Wait, so if Luca’s bio dad is the son of the previous king’s daughter and his bio mom ...

Applecreampied January 27, 2024 2:55 pm

Wait, so if Luca’s bio dad is the son of the previous king’s daughter and his bio mom is the granddaughter of the previous king’s sister, then that means Luca’s biological mother and father 2nd cousins. My boy can’t catch a break.

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    LadyLumiere January 27, 2024 3:36 pm

    Cant escape that royal trope lol

    Stabrina January 27, 2024 5:18 pm

    If I remember correctly his biological mom and his aunt had different mothers? I may be misremembering though.

    karossi January 27, 2024 6:39 pm

    From what i remember and this is

    ***spoilers***




    Judith and her sister, Lucas' mom, share the same parents. But apparently, Johannes is not actually Lucas' bio dad. So Lucas is royal blood in the same way Judith is, through his great grandmothers side. He has no ties to Winterwald though. He probably just looks a lot like Johannes because they're relatives and all the royals look similar.

    My memory might be wrong but I'm 80% sure this is correct lol

    Nnmy January 27, 2024 8:15 pm
    From what i remember and this is ***spoilers*** Judith and her sister, Lucas' mom, share the same parents. But apparently, Johannes is not actually Lucas' bio dad. So Lucas is royal blood in the same way Judith... karossi

    WHAT?! Lucas notna Winterwald? That kinda defeat the sensenof the plot/climax/idea??

    junochi January 27, 2024 9:32 pm
    From what i remember and this is ***spoilers*** Judith and her sister, Lucas' mom, share the same parents. But apparently, Johannes is not actually Lucas' bio dad. So Lucas is royal blood in the same way Judith... karossi

    wait when was it revealed he's not Johannes' son tf?

    CathyBLover January 27, 2024 10:06 pm
    wait when was it revealed he's not Johannes' son tf? junochi

    Now, apparently. The novel story is further ahead than this drawn manhwa.

    karossi January 28, 2024 12:25 am
    WHAT?! Lucas notna Winterwald? That kinda defeat the sensenof the plot/climax/idea?? Nnmy

    Nah, it actually ends up making more sense as to why everything unfolded the way it did in the end and the time return etc. Also it means less incest in the royal line lmao since Lucas is in love with the third princess. And if he was Johannes son it would mean he was in love with his... aunt? 3rd cousin? I'm not even sure where that stands at that point, but it'd be a wreath.

    junochi January 28, 2024 3:47 am
    Nah, it actually ends up making more sense as to why everything unfolded the way it did in the end and the time return etc. Also it means less incest in the royal line lmao since Lucas is in love with the third... karossi

    this gave me a headache fr
    who's the third princess? i forgot. is she the one with the side ponytail?

    karossi January 28, 2024 5:43 am

    Totally understand! Gave me a headache when I read the truth behind everything I was like whaaaa?? Plot twists everywhere lol

    The third princess is the youngest daughter of the current emperor. She's the one with dark hair that was introduced in chapter 83, I believe. I'm actually not sure what she is to Luca, but the gramp emperor is her grandpa and he is Lucas' great-uncle grandpa. Anyway, she's probs his third cousin not his aunt lol but still wild

    Nnmy January 28, 2024 6:14 am

    But then, Luca dont have the right to inherent Winterwald since he isnt Johannes son. If fl and rudy adopt him, the he can, but he still doesnt have any winterwald blood.


    Im not one steict with the vloodline shits hut the original plot of the story was all about winterwald heir then plot twish of Lluca.

    Im not hating it. Im kinda amaze by this plor twist

    karossi January 28, 2024 7:34 am
    But then, Luca dont have the right to inherent Winterwald since he isnt Johannes son. If fl and rudy adopt him, the he can, but he still doesnt have any winterwald blood.Im not one steict with the vloodline shi... Nnmy

    Correct, he actually doesn't have the right to inherent. But nobody knows this atm haha not even Judith.

    I think that's what makes it an interesting plot twist. In the original Luca went through so much hardship and for what? A family that he doesn't even belong to. In this new life Judith finds out she's royalty, and by extension so is Luca even if he isn't Johannes son. He already has something else to fall back on, and so does Judith.

    Applecreampied January 29, 2024 9:20 pm
    From what i remember and this is ***spoilers*** Judith and her sister, Lucas' mom, share the same parents. But apparently, Johannes is not actually Lucas' bio dad. So Lucas is royal blood in the same way Judith... karossi

    No? From what I know from the spoilers, Johannes is the one who wasn’t a Winterwald but HE IS lucas’ bio dad and he’s still the princess’ child, so he’s still a royal, just not a Winterwald. The ml’s mom is actually aware of it but doesn’t care because Johannes still looks a lot like the princess and as we all know she loves the princess so much that she shows preference to those who resembles her even in the slightest. But afaik Johannes is not a Winterwald and Lucas is not a Winterwald but both are still the princess’ lineage.

    Applecreampied January 29, 2024 9:33 pm
    wait when was it revealed he's not Johannes' son tf? junochi

    No, he is Johannes’ son. I think the person was confused. It is Johannes that is not the Duke’s son because his mother, the princess, had slept with a lot of men but never the duke due to their contract.

    Applecreampied January 29, 2024 9:37 pm
    Nah, it actually ends up making more sense as to why everything unfolded the way it did in the end and the time return etc. Also it means less incest in the royal line lmao since Lucas is in love with the third... karossi

    Lucas is still Johannes’ son, it’s Johannes who is not the duke’s son but still the princess Vanessa’s son. She used to sleep with a lot of men due to the sudden freedom she got when she got out of her father’s (previous kings) grasp. Here’s the link to the spoiler if you want, go to page 4:

    https://www.novelupdatesforum.com/threads/i-will-make-an-effort-to-change-the-genre.110458/page-4#post-6288094

    Applecreampied January 29, 2024 9:40 pm
    Correct, he actually doesn't have the right to inherent. But nobody knows this atm haha not even Judith. I think that's what makes it an interesting plot twist. In the original Luca went through so much hardshi... karossi

    The duke actually know that Johannes isn’t his bio son and SPOILER he’s the one who had Johannes killed because he basically talked trash about Sophie

    Applecreampied January 29, 2024 9:48 pm
    Nah, it actually ends up making more sense as to why everything unfolded the way it did in the end and the time return etc. Also it means less incest in the royal line lmao since Lucas is in love with the third... karossi

    Lucas’ bio parents are still incest because he’s still Johannes’ son. His bio parents are 2nd cousins because the previous king’s off spring and Judith’s parents are 1st cousins because their parents are brother and sister. That makes Johannes (previous king’s grandson) and Lucas’ bio mom (sister of the previous king) 2nd cousins.

    Applecreampied January 29, 2024 9:50 pm
    If I remember correctly his biological mom and his aunt had different mothers? I may be misremembering though. Stabrina

    They’re full blooded sisters. I think that's another manhwa

    Nnmy January 29, 2024 11:29 pm
    The duke actually know that Johannes isn’t his bio son and SPOILER he’s the one who had Johannes killed because he basically talked trash about Sophie Applecreampied

    DAMN. THATS PLOTWIST BEUOND THE PLOTWIST Σ(  ̄□ ̄||)

    karossi January 30, 2024 2:41 pm
    No? From what I know from the spoilers, Johannes is the one who wasn’t a Winterwald but HE IS lucas’ bio dad and he’s still the princess’ child, so he’s still a royal, just not a Winterwald. The ml’... Applecreampied

    No, haha I gave fair warning I was only 80% sure. But you're right! I probably got confused with Judith's sister saying she also slept around a fair bit and wasn't in love with Johannes. This also ties in with Lucas much better later, from the spoilers I remember.

    Applecreampied January 30, 2024 2:50 pm
    No, haha I gave fair warning I was only 80% sure. But you're right! I probably got confused with Judith's sister saying she also slept around a fair bit and wasn't in love with Johannes. This also ties in with ... karossi

    Yes lol, I got confused by what u said and even read the spoilers again haha. They both slept around quite a bit along but yeah, they’re second cousins. Though it’s not like they’re aware of it, just weird but I love how the author made sure Judith and Rudiger, the main leads, aren’t cousins lol