Question!

Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 7:50 pm

Is it really bad to read yaoi? Because it has a really bad reputation online for fetishising gay people. So i was wondering if its wrong to read yaoi.

Responses
    pigglypoof November 13, 2023 7:53 pm

    You're asking the wrong crowd. Pretty much everyone here is reading bl. Just treat gay people like normal people. Read what you wanna read and but don't be weird about it.

    vincent3003 November 13, 2023 7:55 pm

    you are more self aware than like 75% of yaoi readers alone by asking this question. you're right that yaoi has a bad reputation of fetishizing gay people. most authors are women and some of them write/draw yaoi as a form of escapism and catharsis from their conservative, sexist society. i would suggest you make some gay friends IRL and participate in pride month if you really want to know what gay culture is like (don't be weird about it). it's quite different from what's written in these fictional stories

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 7:57 pm
    You're asking the wrong crowd. Pretty much everyone here is reading bl. Just treat gay people like normal people. Read what you wanna read and but don't be weird about it. pigglypoof

    Yeah.. i already knew i was asking the wrong crowd... but still worth a try i guess. But thank you for your answer (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    gros batard November 13, 2023 7:58 pm

    just dont be a weirdo and fetishize real gay men lmfao

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 8:03 pm
    you are more self aware than like 75% of yaoi readers alone by asking this question. you're right that yaoi has a bad reputation of fetishizing gay people. most authors are women and some of them write/draw yao... vincent3003

    I already know to keep my bl reading and gay people irl seperated they arent the same as real people just as you said. and tbh some yaoi are just so idk how to describe it, but just fetish content and i try to avoid those a bit. I'm pretty introverted so i dont have that many friends but i do have some gay(?) friends.

    But thank you for your answer (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    ★彡 November 13, 2023 8:03 pm

    Thats between you and God XD

    Nerium November 13, 2023 8:04 pm

    That's a bit of a loaded question. I feel like most people read BL because a lot of straight and yuri romance/smut stories are lacking. I love Yuri, I'm way more attracted to women, but, I don't read it as much as I'd like since a lot of it either lacks or is geared towards cis men. Everyone and everything is fetishized at the end of the day. Yuri/yaoi/straight romance would all really benefit from a dose of reality. I look at it as you need to approach it realistically and acknowledge there's a massive difference between yaoi and how actual queer relationships work.

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 8:07 pm
    just dont be a weirdo and fetishize real gay men lmfao gros batard

    lol thats true ( ̄∇ ̄")

    Kspacesystem November 13, 2023 8:08 pm

    Don't be like this woman really. ;; https://www.mangago.zone/thing/about/686808/

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 8:09 pm
    That's a bit of a loaded question. I feel like most people read BL because a lot of straight and yuri romance/smut stories are lacking. I love Yuri, I'm way more attracted to women, but, I don't read it as much... Nerium

    Yes i agree with your opinion. i honestly think yuri and straight smut stories are way more fetishized than yaoi. i tried reading it once and the only thing i saw was boobs everywhere lmao ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    But thank you for your answer (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 8:10 pm
    Thats between you and God XD ★彡

    Lol a little secret ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 8:11 pm
    Don't be like this woman really. ;; https://www.mangago.me/thing/about/686808/ Kspacesystem

    I also dont like those people, i think they shouldnt be aloud to read mangas.

    and funny seeing you here! i also saw you on my other post (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ

    Pucci/ Free Palestine! November 13, 2023 8:47 pm

    Reading yaoi in and of itself isnt a bad thing. I have been reading Boys Love manga since I Was at least 10 years old, only to realise I was a trans queer man. I wasnt reading it to fetishize gay men, because even before I was aware of who I was, I could only ever relate to gay men. So reading Boys love has always been comforting to me. But in that time, I have come to meet a lot of women who dont even support gay people, but only read yaoi to get off on it as their weird fetish. Reading Yaoi doesnt make you a LGBT+ ally, and a lot of yaoi manga I have read shamelessly justify sexual assault and harrassment. I do understand that a lot of BL manga creators are queer women or even transgender men/transmascs or queer men writing under a female pen name, but yaoi usually gives me the ick. Just keep in mind that yaoi and Boys Love (shounen ai ) are not the same, yaoi is almost always just fetishizing male&male relationships, Shounen AI from my own experience is much more wholesome and much more realistic and doesnt justify assault as often. I would recommend Bara (a Genre of manga written by queer men for queer men) but most of it is just smut, and I'm more of a romance type of guy. Danmei is also very good (chinese shounen ai). This genre of manhua has incredibly good stories with interesting Plotlines that dont necessarily Center the queer relationship, but definetly includes it. It usually depends on a manga itself, they have become far less problematic as the years have passed. But I still stear clear from Shounen Ai manga written by straight women because they constantly claim that the Protagonist isnt gay but that guy is just an exception, while they make the only gay guy in the manga a fucking terrible person. Why do these fuckers only use me as a fetish and in the same breath are violently m*sturbating at the thought of calling me a homophobic slur??!?! I hate fujoshis and those types of authors with a burning passion. This is not a threat, I just dislike them for hopefully understandable reasons.

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 8:53 pm
    Reading yaoi in and of itself isnt a bad thing. I have been reading Boys Love manga since I Was at least 10 years old, only to realise I was a trans queer man. I wasnt reading it to fetishize gay men, because e... Pucci/ Free Palestine!

    I totally agree with what you said! And I also really hate the assault and rape and all that sort of stuff in bl. I also don't like the: I'm not gay but I do like your dick trope. (If yk what I mean). And I totally agree with your opinion on danmei! One of my fav series is one! And I don't want to shame anyone but masturbating to yaoi is a bit weird imo

    But anyways thank you for your reply (づ ̄ ³ ̄)づ
    (And if you have recommendations for me to read I'll gladly hear so!)

    BriBri November 13, 2023 8:59 pm

    Personally I read it only to imagine experiencing being loved without being treated like a weak damsel in distress

    pigglypoof November 13, 2023 9:07 pm
    Reading yaoi in and of itself isnt a bad thing. I have been reading Boys Love manga since I Was at least 10 years old, only to realise I was a trans queer man. I wasnt reading it to fetishize gay men, because e... Pucci/ Free Palestine!

    It's baffling how so many women read bl but hate lgbtq+ people. They take what they want from queer folk and give nothing in return.

    Justanidiothere November 13, 2023 9:19 pm
    Personally I read it only to imagine experiencing being loved without being treated like a weak damsel in distress BriBri

    I do notice that most female mcs are either the: I don't have a weakness and I can kill anyone or the I can't do anything by myself and I'm just a cute girl type of protagonist and that honestly makes me annoyed since it feels like they don't have any personality

    BriBri November 13, 2023 10:41 pm
    I do notice that most female mcs are either the: I don't have a weakness and I can kill anyone or the I can't do anything by myself and I'm just a cute girl type of protagonist and that honestly makes me annoye... Justanidiothere

    Exactly so it doesn’t even appeal to me after reading that back to back (probably why I have a villainess MC obsession). I just want to read stuff that doesn’t feel misogynistic

    ashe November 14, 2023 12:07 am

    why are u asking about morals on the fucking porn site dear lordddswkf

    Kspacesystem November 14, 2023 12:10 am
    why are u asking about morals on the fucking porn site dear lordddswkf ashe

    People are curious. Nothing wrong with it.

    Herta