I need to rant

Lanwei November 15, 2023 1:55 am

Okay, I’m not realky the type to write reviews but I had to let my frustration out for this one. So where to begin with?
Well first I hate the ML. He is a dick through and through. There is no reedemable quality in him. He is a monster more than anyone else in this story (maybe aside from the stepmother but they are in the same position for me. And she is the villain which show how much of a scum he is), he has no compassion nor remorse nor empathy. I hate him.
Plus he is a rapist. I hate that but at this point there is always rape in most of yaoi. I’m numb to it at this point, which isn’t a good thing but anyway. So my point is why do I want to root for him? He is suppose to be reedeming himself but to this point I saw nothing that could make me change my mind.
And mind you, we are already 50 chapters in.
It’s my second point. Which is, the slow pace of this story!! WHERE’S THE PLOT???
But why is that? It’s simple, yet infuriating.
They have sex all the time!!!!!! Of course the plot won’t move forward. I stayed because it was interesting enough and it was spooky because of the gorgeous art. BUT, please!!! The sex!! I beg you to stop it! Or at least don’t take 2 damn chapters for it every time. And it happened every 2 to 3 chapters!!! I could have skipped most of the sex’s chapters and I wouldn’t miss that much of the plot seriously. (And as much as it pains me to say it but I had enough of seeing them fucking). And there is no feeling involved during the act anyway so it’s boring fast.
I didn’t count (nor do I have the will to) but I think without those scenes, there would be only 15 to 20 chapters at most.
Anyway I finished my rant.

Responses
    plumpraisin November 15, 2023 10:38 pm

    Wait I feel like this is so well written is that just me? I feel like it’s just heavy on the romance writing which I eat up

    Greenposamari November 16, 2023 3:27 pm

    It’s one of the best written BL story’s in my opinion. I truly don’t understand why so many people complain about the amount of sex scenes when you’re literally reading a BL Yaoi story. I don’t think you realize that understanding the dynamic between the two partners and how it evolves when they’re doing it is also part of the story’s plot. For example from season one till now, you can tell that Lee Nok has become more comfortable with Jaeshin and Jaeshins become softer to him. And that’s indicative of their evolving feelings for each other. Not to mention that the English translations are at least five chapters behind the Korean translations like there is so much that’s happened with the plot from season 1 to now I’m just lost as to how you think it’s going nowhere like have you even been reading?

    Lanwei November 16, 2023 4:32 pm
    It’s one of the best written BL story’s in my opinion. I truly don’t understand why so many people complain about the amount of sex scenes when you’re literally reading a BL Yaoi story. I don’t think ... Greenposamari

    Good for you if you find this manga one of the best BL story written. I'm glad you like it.

    plumpraisin November 16, 2023 6:10 pm
    It’s one of the best written BL story’s in my opinion. I truly don’t understand why so many people complain about the amount of sex scenes when you’re literally reading a BL Yaoi story. I don’t think ... Greenposamari

    liiiiiiterally!!!

    Choso November 16, 2023 11:56 pm
    It’s one of the best written BL story’s in my opinion. I truly don’t understand why so many people complain about the amount of sex scenes when you’re literally reading a BL Yaoi story. I don’t think ... Greenposamari

    fr!

    Nobody November 17, 2023 1:38 am
    Wait I feel like this is so well written is that just me? I feel like it’s just heavy on the romance writing which I eat up plumpraisin

    I feel like in stories with supernatural and/or long-lived beings, people forget that they tend to amoral. We can’t be sure if time really makes someone amoral and/or hedonistic, but I think we’ve all encountered the phrase uttered by Harvey Dent in the Batman movie, “You Either Die A Hero, Or You Live Long Enough To See Yourself Become The Villain".
    The hypothesis when writing supernatural beings is that they have lived so long and seen so much that normal people’s values and ethics don’t apply and it comes up in most if not all stories dealing with the supernatural.
    Take Natsume Yuujincho for example, a lot of the yokai he meets aren’t malicious, but do some things that we might find questionable and they always bring up how short human lives are.
    So this not to justify Jaeshin, but he’s written as a demon, granted, he’s a half-demon, but he doesn’t identify with his human half. The reason he has to make a human fall in love with him is to humanize himself.

    SirKevin November 18, 2023 3:57 am

    Yeah i agree with you, i had to drop because of the rape. I dont mind rape when it's supposed to be a fucked up relation, but this is suppose to be well, about people falling in love.

    Josh November 18, 2023 10:43 pm

    You didn't want to count, yet you like to speak about the numbers. So I did the counting for you - for 58 chapters there're 18 chapters with sex scenes and I've counted in even when most of the chapter is not sexual. And it's not like all the rest of them took whole chapters. So without then we would have get 40-42 chapters, not 15 or 20. That gives us 31%, much less then a half. And we have to remember that the chapters only with the story are often longer.
    I feel like the ppl who most complain it's all sex and no plot, are the one most focused on those parts.

    The rape parts are hard, I do agree with that. However they fit to the story. Have you noticed that it's one of the very few yaoi when it's not romanticised? There's a character (Yeom) who tells him that by doing that he's not different from molesting vermin ghosts and will only get Nok's hatred. And Nok hates him for that and skewered him (gosh that was satisfying).

    Greenposamari November 19, 2023 2:40 am
    You didn't want to count, yet you like to speak about the numbers. So I did the counting for you - for 58 chapters there're 18 chapters with sex scenes and I've counted in even when most of the chapter is not s... Josh

    Omgggg yessss agreed. I totally forgot about when Yeom scolded him for doing that!! And LMAO SKEWERED HIM

    Josh November 19, 2023 10:10 am
    Omgggg yessss agreed. I totally forgot about when Yeom scolded him for doing that!! And LMAO SKEWERED HIM Greenposamari

    And I believe she did it more than once ;)

    SirKevin November 20, 2023 3:07 am
    And I believe she did it more than once ;) Josh

    Personnally that's not enough for me :/ I don't find it interesting when a rape victim falls in love with their predator, even if it is said to be bad and yes even if there's a psychological reason behind the predator's action. Glad to know it's at least adressed but it's still not enough for me to enjoy. To each their own tho!

    Josh November 20, 2023 11:38 am
    Personnally that's not enough for me :/ I don't find it interesting when a rape victim falls in love with their predator, even if it is said to be bad and yes even if there's a psychological reason behind the p... SirKevin

    I agree that's the weakest point of this story. No victim would truly love their predators. We could only get a Stockholm syndrome in that case. And I'm not absolving the writer about that.
    At least the second time could be avoided - it's the worst one.
    First time? Oookay let's say Jaeshin's dumb, it's a fantasy, set in medieval times when there were different views on "rape", Half asleep Nok thinks it's just another ghost that keeps molesting him. Still not consent and rapey, though.
    But it would be so much better and intact for the story to put here Yeom's reprimend, Nok realising it was more real than other ghosts (but still a ghost), stabbing to prove, then Jaeshin, remembering he should not put it as he likes, but in order to show and explain that it was thanks to him Nok wasn't stalked by other ghosts, molests him again. Then propose the agreement.
    But the second one? Absolutely horrible. With "I don't want to wait", "it's no use begging a ghost" and crying Nok - it broke my heart.