This might be dragged on now

Mocha December 15, 2023 8:27 pm

Pasting my previous comment from when the detective dad was first introduced to see if my prediction will be correct soon:

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I know he hasn't done anything yet, and he's only appeared to play detective for Kowase's disappearance, BUT THAT'S EXACTLY IT! He'll be the plot device that's unexpected for our MC and will mess up the revenge process, trying to stop her because "they're just kids why are you going this far, you crazy criminal!" Line. Like, fuck off and let her actually do something for y'alls son instead of moping around and letting those crazy kids do more harm??

I have this huge hatred for self-righteous characters that are so attached to their job and principles without knowing the truth. My temper can't handle it.
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I really wanna see a calculated and perfectly executed revenge. There can be lil oopsies here and there, but nothing too major that drags and ruins everything or turns into a chummy ending.

Responses
    Celestia ludenberg December 15, 2023 9:36 pm

    I honestly thought he was a detective she hired to watch her son, than her husband for some reason. Like man's barely shown, then suddenly when he was shown for a while I thought he was a detective she hired because she suspected that her son is getting bullied

    Bro has himself to blame for all this. He could've raised a son who could defend himself, but no. Their marriage feels like she's the only parent in the child's life

    Marceline December 16, 2023 7:00 am
    I honestly thought he was a detective she hired to watch her son, than her husband for some reason. Like man's barely shown, then suddenly when he was shown for a while I thought he was a detective she hired be... Celestia ludenberg

    From what i read (correct me if I’m wrong cause i read the last chapter when it first came out and i don’t re read to catch up so my memory might be wrong) it seems like he was always busy and didn’t have time to be a family like when the child was younger. Not to mention how i don’t think (or remember) if the mother knew her son was being bullied until during his death and after he died and she read his diary/journal because her son was trying to protect her and he wanted to handle his bullying on his own until it well cost him his life. I think the mom believed her son had a good school life since her son was keeping everything to himself and was acting like he was fine at home.

    The marriage to me from what we are given so far seems like a typical stereotype marriage where the dad at work a lot barely in his home life due to being overwhelmed by work and the mom is a sahm who does everything. I can’t really make much of a judgement off the father since we were given bits and pieces about their relationship and family life in the chapter about him. But ngl he just seems and look mentally unstable. I feel like he would either be on Maria side and say “fuck dem kids” and help her kill them or he actually did abuse his family like what people had accused him of and he would try to ruin Maria and her plans to make her suffer just like how he suffered. Truthfully i don’t believe he cares much about the law now to be seen as a “good detective” especially after how cruel people treated him and continued to treat him based off a rumor (who no one chose to see if it was true) that could be true or not. I feel like he might be driven for revenge now too but the only question is who is he trying to get revenge against.

    Celestia ludenberg December 16, 2023 9:04 am
    From what i read (correct me if I’m wrong cause i read the last chapter when it first came out and i don’t re read to catch up so my memory might be wrong) it seems like he was always busy and didn’t hav... Marceline

    The thing is, he was treated like shit even before, it seems. It just got more worse after the bullies framed the murder as suicide. So he's still kind of on the side of law. Maybe I have a stereotype towards absent fathers. Because I am finding faults in him left and right

    Marceline December 16, 2023 6:24 pm
    The thing is, he was treated like shit even before, it seems. It just got more worse after the bullies framed the murder as suicide. So he's still kind of on the side of law. Maybe I have a stereotype towards a... Celestia ludenberg

    What kind of faults are you finding? Because it’s only been 1 and a half chapters since he been introduced and so far it just seems to me like the author is doing the typical plot progression by trying to play with the reader hearts. “Feel bad for this man he have a lot of troubles! He lost his son and his wife divorced him after their son death! Feel bad for him!! He so pitiful!!” Idk i just don’t genuinely remember him doing anything too significant that will make me think he automatically a shitty dude since we barely got the full story involving him. I’m on the fence with him atp because the author could take it two ways which is make him a law abiding detective or a degenerate criminal seeking for revenge like his ex wife. Or they might just give us a plot twist. But i feel like something is different up with him because i doubt Maria would just randomly divorce her husband right after their son death along with not even defending her husband against the rumors the bullies put out.

    Celestia ludenberg December 17, 2023 3:36 am
    What kind of faults are you finding? Because it’s only been 1 and a half chapters since he been introduced and so far it just seems to me like the author is doing the typical plot progression by trying to pla... Marceline

    Oh no, a father doesn't have to do shitty things to be a bad person. He can simply do nothing. That's why I said absent fathers, which he is. Simply being absent from a child's life can do numbers to them. If he was so busy with work and can't spend time with his kid, he shouldn't have had one. He didn't try to comfort his wife either. Relationships are emotional bonds, you're not supposed to act professionally to your wife when your child died. He only regretted it when she gave him divorce papers.

    Idk man seems pretty shitty to me

    Marceline December 17, 2023 4:14 am
    Oh no, a father doesn't have to do shitty things to be a bad person. He can simply do nothing. That's why I said absent fathers, which he is. Simply being absent from a child's life can do numbers to them. If h... Celestia ludenberg

    Well I agree a little bit since an absent father hurt more than never knowing your father but the whole “can’t spend time with kids then you shouldn’t have one” is a bit of an iffy argument. Kids aren’t always planned. Sometimes people fuck up and have to deal with their “mess” or “mistake” responsibly. It’s not like he out messing with other woman or cheating but he is working. Especially if he the only one working then it would be hard for him to spend time with his family. It’s not like he did “nothing”

    As for the other thing you said. In my opinion i don’t believe he regretted it only when she divorced him. I think he always regretted not being able to spend more time with his family before his son died. Maria isn’t the only one that lost a son, he did as well. But Maria trauma is deeper than his because she saw their son die. Not to mention how he could be mentally unstable as well especially when he was accused of being abusive and was shunned by everyone. They both needed eachother during their child death I believe that their marriage slowly changed and they grew more distant as the child grew up and the child was definitely the glue that held them together. To be in a relationship and in a marriage both parties need to give it their all not 100% on one side and 0% on the other side. I think they both wasn’t putting their all in the marriage and their child death opened Maria eyes and made her want a divorce. (Also because she wanted to carry out her revenge plan) I feel like the author just made the father so stereotypical. He basically the stereotypical “misunderstood and absent” father that doesn’t show their true feelings until it’s too late.

    I do agree that his past behavior was shitty no matter what kind of reasons he have but i don’t think he automatically a bad person.

    Marceline December 17, 2023 4:20 am
    Oh no, a father doesn't have to do shitty things to be a bad person. He can simply do nothing. That's why I said absent fathers, which he is. Simply being absent from a child's life can do numbers to them. If h... Celestia ludenberg

    I’m not trying to change your mind or opinion! Since i respect and enjoy your thought process/insights. It’s entertaining having these conversations since its been a while since i had one so i love the back and forth because it makes me realize more and be more informed.

    Celestia ludenberg December 17, 2023 5:14 am
    Well I agree a little bit since an absent father hurt more than never knowing your father but the whole “can’t spend time with kids then you shouldn’t have one” is a bit of an iffy argument. Kids aren�... Marceline

    Oh I know he's not a bad person, that's where my stigma at absent fathers comes in, I despise them, because people never understand why absent fathers are a bad thing. 'at least he doesn't hit you' 'at least he didn't leave' so? Just showering the child with money is fine?

    That's just a me problem. So whenever I see an absent father, I immediately try to see him in bad light. He's wasn't the most horrible case of absent father, but I would see him like that. It's a personal problem honestly.

    Regretted or not, he could've taken a break from work and try to be there for her, you know? From what I see, he was working, even after that, and she gave him divorce papers. Now, he buries himself in work. Either He's a workaholic or he has very high sense of justice (I mean justice as law abiding citizen) sure the divorce was supposed to happen, because she was dead set on revenge. But still man, he could've atleast took a break or smth idk. Then again, there are companies that are so cruel, they don't give you a break.

    Idk I'm projecting my hatred to absent fathers on him.

    Celestia ludenberg December 17, 2023 5:17 am
    I’m not trying to change your mind or opinion! Since i respect and enjoy your thought process/insights. It’s entertaining having these conversations since its been a while since i had one so i love the back... Marceline

    Honestly, same. It's not everyday you get to converse with people in internet without them calling you names for having different opinions. You made me realise I was being to harsh on him, you know?
    I enjoyed this conversation as well

    Marceline December 17, 2023 8:04 am
    Oh I know he's not a bad person, that's where my stigma at absent fathers comes in, I despise them, because people never understand why absent fathers are a bad thing. 'at least he doesn't hit you' 'at least he... Celestia ludenberg

    I completely understand! I have an absent father in my life. He was there but he wasn’t actually there if you get what i mean. But i try to not project my hatred towards them and try to give most of them the benefit of the doubt because most of the time it stems from mental illness. (which isn’t an excuse but it’s most justifiable)

    I completely agree and understand where you’re coming from because i find it weird how he decided to work instead of take time off but he could be the kind of person that prefers to work so they don’t have to think about the situation. Honestly since he a detective he should probably be able to get a break? I feel like since he was accused of being an abusive father and husband he would’ve probably been forced to take a break until the rumors die down or even possibly laid off? So idk whole thing iffy to me tbh

    Marceline December 17, 2023 8:06 am
    Honestly, same. It's not everyday you get to converse with people in internet without them calling you names for having different opinions. You made me realise I was being to harsh on him, you know? I enjoyed t... Celestia ludenberg

    People be so quick to call you names and insult you simply because you have a different perspective or opinion than them. It’s weird asf how sensitive people are nowadays

    Celestia ludenberg December 17, 2023 9:22 am
    I completely understand! I have an absent father in my life. He was there but he wasn’t actually there if you get what i mean. But i try to not project my hatred towards them and try to give most of them the ... Marceline

    You too, huh. Mine was present and considerate to his friends, but not much to us. It feels awful because that means he's doing this on purpose, or taking us for granted, you know?


    Speaking of abuse, The detective agency of all places should know that's a lie. Like he's always working, how is he abusing him when he's not even home??
    People are always quick to judge(me as well)

    Celestia ludenberg December 17, 2023 9:25 am
    People be so quick to call you names and insult you simply because you have a different perspective or opinion than them. It’s weird asf how sensitive people are nowadays Marceline

    Not just that. People are so rude for no reason nowadays. I saw horrendous comments on someone who failed on unaliving themselves, and now have a big Medica bill instead. It was so awful man. People are too insensitive or too sensitive now

    Marceline December 17, 2023 4:34 pm
    Not just that. People are so rude for no reason nowadays. I saw horrendous comments on someone who failed on unaliving themselves, and now have a big Medica bill instead. It was so awful man. People are too ins... Celestia ludenberg

    I feel like the insensitive people just wanna say the most fucked up and disgusting thing without caring about the consequences since they’re on the internet but they forgot that digital footprint and doxxing exist. Truthfully i never understand doxxing people over stupid stuff. Like i would understand if it’s a serious crime the person was or did create but even then the police can do that if it’s something life threatening instead of also getting in trouble for basically committing a crime.

    I seen a lot of tiktoks and instagram videos (and instagram is meaner than tiktok and the disgusting thing is that it be fully grown adults doing the most ) about sensitive topics and people be so insensitive while on insensitive topics people are sensitive. I don’t think judging is bad i think it bad when you continue to judge after people get the full detailed story and instead of trying to be understanding or helpful people be judgmental because they keep putting themselves in the situation and saying what they would and wouldn’t do/say instead of trying to see the situation through the OP eyes.

    The world is basically fucked

    Marceline December 17, 2023 4:55 pm
    You too, huh. Mine was present and considerate to his friends, but not much to us. It feels awful because that means he's doing this on purpose, or taking us for granted, you know?Speaking of abuse, The detecti... Celestia ludenberg

    I completely understand! Like i rather have a dad that “left to get milk” than a dad that physically here but not emotionally or mentally here. Most of these fathers are basically children raising children and they think just providing for their children means they’re a good father which is far from the the truth.

    Right! Like that is so weird to me, he basically with y’all 24/7 and they think and believe a rumor like he capable of doing it. My thing is why didn’t they go in depth to track the person down that created the rumors. His chapter was just too quick pace and chaotic with a lot of plot holes for me tbh

    Celestia ludenberg December 17, 2023 8:37 pm
    I completely understand! Like i rather have a dad that “left to get milk” than a dad that physically here but not emotionally or mentally here. Most of these fathers are basically children raising children ... Marceline

    Yea, exactly!
    What good is there with a shell of a man?
    Honestly, their way of thinking is so fucked up.

    True
    The whole dad's side is filled with plot holes, but whatever, I'm just here to see the revenge

    Celestia ludenberg December 17, 2023 8:44 pm
    I feel like the insensitive people just wanna say the most fucked up and disgusting thing without caring about the consequences since they’re on the internet but they forgot that digital footprint and doxxing... Marceline

    Instagram is disgusting atm
    People have flithy mouth running, while they hide behind an alt account. One time I was telling someone it's a stupid stereotype that a persons clothing correlates to their chances of getting sexually assaulted. Then one guy randomly popped up and said, you are so ugly no one would buy your only fans of you had one.

    First of all, ouch. I never really thought of myself as a breathtaking person, but that hurt. Second of all, why is men always using onlyfans to insult a woman, when they are the one pouring money onto it. Sure there are women using it, but most majority of people funding the content in there are men. This 'being sexist is sigma' Charade is annoying as hell

    Marceline December 17, 2023 10:30 pm
    Instagram is disgusting atmPeople have flithy mouth running, while they hide behind an alt account. One time I was telling someone it's a stupid stereotype that a persons clothing correlates to their chances of... Celestia ludenberg

    Bruh you should’ve insulted him back! Never let a man that hides behind a screen lower your self esteem because if he wanna call someone ugly but not show themselves then that how you know they’re ugly asf themselves and is trying to make themselves feel better by being a sexist degenerate. But you know what better to take the high road because he gonna end up being a broke man living in his parents basement that get used by women for his money. I don’t use instagram at all, i honestly just don’t see the point of it tbh like the same stuff i can do on instagram i can do on other platforms so i just ignore it.

    I genuinely really hate when people say “well if the roles were reversed” or “if this race did this” like shut up we aren’t talking about this gender or this race but what we see in the video and people constantly try to place blame on the other races or gender that have completely nothing to do with the topic on hand.

    It’s so stupid how they think being a pornstar, stripper, or having an onlyfans is an insult. Like okay and? I’m honestly here for the women that does that as a job because they can take all the money from these sexist pigs and truthfully the most disgusting and horrible thing is that it be women putting down other women. It’s not even pick me actions it’s just them being absolutely horrible human beings against their own gender.

    Marceline December 17, 2023 10:34 pm
    Yea, exactly!What good is there with a shell of a man?Honestly, their way of thinking is so fucked up.TrueThe whole dad's side is filled with plot holes, but whatever, I'm just here to see the revenge Celestia ludenberg

    Honestly the dad side was just irrelevant. I saw no point in having his “backstory” as a chapter if you aren’t gonna go in depth with it. Literally a whole chapter for this random man when we could’ve more Maria in action moment.

    Same like this story just seems like a rush pace revenge story. I’m here for the killing and them getting what they deserve at this point i’m not even here for the story because it filled with a bunch of plot holes that doesn’t seem like it would ever get explained. This seems like a story i will finish reading and never reread

    Celestia ludenberg December 18, 2023 3:10 am
    Bruh you should’ve insulted him back! Never let a man that hides behind a screen lower your self esteem because if he wanna call someone ugly but not show themselves then that how you know they’re ugly asf ... Marceline

    It's funny how they keep degrading it. Like who's spending money on this, my guy? Who's making this a earn-able career choice?

    I would've Insulted him back, the same way he said to me, you know? But I can't find him. Either he deleted it, or he was reported. I can only find that comment in my notification box. If I had that comment, I would've been so petty bro, thank God I wasn't able to see it. I would be calling names to even his ancestors . Nobody is going to insult me like that without me going even lower to insult them