I honestly don’t understand why people hate/get mad at Jaekyung. Yeah he’s not the nic...

happyggm November 13, 2023 5:35 pm

I honestly don’t understand why people hate/get mad at Jaekyung. Yeah he’s not the nicest guy but they’re not in a relationship, they’re in a contract/agreement. Uke was never forced into this. If anything seme helped him out for a harsher reality where the fucken loan sharks forced him into prostitution or sell his organs. People saying he irredeemable, like why? I would get it if they were in a relationship & was treating him like this but that’s ain’t the case. Seme paid off thousands of dollars of debt & gave him the choice, he didn’t force him into this agreement. Obviously uke didn’t have a choice but that’s wasn’t semes fault. Y’all forgot that the loans sharks beat him up & almost ganged rape him

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    Sweet Bean November 13, 2023 5:39 pm

    I think people don't like his overall attitude and how mean he treats him

    fish November 13, 2023 5:45 pm

    mc chose the lesser of two evils to save not himself but his dying grandmother. if he was alone he probably wouldve just died

    Ivy November 13, 2023 5:53 pm

    Agreed. Some prosti women even experienced worse than this just to gain a little money or even just to survive. Then they either get sick, addicted or die from it.

    This story is not just a manga for me it's a harsh reality for people who lives in poverty.

    hatdiggitydog November 13, 2023 6:49 pm

    i think you forgot a lot of facts here so let me just remind you. jaekyung is 100% abusing dan physically and emotionally too. jaekyung didn't pay dan's debt out of the kindness of his heart, he paid it so he can use it to manipulate dan and guilt trip him into doing whatever the fuck jaekyung wants. he has definitely raped and hurt dan on purpose and he takes pleasure in that if you reread the chapters. dan does not want to sleep with someone to pay his bills you can literally read dan's thought he was refusing to do this sort of thing but had to because of his grandma. jaekyung took advantage of dan's debts so he can force dan to stay in a sexual relationship with him, and dan hasn't enjoyed it(except when he was drugged ofc). jaekyung has tied dan up and literally non consenually showed his naked body getting fucked in front of heesung. he has consistently treated dan like shit and humiliated and treated him like a mere human servant. jaekyung has raped and taken advantage of dan knowing that dan is under some kind of drug and not caring to at least have the decency to reject a drugged human being. jaekyung has threatened dan countless times in order to get dan to do whatever he wants. dan was not aware that he would have to do all types of fucked up things and handle jaekyung's abuse, because he just assumed it would be normal sex. that's why people hate jaekyung i hope that cleared it up for you.

    happyggm November 13, 2023 9:35 pm
    i think you forgot a lot of facts here so let me just remind you. jaekyung is 100% abusing dan physically and emotionally too. jaekyung didn't pay dan's debt out of the kindness of his heart, he paid it so he c... hatdiggitydog

    like you said it yourself seme didn't pay his debts out of the kindness of his heart but cuz they had agreement & that's what is expected from him, SEX. How can he be raped if he agreed to this condition. in 3 or more instances the seme gave him the chance to leave, telling him he wasn't gonna push himself onto someone that didn't want to have sex. that's literally the whole point of them having sex cuz of his jinx. obviously seme is a jerk & so is a lot of people with money. they like to toy with people. in his mind why should he be considerate of uke when he is literally being paid to sleep with him. None of that makes it right, but then obviously that's the whole plot, his character. a rich asshole guy that starts getting possessive & anxious to then realize he has feelings for the uke. like this ain't no lovey dovey plot. if anything this shows a real reality that goes on everyday in real life.

    happyggm November 13, 2023 9:39 pm
    like you said it yourself seme didn't pay his debts out of the kindness of his heart but cuz they had agreement & that's what is expected from him, SEX. How can he be raped if he agreed to this condition. i... happyggm

    regardless if he didn't know what type of sex they were gonna have he agreed to have sex. neither of them put out a set of rules of what that would entail. so yes, its not what he expected but seme isn't breaking "any rules" cuz they didn't have any to begin with

    happyggm November 13, 2023 9:42 pm
    I think people don't like his overall attitude and how mean he treats him Sweet Bean

    I always find it ironic when people hate on the main love interest when the whole plot/character is about an asshole seme & a poor uke. like you knew this coming into the story, its part of the plot & "character development"

    hatdiggitydog November 13, 2023 10:23 pm
    I always find it ironic when people hate on the main love interest when the whole plot/character is about an asshole seme & a poor uke. like you knew this coming into the story, its part of the plot & "... happyggm

    yeah i agree with you we all knew the top was gonna be an asshole but i think everyone's surprised that it's reached this level. and when i say rape i mean like when dan would tell him to stop or that it hurts or that dan isn't even hard so he isn't enjoying it, jaekyung would keep going nonetheless and even to the point where dan was bleeding if you recall. ik you're saying that it isn't rape bc they had an agreement which is true, but there are a lot of factors that happen which don't really make it very consenual yk on dan's end i guess but it is what it is this story still has a long way to go.

    Sweet Bean November 14, 2023 12:25 pm
    I always find it ironic when people hate on the main love interest when the whole plot/character is about an asshole seme & a poor uke. like you knew this coming into the story, its part of the plot & "... happyggm

    Lol right

    fish November 15, 2023 5:00 pm
    I always find it ironic when people hate on the main love interest when the whole plot/character is about an asshole seme & a poor uke. like you knew this coming into the story, its part of the plot & "... happyggm

    honestly i don't hate the the guy (love interest) but this story is so boring and dumb, its like the straight hentai's that have a shit plot. we expected more from this author since she made bj alex and those characters had good character development. unless mc is about to die and other dude saves him i dont see how they fall in love.

    Manhwaspicy November 16, 2023 3:26 pm
    yeah i agree with you we all knew the top was gonna be an asshole but i think everyone's surprised that it's reached this level. and when i say rape i mean like when dan would tell him to stop or that it hurts ... hatdiggitydog

    The only time Dan bled was in the beginning. Why should he be considerate of Dan liking the sex when he paid for sex with Uke’s consent? He even said it himself, he told Dan when he noticed he wasn't hard, “…hard to please, huh?” I admit that Jaekyung is abusive but this is the reality of their contract. It isn't rape until Dan and mingwa say so. I hope we read this story to the end pal.

    Manhwaspicy November 16, 2023 3:35 pm
    honestly i don't hate the the guy (love interest) but this story is so boring and dumb, its like the straight hentai's that have a shit plot. we expected more from this author since she made bj alex and those c... fish

    In the romance aspect, it is indeed boring. But this was never intended to be a healthy romance, Mingwa was specific on the path she was following. It's a toxic story and a toxic relationship.

    Manhwaspicy November 16, 2023 3:35 pm
    In the romance aspect, it is indeed boring. But this was never intended to be a healthy romance, Mingwa was specific on the path she was following. It's a toxic story and a toxic relationship. Manhwaspicy

    It is indeed boring for now*

    hatdiggitydog November 16, 2023 4:58 pm
    The only time Dan bled was in the beginning. Why should he be considerate of Dan liking the sex when he paid for sex with Uke’s consent? He even said it himself, he told Dan when he noticed he wasn't hard, �... Manhwaspicy

    okay wait so you don't think it's rape even when dan says no or that it hurts or for him to stop? i get your point that jaekyung is paying for sex, but you still don't believe that it can be rape? i think just because dan has to let jaekyung fuck him for money does not mean that he cannot be raped because even if dan can't say no, he still has to let it happen even when he doesn't want it. that is rape tho the literal definition of it. and i'm not tryna argue i'm tryna see your pov tbh

    happyggm November 16, 2023 7:15 pm
    okay wait so you don't think it's rape even when dan says no or that it hurts or for him to stop? i get your point that jaekyung is paying for sex, but you still don't believe that it can be rape? i think just ... hatdiggitydog

    Do you know how many uke say to stop or that it hurts

    hatdiggitydog November 16, 2023 7:37 pm
    Do you know how many uke say to stop or that it hurts happyggm

    hun that's literally just a rapey manhwa saying that has been so normalised that even you think it's okay because oh all the bottoms in manhwas say that all the time so it's not rape or sexual abuse. get your morals right. it's just a work of fiction at the end of the day but don't try to justify it you weirdo bruh wtf

    happyggm November 16, 2023 8:55 pm
    hun that's literally just a rapey manhwa saying that has been so normalised that even you think it's okay because oh all the bottoms in manhwas say that all the time so it's not rape or sexual abuse. get your m... hatdiggitydog

    Like you said that’s a troupe in this genre. Ain’t no one saying this is right in real life. Most people would stop if they’re partner tells them to stop. I had wrote a longer comment going deeper into this but i don’t know why only the first sentence was posted

    happyggm November 16, 2023 9:07 pm
    Like you said that’s a troupe in this genre. Ain’t no one saying this is right in real life. Most people would stop if they’re partner tells them to stop. I had wrote a longer comment going deeper into th... happyggm

    Okay I don’t what’s going on but my comment keeps not getting fully posted. I’ll reply back again later

    hatdiggitydog November 16, 2023 10:54 pm
    Like you said that’s a troupe in this genre. Ain’t no one saying this is right in real life. Most people would stop if they’re partner tells them to stop. I had wrote a longer comment going deeper into th... happyggm

    okay but i'm not talking about real life tho i'm talking about pls don't try to justify it in the story by saying that oh all stories have bottoms always asking to stop like yeah that is true yet that doesn't mean that dan isn't being raped in the story tho

    Morning Diamonds November 17, 2023 12:45 am
    okay but i'm not talking about real life tho i'm talking about pls don't try to justify it in the story by saying that oh all stories have bottoms always asking to stop like yeah that is true yet that doesn't m... hatdiggitydog

    For one this is a story and fake. You have to take more into consideration than one line.

    Why are you making this about real life?

    You want to make this about real life?
    Okay.
    https://scholarship.law.vanderbilt.edu/vlr/vol58/iss4/5/#:~:text=This%20survey%20found%20that%2039.3,cite%20them%20as%20evidence%20that

    This survey found that 39.3 percent of the female undergraduates surveyed sometimes said no, although they "had every intention to and were willing to engage in sexual intercourse." Although this and other studies showed that "no" does mean "no" for most women, some interpreting these results cite them as evidence that the word "no" confuses some men. The "no means no" standard, despite its apparent simplicity, is under attack by those who claim that it is simply not true-that in many dating cases "no" may not actually mean no…


    You can’t take one line. Many cases in real life the cases rest in the respect for the person’s opinions and perspective. It depends on specific circumstances and applicable laws. Not someone else opinions that a part of it.

    This does not mean Dan is being rape. It seems you get a point and they are “justifying” as you are forcing your pov on them. Do you want to know or just force your opinion? You are reduced to insulting them over an opinion. It is a contract relationship and it is toxic. It is non-con but it is not rape. Jaekyung is a sexual abuser. Why are trying to so hard to harm others and force your opinion on them instead of listening to them in a peaceful and safe environment? Can you have a civil conversation?