Incompetent Storytelling from the Start

Tikky January 18, 2024 11:50 am

Here I was, happy to see a story I hadn't heard of yet with so many chapters in the hole. And it was a topic I thought I would like, so I was hyped to see what it would do.
And it did do a lot. Right from chapter one. And then chapter two - oh boy. I think I did this to myself for four chapters.
Maybe it's not entirely classifiable as "Incompetent Storytelling", depending on what the author was going for, but it sure did the tell on the "father". I mean, yes, he said that he couldn't stand her existence, but something tells me this isn't a story that aims for the protagonist to train in order to get revenge on her father for all the shit he put her through.

On a transmigration story I'm currently writing, in which the protagonist takes over a body with a somewhat broken family, I had a reader demand that the father and brothers would basically beg for her forgiveness, even though it was made clear from the beginning that it was her who had pushed everyone away until they were scarred from trying and kept their distance. I have also read hundreds of stories with neglective or all around shitty parents that got their redemption with the mostly female MCs. Even if the MC got into trouble due to being abandoned, it was usually because of circumstances nobody could foresee.
But here? What would it need to redeem a scumbag that would take a child he knew is his own, take their powers - as the black hair would make me assume - and send them off not only to a human city, but an entirely different world, naked, through the cold sea water, to end up stranded on a beach? Or did he, somehow, control her fate to have her found on time? Bitch, she would have died, had they found her half an hour later. And the storytelling didn't even make it clear how long she had been there, but it's a fucking newborn baby, she shouldn't even survive for more than half an hour under those conditions.
So, after willingly leaving her to die in another world, he opens and reads a letter that was lying around on the table for 17 years, kindly remembers that he even had a daughter and then, villy-nilly, simply decided to pull her out of the happy family she had, as he could apparently see through some unexplained visual powers (and I mean unexplained as in: why the fuck can a random ass spirit, even if he's a king, from one world send someone to another, watch them there and bring them back whenever he wants without breaking a damn sweat about it?).
On top of that, one of the first things he does is insult her and then he not just threatens to, but actively tries to murder her. He hates her. He doesn't want her. So what if you "just" read that you were actually supposed to give a crap about the child your woman died to give birth to? She probably didn't ask you to make hell out of her life.
And yes, if that isn't what she will go through, then it's already incompetent writing. The storytelling was already shit. Like, we were shown her otherworldly family, even heard their names and were supposed to get to know them, yet we didn't get the chance to actually SEE them interact in a more meaningful way. We know she's into swimming, but we don't know if she ever displayed superpowers, so we must assume she has none. There was no comment like "it must be your compatibility with water that lend you strength to survive back then" or how she could maybe hold her breath for a while - which she can't do, as we know, because she instantly would have drowned after being pulled down by the Spirit Douche, at least until her hair turned back to blue. In other words, they spent precious panels on showing a family, but told the story anyway without needing that extra space, because it didn't "show" anything actually useful.
Anyway, at least we gathered that she loved her family. Even the fucking Titan's Bride had the decency to make a great point out of the fact that the MC may not have had parents anymore, yet he had friends he loved and had to leave behind, and his world, which was entirely different from the Titan Husband's, was something he would miss.
So, to sum it up, he literally kidnapped her from her world. As nothing had happened in his own world after sending her over, as of now, there's no reason for me to believe her family would simply forget about her after she left the world. So the family would be devastated as well. If that changes in the future, point taken, though it would over stretch my already expanded suspension of disbelief, but it would make him a piece of shit still, because it's her family. He isn't. He doesn't want to be.
Why do you think you have to care now?
And as for the "mother"... No child asks to be born. Blaming the child is already an infantile move on the oh-so-great father's part, but taking someone's essence to have a child, knowing it would kill you and leave that child to the unwitting "partner", is an equally infantile and shitty behavior. Imagine someone took your semen off a condom to try and get pregnant if any of the swimmers survived the culling from the stuff on the latex. Would you think that's okay? I think that counts as a form of abuse, to be honest (like, I'm not joking, and I think it's illegal as well).
Then knowing you won't live to see the face of the child, yet totally feeling great about your deed, thinking the guy will take care of the brat he never asked to have. Shouldn't she know him best if she loved him so much she had to have this child with him? How come she never caught his childish, willful, and overall egotistical personality? The amount of stupidity in those two people is immeasurable.
And the victim of each and every step taken is, of course, our MC. After being kidnapped, she would be traumatized. Finding out who her father is and how she was conceived would instill hatred in her. She would start cursing both her parents, who could do nothing to right those wrongs, except for sending her back to live the life she had lived in peace for 17 years prior to all of this bullshit being unloaded on her. The father has every right to regret this for the rest of his sorry excuse of an existence.
In the end, both parents are the sort of selfish people that you wouldn't feel well about having a child at all. They love the idea of having a child, but can't think about the care that has to go into it. Like the mother creating the child, knowing she would leave it to a father who didn't even know the child existed or the father who would first throw the child away and then take it back even through he can't show it any positive feelings.
Did I sum that up well? In case that's not what's going to happen, this story already sucks ass.

And as for the mother, "looking down from heaven": Sweetie, if there is a concept like that in your world, you sure aren't going to heaven after that stunt you pulled. No matter the reason, that's a contract with a demon. You're tainted now.
Rest well in hell.

Responses
    BrutallyHon3st February 6, 2024 2:01 pm
    Icl and on a manga site of all places ☠ Bro must be going through it kubzs

    Frrr

    Tikky February 6, 2024 2:52 pm

    And I'm just here wondering if you have no life. I check back what's happening by now every few hours when I'm here anyway, but you guys seriously bloated the thread.
    I'm somewhat in awe. And I won't read all of that either... But mostly because it's all the same brainless "lol, why so aggressive", "we are just really funny (but where's the joke?)", so there's no value to it. Still: I'm in awe.

    DARLING CLEMENTINE February 6, 2024 6:33 pm
    You think it's not obvious that you were trying to provoke in the first place...? Who else would leave a comment on a thread they have nothing to say about, because they didn't read it, just to remark that you ... Tikky

    Look most of the time when people see comments or write them in general no one expects it to be as long as yours was. No one was trying to insult you. Or at least I wasn't. Now if you were insulted or bothered by it I can understand but everyone was just stating their opinion on your comment. There was no need to fight in the comments.

    Tikky February 6, 2024 8:51 pm
    Look most of the time when people see comments or write them in general no one expects it to be as long as yours was. No one was trying to insult you. Or at least I wasn't. Now if you were insulted or bothered ... DARLING CLEMENTINE

    I find people who would say they can't stand something but bring in no reason for it to be the most worthless among commenting readers, be it as a fellow reader or an author. It's just useless to not actually make a point, give examples and come to a conclusion, which won't happen within three sentences. Obviously, it would be long.
    Anyway, there's that.
    Initially, I didn't actually think I would say another word, but I found your comment to be interesting. I wasn't fighting at all? I don't see this as a fight, even if I'm saying it sounds dumb. Because it genuinely does - you see a comment with more than three lines and make a comment to say that you can't actually contribute to the conversation because you have no idea what it is about. Something that is of no interest to the person you are replying to, which is why it is commonly used to try and provoke reactions.
    Now, since I'm a girl who always has the last word (if I have the time for it, at least), I enjoy shit like that, so I answer. But my answer was pretty tame, yet you call it a fight. Which is funny, because if you look at that gaggle of clowns trying to bark up the wrong tree, I don't think animosity and aggression are coming from my side. Just because they add funny smileys, I don't think anyone would lack the comprehensive power to deduce they aren't trying to be friendly.
    Though I am positively sure they are indeed thinking themselves funny "frrr". I still have no clue where the joke is, though.
    But nevertheless, for every answer I gave, I got two to three notifications about others answering, which makes it more obvious who wants to have a fight. But anyway, I'm currently contemplating to send a private message with the original comment to every person who comments in order to tell me they didn't read the comment, so they would get their justification for feeling obliged to reply.

    BrutallyHon3st February 6, 2024 11:11 pm
    I find people who would say they can't stand something but bring in no reason for it to be the most worthless among commenting readers, be it as a fellow reader or an author. It's just useless to not actually m... Tikky

    Idk, maybe you just don't understand jokes. There r ppl who laugh at my joke. Did bro have a bad day to get mad at us like this lol

    BrutallyHon3st February 6, 2024 11:13 pm

    I'm just gonna keep replying ur comments lol. Its fun to see you get so worked up writing novels and i didn't read it. See? I'm ignorance and proud to be in times like this.

    BrutallyHon3st February 6, 2024 11:14 pm
    I find people who would say they can't stand something but bring in no reason for it to be the most worthless among commenting readers, be it as a fellow reader or an author. It's just useless to not actually m... Tikky

    Honestly, i can see ur mbti with this comment- heleppppp
    Soooo right, we can't say whats on our mind huh? Too bad

    Hachi ^-^ February 7, 2024 7:05 am

    was going to give it a shot...but after reading your post I'm not sure I want to start reading a manga that has alteady 100+ chapters if the plot is already soo flawed

    kubzs February 7, 2024 11:40 am
    I'm just gonna keep replying ur comments lol. Its fun to see you get so worked up writing novels and i didn't read it. See? I'm ignorance and proud to be in times like this. BrutallyHon3st

    Nah bro literally I’m dying at their comments they’re talking abt how we don’t have lives for checking every hr for comments meanwhile they’re going out of their way to write English novels abt how hurt they are funniest shit I’ve seen on this website I’m literally sobbing on this train rn

    BrutallyHon3st February 7, 2024 12:34 pm
    Nah bro literally I’m dying at their comments they’re talking abt how we don’t have lives for checking every hr for comments meanwhile they’re going out of their way to write English novels abt how hur... kubzs

    BWHAHHAHAHAHHHH- ikr- their hands probs so tired writing all replies for us

    Yumaru February 7, 2024 5:24 pm
    You think it's not obvious that you were trying to provoke in the first place...? Who else would leave a comment on a thread they have nothing to say about, because they didn't read it, just to remark that you ... Tikky

    Bro really mentioned IQ as if they're Albert fucking Einstein stg The only silly thing here is you bro is a snowflake not being able to take a literal reply instead bro took it to heart

    Yumaru February 7, 2024 5:25 pm
    I hope the novels i have at home doesn't make me faint too BrutallyHon3st

    nah cuz this n the other replies r funny af

    Yumaru February 7, 2024 5:26 pm
    And I'm just here wondering if you have no life. I check back what's happening by now every few hours when I'm here anyway, but you guys seriously bloated the thread.I'm somewhat in awe. And I won't read all of... Tikky

    so bro gets mad at others for not reading then proceeds to do the exact same thing??? tf is u on abt what and tbh it's crazy u responded to harmless replies to ur com in the first place tbh

    Yumaru February 7, 2024 5:32 pm
    I find people who would say they can't stand something but bring in no reason for it to be the most worthless among commenting readers, be it as a fellow reader or an author. It's just useless to not actually m... Tikky

    Not only did bro write ANOTHER novel length comment smh but bro also tried sounded smarter by using big words like as if we don't understand u and it's not dumb to have an opinion lmao ur js the one who got pressed

    Yumaru February 7, 2024 5:34 pm
    Nah bro literally I’m dying at their comments they’re talking abt how we don’t have lives for checking every hr for comments meanwhile they’re going out of their way to write English novels abt how hur... kubzs

    nah cuz ur so right like why is this deadass taking up 2 whole pages of replies I'm js checking when I see my manhwa updates n I see there's a million extra replies added like fr that's actually crazy n funny af

    Tikky February 7, 2024 10:38 pm
    nah cuz ur so right like why is this deadass taking up 2 whole pages of replies I'm js checking when I see my manhwa updates n I see there's a million extra replies added like fr that's actually crazy n funny... Yumaru

    Yeah, as I was saying. 44 replies? You realize, that's not mine, right? I'm in awe still.
    But I'm not gonna read the rest, because it starts degrading my braincells to follow this clownish, well, "conversation".
    Btw every answer of mine was about 300 words at max, I would assume. Takes about 3 minutes to write. You're literally saying it's so much, nobody could either right or read that. It's seriously concerning, to be honest. Maybe that's why you can't write in a way that people can understand it? I mean, I'm not proofreading the shit I'm putting out right now because I'm just typing and sending, but even I don't produce an error rate of 300 % per sentence. It looks like you ate a dictionary and then threw it up. :'D
    But yeah, after that I'm off to do whatever and check back 12 to 24 hours later to find x amount of answers trying to pretend I'm somewhat worked up and aggressive, while every answer is aggressively trying to be provocative. I'm guessing you are about 15 years of age? Anyway, enough internet for today, mate.

    Tikky February 7, 2024 10:43 pm
    was going to give it a shot...but after reading your post I'm not sure I want to start reading a manga that has alteady 100+ chapters if the plot is already soo flawed Hachi ^-^

    The problem I saw was the fact that this is a vital flaw that drags down the premise. It's a storywriting domino-effect - one fuck up will lead to another, and then another... Because everything will start off on this botched premise of how she was conceived, by whom and what happened after that.
    You just can't erase it. But I guess you will have to read for yourself to see if the problem is vital to your experience as well. :/

    Yumaru February 8, 2024 2:13 am
    Yeah, as I was saying. 44 replies? You realize, that's not mine, right? I'm in awe still.But I'm not gonna read the rest, because it starts degrading my braincells to follow this clownish, well, "conversation".... Tikky

    Why r u still acting like ur sum fucking genius bro what dope r u on rn do u got sum sorta superiority complex thinking ur above everyone else js bcs of how they type like r u a narcissistic pos that can't take a simple OPINION???? n btw if u aren't proofreading ur own shit I suggest u do cuz maybe then you'd realize how defensive u sound rn n my age (which u got wrong btw) ain't got nun to do w this like if u got anger issues to the point u gotta comment on sum reply talking abt ur novel length com (cuz coms ain't ever meant to be THAT long) then that's showing sum issues n u might wanna check that out. I don't needa be talkin like sum college professor all the damn time I only do that when I need to n talking like this is js much quicker tbh it ain't my fault if u can't understand it

    Tikky February 8, 2024 6:51 am
    Why r u still acting like ur sum fucking genius bro what dope r u on rn do u got sum sorta superiority complex thinking ur above everyone else js bcs of how they type like r u a narcissistic pos that can't take... Yumaru

    The thing that I find the most intriguing about this is the fact that you believe there was an opinion I had a problem with. The problem I had was that you felt the need to tell me that you had no opinion, because you didn't read the post. Unlike you, who replied to me personally, thus asking me to see your message and reply, my post was put out like any other, so you could have scrolled past it, yet you didn't. Now you pretend it's weird and funny that I keep replying, while obviously triggered by your standard kindergarten level grammar being called out. I sure hope you're not a native speaker though.
    Also... you realize it's me who won't stop until I get bored, right? As I said: I'm a girl that likes to have the last word (as long as I remain interested and have three to five minutes to spare.)

    While on the topic of replies: What, pray tell, was I originally supposed to say to your comment anyway? :'D
    "Ah, right, move on then"? I know your type of person, as I said, and I tried all kinds of things to see if there is one person of that type that actually is just a little dorky and thinks they needed to answer something. But all of them were like you, taking whatever answer and pretending it was hostile. Of course, now I'm just saying whatever. But yeah, it remains funny as fuck that it's always those that are likely children. And children act like this because their brains aren't developed. In other words... Too dumb to know better.

    kubzs February 8, 2024 7:43 am
    The thing that I find the most intriguing about this is the fact that you believe there was an opinion I had a problem with. The problem I had was that you felt the need to tell me that you had no opinion, beca... Tikky

    Is anybody still reading these anymore cause i swear down it's just a bunch of yap