I'm so tired of the moral dilemma brought to a piece of fiction

AWinterWonderLand December 19, 2023 6:49 pm

Just wanna enjoy the Manwha without all this r**e discussion...is it really too much to ask...???...

Responses
    Salvation December 19, 2023 6:52 pm

    yes actually

    Kriss December 19, 2023 7:26 pm

    Lol No one is forcing you to read the comments. If you want an echo chamber, make your own personal discord dedicated to the series, and invite like-minded people. Problem solved.

    AWinterWonderLand December 19, 2023 8:59 pm
    yes actually Salvation

    Why??? The purpose is to enjoy the story, not to keep harping in the one point. I don't understand what you understand about reading a story. I mean. A story is 1% rape and 99% story. So why are you focusing on that 1%?!?

    AWinterWonderLand December 19, 2023 9:00 pm
    Lol No one is forcing you to read the comments. If you want an echo chamber, make your own personal discord dedicated to the series, and invite like-minded people. Problem solved. Kriss

    Why?!? I was enjoying the discussion, with like-minded people on here. Why would I go make an echo chamber??? I have a free voice as everyone else too. What's your point???

    thisislele December 19, 2023 9:04 pm

    this is so funny coming from the person writing essays about how the rapist is “not that bad” and saying the omega deserved it bc he went there to see him.

    AWinterWonderLand December 19, 2023 9:08 pm
    this is so funny coming from the person writing essays about how the rapist is “not that bad” and saying the omega deserved it bc he went there to see him. thisislele

    Didn't say he deserved it, but that he had been a fool to show up unannounced after the breakup. And they hadn't talked nor had plans to meet up. They had not communicated at any point other than the texts he had sent him, but if which Ian had not read. The encounter was much unexpected. And yes, he was a fool to go see Ian. Even if Ian had not been in rut they would have just a super awkward conversation.

    Anyways you didn't get my point about the essays. Don't know if you have even bothered to read them. Don't really care anymore at this point.

    AWinterWonderLand December 19, 2023 9:10 pm
    this is so funny coming from the person writing essays about how the rapist is “not that bad” and saying the omega deserved it bc he went there to see him. thisislele

    Again, this moral policing. What a headache. Go make your own point elsewhere.

    I'm just gonna analyze the chapter how I see fit.

    thisislele December 19, 2023 9:14 pm
    Didn't say he deserved it, but that he had been a fool to show up unannounced after the breakup. And they hadn't talked nor had plans to meet up. They had not communicated at any point other than the texts he h... AWinterWonderLand

    no who tf is going to read all your 3000 word essays on something so simple? they’re unnecessary

    thisislele December 19, 2023 9:16 pm
    Again, this moral policing. What a headache. Go make your own point elsewhere. I'm just gonna analyze the chapter how I see fit. AWinterWonderLand

    moral policing lol. people are just telling you that you’re victim blaming and that the alpha is a rapist? you can write essays but people can’t respond to them? you’re a funny person

    Kriss December 19, 2023 10:00 pm
    Why?!? I was enjoying the discussion, with like-minded people on here. Why would I go make an echo chamber??? I have a free voice as everyone else too. What's your point??? AWinterWonderLand

    Well, if you’re enjoying discussing the series on here with “like-minded people,” why tf are you complaining about the commenters who are discussing the uke’s rape/rapist??? What’s YOUR fucking point?

    Salvation December 20, 2023 2:44 am
    Why??? The purpose is to enjoy the story, not to keep harping in the one point. I don't understand what you understand about reading a story. I mean. A story is 1% rape and 99% story. So why are you focusing on... AWinterWonderLand

    Rape is rape babe u really dont think we gonna read rape and be like "oh ok but the story is nice" bfrrr

    AWinterWonderLand December 20, 2023 6:10 am
    no who tf is going to read all your 3000 word essays on something so simple? they’re unnecessary thisislele

    Oh good. And yet you want to point out everything I did "wrong". If you don't read it, then there's no point in debating it with you. I've said from the get go, ever since my post of the analysis of this webcomic back then up to ch. 7 that I will ONLY be discussing the finer points of the comic NOT including the rape fantasy. I'm so done with this. If you don't read it then why are we even having this discussion?!? Everything is covered in there. Why is it unnecessary when it literally include all points to discussed in there. If you don't read it. Why are we even having this convo?!? Convo over. I don't give two shits about ppl think anymore. So shush

    AWinterWonderLand December 20, 2023 6:17 am
    moral policing lol. people are just telling you that you’re victim blaming and that the alpha is a rapist? you can write essays but people can’t respond to them? you’re a funny person thisislele

    EXACTLY the kind of moral policing I'm talking about?!? Funny. Right. This is the EXACT thing I was talking about. You ppl are DOING the moral policing and not even knowing it and yet you said I'm defending the "rapist" in an literal rape fantasy webcomic and that I'm victim blaming. Noah is a shit character, made weak and presented as weak and clueless in a world full of alphas and omegas. Take your moral policing elsewhere. I'm done defending myself against bullshit and ppl with MORAL HIGH GROUNDS in a fictitious fantasy Webtoon. Get OVER yourselves. Just here to enjoy my comic, not to get all riled up about some "moral compass failings" in a fantasy webcomic about ppl who literally acts as animals and where men can get pregnant. Go preach to the characters themselves.

    AWinterWonderLand December 20, 2023 6:26 am
    Well, if you’re enjoying discussing the series on here with “like-minded people,” why tf are you complaining about the commenters who are discussing the uke’s rape/rapist??? What’s YOUR fucking point? Kriss

    My point is EXACTLY what you have said, ppl are allowed to express their opinions. So my opinion is that ppl should shut up about the rape because yes this is literally a fantasy about rape. I don't need to defend my position anymore.

    I can EXACTLY express my OWN opinion about how ppl should shut up about the rape because THEY also have right to express THEIR opinion about the rape. It's just so ...

    I didn't go into everyone's page and talk about the rape. I wanted to have a discussions on plots points OTHER than the rape. However I've finally realized that NO MATTER WHICH point in the story in the story the rape topic kept coming up so then it defeats my purpose of even trying to debate this story with ppl who are so hellbent about making the story all about rape and how it is WRONG. Blah blah blah blah. I didn't come to this story to discuss about that. And I've already cleared that up in my other posts. These are my opinion. It clearly didn't say I'm going to shut you up. But if by logic you're tryiny to shut up other ppl because you feel this comic is morally wrong. Good for you. And when I complain against that you say then you say why am I complaining about that?!? Just EXACTLY what I have said. End of discussion.

    thisislele December 20, 2023 7:37 am
    EXACTLY the kind of moral policing I'm talking about?!? Funny. Right. This is the EXACT thing I was talking about. You ppl are DOING the moral policing and not even knowing it and yet you said I'm defending the... AWinterWonderLand

    no way you called this a rape fantasy webcomic LOL. ive seen rape fantasy webcomics and this is not one of them. and noah isnt a weak character either and also not naive just bc he made one bad decision? maybe if you weren’t writing stupid victim blaming bullshit people wouldnt be annoying you so much. i thought you had critical thinking skills?

    AWinterWonderLand December 20, 2023 9:17 am
    no way you called this a rape fantasy webcomic LOL. ive seen rape fantasy webcomics and this is not one of them. and noah isnt a weak character either and also not naive just bc he made one bad decision? maybe ... thisislele

    Oh right. Let me Throw this back Right In Your face. Go read something else if you don't like my running commentary. Whatever your perception of r**e comics are is None-of-my-concern. Like I said, I'm not here to the discus the ***e story. I am here to discuss the finer points of the story. *Not sure* why this has to be reiterated time and time again. Right, it's YOUR perception of what is right or wrong. I'm sorry if you and everyone else who are moral policing other ppl's reading fantasies DON'T FEEL the SAME way. I give TWO SHITS about your definitions of what's right and wrong, and what is considered so "wrong" because you don't perceive it as **** fantasy. That's on you. I really don't care. Define it what you will. However you will.

    AGAIN, I am here NOT to talk about it. So WHAT is it that you don't understand about my NOT WANTING to talk about that - what is it that you are TRYING so hard to accomplish that you keep bringing it up?!? I SPECIFICALLY STATED in my posts that I am HERE ONLY to discuss PLOT POINTS NOT related to the rape. I don't like talking about it and if you're gonna have a discourse with me on it, I'm not having it. And if you agree to my discourse then stay on the topics at hand. Otherwise, I have NOTHING ELSE to say to you or anyone else who keeps on wanting to broach this subject with me. END of discussion.

    And guess what, if these so-called "ppl" are SOOo annoyed with my discourse then don't read it. The reverse is true for me. Discussing ___ EXACTLY what I've posted in my header___ giving me your morals values and what not ___ keep it to yourselves. And stay on MY TOPIC. The SAME EXACT REASONING about how I irk someone with my writing is the EXACT reason why I find it bothersome that ppl would harp on the exact thing I deem irrelevant to the story as a whole and that is ALL they would talk about. Whatever. Idc anymore. The same reasoning that irks me is the same as yours and everyone else's : that if (you or I) hadn't written what (you or I) had written then the opposite party (the "they") would not have been so "OFFENDED" as to "come attack (you or I)" when I have LITERALLY posted in my header that I'm NOT talking about it?!? Why there are ppl who likes to preach about the morality of things on a site full of adult-mature themes is beyond me, and yet is irked by my posting, because it doesn't AGREE with their values from the real world, saying that I shouldn't have written these because it irks them?!? Well, the logic goes BOTH ways, the exact same thing that you (guys) wrote irks me. So maybe YOU should stop writing them because it irks ME?!? Imploring a group of ppl full of moral high grounds, who likes to preach about morals on a website full of explicit materials, to talk about something ELSE, to think deeper and outside of the box, apparently isn't cutting it, because at the end of the day, that's all they can see, so it's worthless of my time now. If you tell me to stop writing things that irks you, well, you should do the same, stop writing things that irks me. Goes BOTH ways, don't you think?!?

    The EXACT same fucking reasoning can be applied for to you (and other people). Stop writing and posting shit that annoys ME. Yes, me. It's NOT ALL ABOUT YOU, you know??? Again, this is fantasy and fiction. If you don't like it, go read something else. I'm just here to enjoy the comic. Not to hear about everyone crying about rape and how it's wrong. If a normal person doesn't even know it's wrong then they have problems.

    ALL works of fiction is fantasy. Define it how you will. I give two fucks about your reasoning an logic.

    Salvation December 20, 2023 10:31 am
    Oh right. Let me Throw this back Right In Your face. Go read something else if you don't like my running commentary. Whatever your perception of r**e comics are is None-of-my-concern. Like I said, I'm not here ... AWinterWonderLand

    you really think anyone read your essay, basically u are saying rape is not wrong and you were the one in the first place being bothered by other comments, u sound really immature idk u would probably also justify shotacon saying its fantasy, please seek help

    AWinterWonderLand December 20, 2023 10:52 am

    Oh wow, @salvation, so fine of you yo ATTACk me and then running away by blocking me. Don't even have the GUTS for my response after attacking me. What is it that you DON'T GET about fiction and the ability to differentiated from RL??? You keep going to other ppl and attacking them for their viewpoints and then attacking them personally over a piece of fiction. Really, get a life. Oh wait. You're ALREADY out of my life, GOOR FOR YOU. CONGRATS.
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    My original post for you, if you happen to want to read it is this:.

    You're projecting and are out of line. I don't know why you keep coming after me saying I said rape is not wrong. What part of the fantasy world don't you understand?!? It's "fine" of you as to go SO FAR as to attack my CHARACTER AS A PERSON when you now Next-To-Nothing About Me. The only immature people are those who whine about rape and who go around JUDGING people. You shameless p.o.s.

    I don't need to justify myself to you. Why would I need to seek help?!? Are you EVEN LISTENING to yourself?!? You're morally policing me and you don't even KNOW it and I'm calling you out on it and then you say I condone rape, which is THE EXACT definition of what moral policing IS!!! On a fucking manhwa fantasy WEBSITE. Just get that thru your FUCKING HEAD for once. And why would you assume I am ok with defending Shota on?!? Some stupid giant leap you've made there. You asshole. I am just here to freakimg enjoy an comic. Not to be preached at about how I do or don't defend a character in a fictional story AS IF it is a REFLECTION of who I am. Your mind is really twisted. I'm not having this convos anymore. Go fucking bother SOMEONE ELSE. For once.