Showing something doesnt always mean fetishising but considering how so much of the stuff on this website treats the subject matter people are usually right to call it fetishisation.
Us "thinking sensitive individuals" can recognise when the subject matter in a piece of media is handled poorly and can accept that the criticism it creates is valid on its own terms.
Youre allowed to shut your brain off and read something just cause its hot and kinky, that doesnt meant people that have a more critical approach to the way they view media are wrong for "taking fictional work seriously". Often fiction is written as a form of commentary and often people like to see that
People can take fictional work however they want. Doesn't make it right to accuse authors of fetishising anyone or anything and basically EVERYTHING the way people are doing now a days. Plus one could argue that porn is the biggest fetishization of all. It fetishises sex and the characters in it. And yet here we all are, reading porn on an illegal site. The hypocrisy of it all is what drives me crazy.
You say "everything" when all the works i see people genuinely complain about do mishandle the topics they deal with lmao.
Yes, people are reading shitty fetishy porn trying to justify it and people are shit talking stuff theyre pirating. Everyone here is a hypocrite in some sense so genuinely what is even the point in getting so mad ppl dont alw agree with u. This is not a personal attack lololol
And you should! I think the genuine difference is that if you have a message you really care about and want to portray through fiction there's sp much value to that. There's amazing books out there that deal with serious topics appropriately and despite the sensitive content people can still appreciate the deeper intent of the author (take for example the novel Lolita).
I think if its a message you genhinely care about and is a topic very close to your heart you'll be able to convey it in a way that will really resonate with people
I mean, just because it’s fiction doesn’t mean it’s not fetishizing? I’m not saying any story with rape or abuse or whatever is fetishizing it, but yeah, if you’re reading a story in which an author wrote something a specific way because they find it hot and it falls into a very specific category, that’s generally the definition of fetishizing something. Puriteen culture is ruining shit, and judgmental people acting like they have the moral high ground because your fav is “problematic” is annoying and mean, but fetishization is a thing.
No. I specifically said that if it's a case where someone does it SOLELY because they find it hot. That means they are not doing it for the plot. For instance, there is rape that adds to the plotline, and there is rape that is done because someone thinks it's hot to watch someone get dominated. One is plot, one is not.
Honestly, I am so tired of everyone throwing around the word fetishising. It feels like now any story that is not cute and fluffy, the author gets accused of fetishising someone, a group of people or something. If a story involves an abused person, the author is fetishising abuse or the behavior of abused people. if a story shows a female character thinking a gay couple kissing is hot, they are fetishsing gay men. If a story depicts FICTIONAL rape, they are fetishising rape. The list goes on and on! The authors are not fetishising anything or anyone, they are just telling a fictional story for people's entertainment! It is up to us, as smart, thinking, sensitive individuals to differentiate between fiction and reality and know that gay men are not objects for us to fan over. It is up to us to know that abuse victims deal with trauma differently or that rape in real life is never ok. And most importantly, it is up to us to know the difference between REAL people and made believe people and that all real human beings have feelings because they are not objects. Pretty sure authors know that too, they don't truly see people as objects, they are just telling a FICTIONAL story with FICTIONAL characters.