Jesus Christ, I finally had a not stereotypical omegaverse, an αxβ moreover but then "I ...

bbice January 12, 2024 1:22 am

Jesus Christ, I finally had a not stereotypical omegaverse, an αxβ moreover but then "I TOOK CARE OF HIM SINCE HE WAS A KID"????? broooo no, this can't work, dropping. I like the age gape but I thought it wasn't that big but the α raised the β?? No, they need to stop doing story like this, it's not okay. Dropping. Σ(っ°Д °;)っ

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    bbice January 12, 2024 1:43 am

    If someone try to defend it or saying 'its not that bad', then you're legitimating grooming.

    dudewhatlmao January 12, 2024 10:00 am
    If someone try to defend it or saying 'its not that bad', then you're legitimating grooming. bbice

    you don't know the definition of grooming lmao

    bbice January 12, 2024 1:55 pm
    you don't know the definition of grooming lmao dudewhatlmao

    I don't? Raising someone and then having sex with them as they grow up is grooming, in a predatory act. Stories like this are wrong on so many levels.

    LelooChan January 12, 2024 2:49 pm
    I don't? Raising someone and then having sex with them as they grow up is grooming, in a predatory act. Stories like this are wrong on so many levels. bbice

    We still don't know the full story don't rush it out

    dudewhatlmao January 12, 2024 3:35 pm
    I don't? Raising someone and then having sex with them as they grow up is grooming, in a predatory act. Stories like this are wrong on so many levels. bbice

    no dawg grooming is the deliberate, often sustained process of an adult priming a minor for sex. it's often planned from the start, with the adult gaining the minor's trust only for the end goal of taking advantage of it. where is literally any of that in this story??

    here, the caretaker is completely oblivious to his charge's affection and does nothing to encourage it, dude even has his own romantic/sexual partner already. so, any change in their relationship would have to be initiated by the charge (who is definitely not a minor) completely out of his own volition. any imbalance in power would show if the caretaker is using his authority/physical strength/designation as an alpha/etc to coerce his charge into having sex with him, but what we're probably gonna see instead is the charge having to convince or coercing his caretaker into having sex with him.

    this trope plays into subversion of expectations (the "less powerful" taking initiative/control over the "more powerful"), not an endorsement of grooming lmao.

    GentleRain January 12, 2024 5:48 pm

    Agreed, i tried to push through it but nah, i just cant. It makes me so SO incredibly uncomfortable, i just cant even deal with it lol. I cant even try to reason with the characters when they've taken care of them since they were younger, it crosses a boundary that i just can’t rationalise lmao.

    It’s a shame as the art is so pretty, but I'm tired of these problematic relationships that i just cannot in good conscience, root for at all.

    My ideal outcome would be the younger one being able to move on but from the summary ik that isn't the case. These kinds of plots to me feel like psychological horror ngl lol

    bbice January 12, 2024 10:57 pm
    We still don't know the full story don't rush it out LelooChan

    I'm not rushing things, a grown man having sex and being together with the guy he raised since he was a kid it's disgusting

    bbice January 12, 2024 11:03 pm
    no dawg grooming is the deliberate, often sustained process of an adult priming a minor for sex. it's often planned from the start, with the adult gaining the minor's trust only for the end goal of taking advan... dudewhatlmao

    it's still wrong, even if I got wrong the definition what happens here or is going to happen it's still wrong, if the beta confess his feelings and the alpha accept them it's still completely wrong, how can he stay with the guy he raised, it doesn't matter if he's not a minor now, he knew him since he was a kid , it's disgusting. If the alpha doesn't accept his feelings and the beta coerce him in to sex or forces him it's rape, it's completely wrong. Can we stop normalise this kind of plot??? I'm tired of it

    bbice January 12, 2024 11:06 pm
    Agreed, i tried to push through it but nah, i just cant. It makes me so SO incredibly uncomfortable, i just cant even deal with it lol. I cant even try to reason with the characters when they've taken care of t... GentleRain

    Omg thank you for being here since I'm being attached for speaking the truth?? The Asian BL fandom needs to stop accept this kind of relationship. A lot of bl are full of rape, grooming, abnormal age gap and other problematic things. I don't understand how people read them and are like 'omg I hope they'll be together ''

    dudewhatlmao January 12, 2024 11:34 pm
    Omg thank you for being here since I'm being attached for speaking the truth?? The Asian BL fandom needs to stop accept this kind of relationship. A lot of bl are full of rape, grooming, abnormal age gap and ot... bbice

    welp the moment you use "the asian bl fandom is bad for 'allowing' immoral content" is the moment i know you weird as hell. this sort of content is EVERYWHERE. you may not see it in western bl bc that genre isn't as prevalent, but you will see it in fan creation, eroticas, any book that addresses and dissects difficult/taboo issues. don't like it? don't read. i can't emphasize enough how there are plenty of non-problematic bl and that you have to curate your own online experience, rather than act moralistic by dunking on an entire genre. have a nice day

    dudewhatlmao January 12, 2024 11:50 pm
    it's still wrong, even if I got wrong the definition what happens here or is going to happen it's still wrong, if the beta confess his feelings and the alpha accept them it's still completely wrong, how can he ... bbice

    1) don't make it so the first rebuttal to your argument is a correction. 2) real life is NUANCED. there are many relationships that seem weird at first glance but will make sense once you actually take the time to understand them. same goes with fiction. 3) i used the word 'probably', meaning even i don't know for sure how the author will tackle this relationship. maybe this will be a character study, where the issue of raising the charge will be thoroughly dissected. maybe not! maybe it will just indulge in fantasies that
    the author would hate in a realistic setting. who fucking knows. but at least i'm willing to give this a chance rather than throwing out the word 'bad' willy nilly, and if i see some shit i don't like (god there are so many tropes i don't like), i just move on quietly instead of calling anything i don't like 'problematic'. have a blessed day

    bbice January 13, 2024 12:53 am
    welp the moment you use "the asian bl fandom is bad for 'allowing' immoral content" is the moment i know you weird as hell. this sort of content is EVERYWHERE. you may not see it in western bl bc that genre isn... dudewhatlmao

    I used "Asian bl" because is a fact that in the Asian bl industry is really common to see relationships when one rape/manipulate/abuse the other. 80% of the stories have rape or better, forced sexual acts that no one care to address as what they are aka rape, abuse. I'm not just saying it out of nowhere. It's an actual thing. It's everywhere but it's more frequent in those story.

    bbice January 13, 2024 12:57 am
    1) don't make it so the first rebuttal to your argument is a correction. 2) real life is NUANCED. there are many relationships that seem weird at first glance but will make sense once you actually take the time... dudewhatlmao

    stop lying to yourself, we all know how this kind of stories go. it's not the first one with this trope and it won't be the last. It's clearly romanticising this kind of trope. And I'm not calling anything I don't like problematic. An adult staying with someone they knew since this someone was a kid, is problematic, it's like this. Stop. It's not me not liking it it's the thing being wrong.

    dulcedays January 13, 2024 1:22 am
    no dawg grooming is the deliberate, often sustained process of an adult priming a minor for sex. it's often planned from the start, with the adult gaining the minor's trust only for the end goal of taking advan... dudewhatlmao

    exactly THANK YOU i know i shouldn't expect critical thinking on here but it still pisses me off when ppl have no clue about what they're performing moral righteousness over. obviously we're going to see guilt/conflicted feelings play out in this manga bc of this particular dynamic but that's what is going to make it an interesting story not some "endorsement of grooming" my god

    Tammicita January 13, 2024 4:56 pm
    If someone try to defend it or saying 'its not that bad', then you're legitimating grooming. bbice

    How is it grooming!? the blond has no sexual feelings for the seme. It is the seme who sees the blond that way. He has done absolutely nothing inappropriate. Has done nothing to prepare the seme to be in a relationship with him. The seme started feeling that way on his own. The fact that he has a lover and the seme has met him, proves that he is not grooming him.

    Tammicita January 13, 2024 5:03 pm
    no dawg grooming is the deliberate, often sustained process of an adult priming a minor for sex. it's often planned from the start, with the adult gaining the minor's trust only for the end goal of taking advan... dudewhatlmao

    I agree! Honestly, I feel like there are a bunch of super young people on this site who just like to sound woke or PC and go around labeling EVERYTHING rape, abuse, grooming. And the sad part is, they have very little life experience, which means they literally have no idea what they are talking about. Sure, rape, abuse and grooming are prevalent in porn (all porn, not just yaoi), but not everything IS rape or grooming but they are incapable of telling the difference.

    Tammicita January 13, 2024 5:06 pm
    no dawg grooming is the deliberate, often sustained process of an adult priming a minor for sex. it's often planned from the start, with the adult gaining the minor's trust only for the end goal of taking advan... dudewhatlmao

    I agree! Honestly, I feel like there are a bunch of super young people on this site who just like to sound woke or PC and go around labeling EVERYTHING rape, abuse, grooming. And the sad part is, they have very little life experience, which means they literally have no idea what they are talking about. Sure, rape, abuse and grooming are prevalent in porn (all porn, not just yaoi), but not everything IS rape or grooming but they are incapable of telling the difference.

    bbice January 13, 2024 6:08 pm
    I agree! Honestly, I feel like there are a bunch of super young people on this site who just like to sound woke or PC and go around labeling EVERYTHING rape, abuse, grooming. And the sad part is, they have very... Tammicita

    I can bet I'm older than you and bold to assume my life experiences but okay

    Tammicita January 13, 2024 6:19 pm
    I can bet I'm older than you and bold to assume my life experiences but okay bbice

    Oh, yeah? You are older than 43? I doubt it.