It was ridiculously rude of that man to adopt her without her consent , it’s making me i...

shortcake November 17, 2023 1:16 pm

It was ridiculously rude of that man to adopt her without her consent , it’s making me irritated

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    CaiChiCat November 17, 2023 1:39 pm

    Thats...not how adopting works???

    shortcake November 17, 2023 1:44 pm
    Thats...not how adopting works??? CaiChiCat

    The purple hair guy literally asked ayrin if she wanted to be adopted, she said no, and yet he still went and did it on his own accord .

    CaiChiCat November 17, 2023 1:56 pm
    The purple hair guy literally asked ayrin if she wanted to be adopted, she said no, and yet he still went and did it on his own accord . shortcake

    So if a kid was being abused by his mother but still wanted to stay with her instead of being adopted....you'd let the kids. Let me guess you think parents should get the consent of the kids before they give birth to them? Kids can not consent to ANYTHING because they do not truly know what's good or bad for them. I work as a teacher assistant and have met and continue to meet several kids that have been adopted or in the system. One kids is unable to even think for herself (God bless the woman who adopted her, she really cares for the kid) so should the lady ask for consent of the kid to be adopted? No cause even if the kid wasn't disabled, she's still a kid and can't really comprehend things. Should we start asking kids for consent before taking them to the dentist/doctors? "No because it's good for them!".....okay? Apparently just because it's good for them you should listen to the kids because "cOnSent". To the guy he thought aryn had no home, she literally stayed with his son up until that point they met and wasn't ever worried about going back home. Talking about a child consenting, you're insane.

    Haruharu November 17, 2023 2:49 pm

    Honestly he should've did research on her or something cause that was messed up. And yes, he does need her consent cause it's obviously in a fantasy setting and not reality. That man was only worried about his son in the beginning and didn't have any good intentions toward her whatsoever. He couldn't have cared less about her opinion as well. As long as his son was safe. Duke Collin and his son are possessive and have a loose screw in their head. The next day he literally signed the stupid papers without giving her time, after asking her. He's the one that misunderstood her background. But in the end it's a manwha...idk why others out here acting butt hurt over a comment cause we're irritated at a man.

    dragon_queen November 17, 2023 5:50 pm
    So if a kid was being abused by his mother but still wanted to stay with her instead of being adopted....you'd let the kids. Let me guess you think parents should get the consent of the kids before they give bi... CaiChiCat

    I do agree with you. But I’m terms of consent on where the kid wants to go in that situation sometimes does matter. My mother was an alcoholic/druggie and was very abusive. Like force my brother to drink since he was twelve and punish me by forcing me to take drugs since I was 10 type of abusive. she also wouldn’t feed us sometimes and would ignore us for days. We ended up getting taken away and I ended up with our dad and my twin asked to stay with our grandparents. It might’ve been good to make her live with our dad but she wanted to live with them so they allowed her since her being comfortable was more important. Even though she wanted to stay with our mom she had to leave (which was good) but because it was a difficult situation they don’t usually force a kid to live with the other parent even when that parent seems good since it came down to her consent. Also she ended living with her again even while my mom was still a drug addict and alcoholic with consent of the court since she wanted to live with her. I honestly don’t think that should’ve been allowed but to the courts the child’s opinion/consent can sometimes be important.

    CaiChiCat November 17, 2023 6:47 pm
    Honestly he should've did research on her or something cause that was messed up. And yes, he does need her consent cause it's obviously in a fantasy setting and not reality. That man was only worried about his ... Haruharu

    Whose acting butt hurt? Cause I wasn't the one who wrote a long paragraph first. I simply disagreed how adoption works.

    XiomyReads November 18, 2023 1:38 am
    Thats...not how adopting works??? CaiChiCat

    ironically enough that’s how a lot of adopting happens.

    the most adopted & demanded demographics are usually babies and toddlers who can not give consent. but i’m also speaking from a U.S. perspective, not sure what it’s like outside the world

    JUUN11XX November 18, 2023 3:02 am
    Honestly he should've did research on her or something cause that was messed up. And yes, he does need her consent cause it's obviously in a fantasy setting and not reality. That man was only worried about his ... Haruharu

    I wish i could like this comment lol, i find the irony in the other party's response

    CaiChiCat November 18, 2023 10:51 pm
    ironically enough that’s how a lot of adopting happens. the most adopted & demanded demographics are usually babies and toddlers who can not give consent. but i’m also speaking from a U.S. perspective, ... XiomyReads

    Except not at all. I know 8 kids right this instance and if they are smart enought to know their situation some of them constantly say that they want to go see their mom who they got taken away because she was a drunk. Yet they still aren't with her. A judge can ask a kid if their opinion but a judge will never ask a child for their consent to who they send the child to because guess what? A. CHILD. CAN. NOT. CINSENT. TO. ANYTHING.

    CaiChiCat November 18, 2023 10:53 pm
    I wish i could like this comment lol, i find the irony in the other party's response JUUN11XX

    Ah yes irony because .....the person is fucking stupid about asking a child for consent and I disagreed because I've seen multiple cases of adoptions and fosters.

    XiomyReads November 19, 2023 1:29 am
    Except not at all. I know 8 kids right this instance and if they are smart enought to know their situation some of them constantly say that they want to go see their mom who they got taken away because she was ... CaiChiCat

    What exactly are you arguing against in my initial reply? For one, anecdotal evidence is not substantial enough to pass on as factual, especially in a discussion on adoption.

    To me, your example is very niche compared to the overall system. It is a known fact that babies are the most demanded in the market (& most adopted, which was my initial perspective on why I insinuated they can’t consent). It is a known fact that these agencies pray on low-income mothers and coerce into giving up their children or are weaponized against low socioeconomic parents who do not need their kids taken away. It is a known fact (among many former adoptees) that adoption is almost never a positive first alternative for children in unstable situations. The system is just straight up unethical & BROKEN.

    To say, children can’t consent does make sense in most if not all situations, but in this particular conversation I’m simply trying to emphasize that their voices are just straight up never really heard, and so they “can’t consent” (consent may be the wrong word tho)… but my whole point is that the system is not child-centered & there isn’t more of a push for such alternative. it’s $$$$$ and adopted-parent-focused.

    CaiChiCat November 19, 2023 6:55 pm
    What exactly are you arguing against in my initial reply? For one, anecdotal evidence is not substantial enough to pass on as factual, especially in a discussion on adoption. To me, your example is very niche c... XiomyReads

    My argument is that KIDS CAN NOT FUCKING CINSENT ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO LIFE DECISIONS. Making all this fuss about "I DoNt KnOW wHaT yOu aRe sAyInG" if a kid can't get a tattoo, can't drive and of course just like any of these, they should not be the sole decider in who adopts them because just like you, kids are fucking stupid. But go ahead and try to paint ME the idiot for saying the obvious

    shortcake November 24, 2023 6:52 am
    So if a kid was being abused by his mother but still wanted to stay with her instead of being adopted....you'd let the kids. Let me guess you think parents should get the consent of the kids before they give bi... CaiChiCat

    Where I live a child has to consent to being adopted and he don’t know nothing about her or what she going through, I’m not insane it’s a law