Yeah and that's the problem. The fact that majority of bl's (that has smut in them) have a dickhead top is insane!
And yes. Plenty of those MCs should not be with the assholes.
Then ig we should also normalize that some people will only judge the mistakes of a person but not the efforts they did. Life.
It's why i relate to yahwi his character design is realistic him not endgame would make this even more realistic but it's fiction he shud be endgame :VVV he is even a ceo now lmaooo unreal
well thats the reason we all have second pead syndrome with most of these bls lol
Girl I love Yahwi as a character so dw this is not a jab at him or his stans. It's especially directed towards those who actually think Jooin going back to him is weird which is absolutely not cause he has changed so much as a character and have gone through everything which a BL top usually goes through.
Idc what anyone says to me it's as clear as day that Yahwi is the endgame. Cause I would really feel weird if a dude who appeared in 2.5 seasons out of 3 seasons and the one who actually had a good character development is not gonna be the endgame.
hey nowww cain did have some development as well, letting go of jooin and his past life thing was a really hard decision for him and im sure we will see how it benefitted him just like it did yahwi.
whose onli development btw was treating a guy bad and realising that that is wrong lol. then he went thru the 7 stages of grief until he accepted that jooin doesnt want to be with him. not that lind blowing of a character development either.
and i know every yahwi stan is getting agressive when they hear a little criticism so i am just telling how i see things, not to offend anyone or the author or the characters of the story. yahwi is a great character but so is cain and jooin and they all had development. especially Jooin.
Real they said they are reading but they never did try to understand yahwi and jooins pov. Jooin has been crying out loud from s1 to s3 because he can't have yahwi lmao even cain knows this even cain knows jooin loves yahwi cain said it himself
Oh yes Jooin has always loved Yahwi and Cain always knew this until the very end. He tried everything from his side but he couldn't make Jooin love him. As a reader this fact was clear to me lol. Even in the latest chapter it's very clear that Yahwi and Jooin miss each other. I'm waiting for their reconciliation.
Well I can also say Clain's ONLY character development was finally trying to be a human from being a dog? Like I'm not even being sarcastic that's literally what he wanted to be until the very end lmao.
So are Cain Stans lol they really get agressive when we give lil criticisms towards Cain and say Cain was not a pure angel cause man had his flaws and questionable moments too but only Yahwi gets fried in this matter.
Anyway, I'm not here to start another argument I never said anything about Jooin and Cain bro? All I said was Yahwi had a good character development and centred in almost 60% of the manhwa (which is true) just like you're biased towards Cain I am biased towards Yahwi so obviously I'm gonna highlight him and talk about him only lmao.
I advise not to reply to cain stans comments cause next things you'll know they will start saying we are arguing with them lmao when they literally the one started commenting under yahwi stan topic
yeah girl i understand you lol i never tried to say cain was flawless just stated my opinion that they all had some sort of development, so not only yahwi.
and my guy cain was depressed asf and he somehow found the jooin oast life thing something like his only source of happiness so he just put jooin on this high ass pedestal and became kore desperate for affection every chapter lol. by tge end he kinda learned that he can't get jooin to love him and finally wanted to find his own meaning.
ik no one cares about that lol i just thought id tell you regardless
That's very true but looking how ytc went, it obvious it has clichés but its still very different compared to the 70% of BL. Ytc is the only one that made us actually question back and forth who's endgame. Because there's the ring and there's the drawing like wtf gonna happen because we still haven't seen the other guy. Really depends next chapter on who shows up. But the writer really did better than most bl wroters compared to love triangles that's what there's still a reaction like that. Because they did show a MC who finally decided to separate from both men.
It was my response to what you said how Yahwi Stans get agressive with the criticisms cause it's the same for Cain Stans too.... I didn't say you particularly said it lol.
Meanwhile my boy Yahwi was groomed since the childhood to believe that Love makes you weak and lost everyone who were dear to him and grew up loveless. He was desperate for love but didn't know how to express because his grand pa fcked him up with his upbringing. It's not an excuse but it definitely plays a major part in his character which many peeps don't wanna acknowledge. My boy surely committed many mistakes for which he faced the consequences as well but more than anything he learned to let go the one he loves the most despite the fact that he knew he would be left alone again with absolutely no one but himself. And ik many don't care but yup I thought I'd tell you this anyway.
so in the end, both guys had problems with the meaning of love and put jooin as their only source of love only to learn to let go in the end. to me it sounds like they made the same developments lol.
i wasnt trying to argue i was just trying to make this point, that they both had similar developments. i understand yahwis point too, me personally i just couldn't forgive and forget like jooin since i know people like yahwi in irl lol.
Well that's fine lol I get it everyone has their personal preferences and I just don't like Cain a character.
I just treat fiction like a fiction whenever I'm reading these manhwas because they are supposed to be perceived that way cause if I start associating these BL characters with irl then I don't think I would be able to read and enjoy any of them lmao.
i mean yeah separate fiction from reality i get that, most of these stories are unrealistic anyway, and its not like i treat them as real people or anything, i just dislike Yahwis character trope for my own reasons, i guess same with people who dislike Cain.
its fine to not agree on things but many people take it too far with voicing that disagreement and cussing people out over literal fiction lol.
not specifically talking about anyone in this thread just what i learned in this comment section especially.
Same reason i want to enjoy the fiction and be a part of the fandom that wins at the end that's why i switched like when i was 16 yo immature minor i really like cain but now when im 19 reading his character is actually annoying istg
Yeah, I get what you saying. Like you don't have to insult others or get personal over fiction that's just lame.
Girl I get ya I find his character really annoying since the beginning esp when he started guilt tripping and manipulating the mc a lot like bro literally said "if you don't hate me then do it with me" like tf it really pissed me off.
I have seen some people saying "Jooin going back to Yahwi would just diminish his character development cause he was hurt by Yahwi" umm isn't how 70-80% of the BLs here like that? Top guy being an asshole, bottom hurt, bottom leaves, top guy realizes, redemption arc, chasing arc, and finally reconciliation. With this logic all of these MCs should have also ended up alone then cause won't that diminish their character? The point here is this concept is not really something new that few peeps think it is.