-
This mc is so uninteresting I don't know why these people like him so much that they're wishing suffering on a FICTIONAL character lmao. So if you crybabies can't handle a fictional master-slave relationship where wonder of wonders the master forces his sex slave to have sex with him(yk the whole point of a sex slave) then no need to read it. It's like going to watch a slasher movie and then complaining that characters get brutally killed, idiots. 'No likeable characteristics' yk what kind of characters don't have any of those and are sometimes even irredeemable and have committed several crimes or atrocities but are still popular and people love them- Villains, so your argument doesn't make sense. Also in this particular story, I don't see a single person having a problem with the fact that Chris sacrificed countless SOULS and also that the knight didn't say anything to that. Even knowing how despicable Chris is to sacrifice so many souls he's not angry at him at all, means he's not so pure after all & these Puritans only have problem with the rape and not the sacrificing souls thing. Ever wonder why?
Don't reply to this comment I won't respond. I've had enough of dealing with stupid puritans for a while
Honestly wasn't going to reply because you wrote a whole essay but I lowkey hate when people say "I'm done arguing so YOU can't reply" so uh cope and seethe ig
I swear to god why are there so many idiots in the comments? Do you idiots not know what enemies to lovers means? Why are you reading a work like that then? Of fucking course it's gonna be problematic. Whining about the puppeteer as if he isn't the reason the knight is alive? Saying he raped the knight when he had agreed to be his slave. Don't know what a master-slave dynamic entails? Of course there's gonna be consent issues and the knight was the one who proposed this idea to an ENEMY, he knew what to expect but the crybabies commenting and giving low stars to this manga certainly don't so why not save yourself the time and read some boring unproblematic fluffy work instead. You may not like this work bc of many reasons but people complaining about the problematic aspects and the puppeteer are dumb. This just goes to show their level of intelligence and understanding. I'm sincerely asking you not to read a problematic work and then cry it's problematic. Some of us like reading works with things like- toxic and abusive relationships, incest, age gap, power dynamics, dubious consent etc and works like this are for us. If you can't handle it no need to read it