I wish we could be more like the asian fujoshis to be honest. They don't need a thousand d...

Yeah I definitely still think like that now since none of this is real and I’m just here to enjoy a story, no matter what happens in the end. It sucks how times have changed for the western side, but the eastern (Asians) still remain the same

This is what we call "pro-shipper," meaning we can ship anything we want as long as it's 2D

I'm glad the eastern side is having fun, I saw some nasty stuff in Twitter when some asian artists were being harassed by mostly western antis and the asian artists were so SHOCKED to have to explain to people that it's not real and that liking it in fiction doesn't make you an immoral person. Let's do our best to have fun and stay safe! (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

Yes! I'm just sad that we need a word for it now when it used to be the normal thing to do ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Definitely agree with you. In my early fandom days the line between fact and fiction was just self-explanatory. No one needed to make a disclaimer because the default is obviously "don't confuse fiction and reality". I'm a bit worried about younger people in fandom feeling unreasonably bad about enjoying things because it's something that would be somewhat negative in reality. I really don't mind whatever development the author decides on, but I wonder how younger readers feel. Ofc "Don't like, don't read" is still practiced to this day, but I can't help but think that people tend to get worked up over the things they dislike so much more now. When I don't like something about a fictional story I gloss over it if the work is otherwise nice, or I just don't read it and forget about it, but I've seen many on social media wasting their energy on complaining. Idk, it's weird and concerning but also fascinating.

I've been a bl fan for 8 years too, but please, stop acting like people are sensitve or something for hating the fan service, as it is weird. Fiction affect reality and even if it didn't affect you, or me, it can affect other people, especially if they already have thoughs of incest (intrusive thoughs). Personally I don't really care about the fanservice (as it's obviously one sided & i read way worse shit) but people who are uncomfortable and complain about it are more than valid & actually give some awareness to people.
(This isn't meant to be hate!!)

I completely agree with you! People tend to make what you ship into your whole morality and confuse fiction and reality and it's very worrying. They spend so much time hating on things they don't like instead of enjoying what they like. I kinda blame this on yaoi/ships/fandom having become so much more mainstream and it pains me to say that cause I'm so happy that we have all this stuff compared to the early fandom days but if I had know what it would bring with it...I would have been happy with my niche yaoi stuff. I also agree with you about the fascinating part, in kind of a morbid way cause you see them destroying themselves over lines on a screen and FAKE stuff and the saying "touch some grass" never made so much sense.

Don't worry, I haven't received it as hate at all but what you're saying is, to me, VERY worrying. When you talk about people with intrusive thoughts being affected by taboo content, I feel like you're entirely missing the point. Those people don't have a "healthy" brain to begin with. They need therapy and professionnal help, they don't need censorship. Seeing incest doesn't make you have incestuous thoughts if you don't have any past trauma or mental disorder to begin with.

A healthy brain by definition is able to differentiate between fiction and reality. I won't say that fiction doesn't ENTIRELY affect reality cause it certainly can affect our emotions but someone mature can decide to NOT READ something that makes them uncomfortable (and mature people are the target audience for yaoï, I feel like too many people forget that yaoï is by definition EXPLICIT. Shonen-aï is the soft sexless version of it).

Like I said in my original message, if people are uncomfortable, they're completely valid and should immediately remove themselves from what's causing them harm. But they do not get to decide and dictate what all of us are feeling about it. And if we like seeing Big Potato in love with Papa Wolf, it does not make us bad people just because some people are uncomfortable with it.

I do think that all of this would not have happened if the manga had had additional tags to warn people about what's in the fanservice. But what I'm seeing is people knowing the fanservice could happen and instead of not reading the manga anymore, they try to make other people feel bad or guilty and they keep exposing themselves to it even though it's harmful to them. That's the problem in today's fandoms: people need to learn to stop seeking what they hate. You would never see me seeking scat manga but I would never advocate for scat manga to be banned.

Sorry for my harsh tone in this message but I'm an old grandma now in fandom age and now that we have so much more content in all the flavors imaginable and with so many ways to avoid what we hate, I just feel so bitter when I see people wanting to bring the dark ages back. Take care!