@min at least let me answer your comment

BrokenEchoes November 4, 2023 10:27 pm

I think you need to ask yourself those last three questions.

I'm not going to pretend Siwoo was trying to be a hero there. He had already saved Suha. He was doing it for revenge and if you care about your friends like he does, you wouldn't let their abusers walk free without punishment. And, considering the nature of Dohyeok's crimes, he deserves that kind of punishment.

And Dohyeok didn't force Siwoo to take drugs because he COULDN'T since Siwoo overpowered him before he had the chance. Did you really think he was going to treat his booty call kindly and with respect when he couldn't even treat Suha like that? Please use your brains and your eyes a bit more, and stop defending characters who have no redeeming qualities and who feel no remorse for their sins.

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    Aisha7655 November 4, 2023 10:49 pm

    No because I feel so bad for him and I can see him change :(

    Heu77 November 4, 2023 11:24 pm
    No because I feel so bad for him and I can see him change :( Aisha7655

    You feel bad for Dohyeok? I mean you can feel bad for what he went through but he’s still an asshole, I do hope he changes. Although it won’t happen right away, maybe some progress

    Bear November 4, 2023 11:51 pm

    hello? what's with the assumptions? dohyeok was literally sleeping, and he lied down again after handing siwoo the drugs, he never forced him. you're just saying things about him without solid evidence because his personality isn't nice

    BrokenEchoes November 5, 2023 12:13 am
    You feel bad for Dohyeok? I mean you can feel bad for what he went through but he’s still an asshole, I do hope he changes. Although it won’t happen right away, maybe some progress Heu77

    Can't reply in the other topic for some reason.

    But anyway ... Siwoo is miles better than Dohyeok because Dohyeok deserved it for what he did to Suha, and he doesn't go around treating others like crap on top of that. He's normally a kind, caring man who tries to help people. Unlike a certain redhead we know.

    Siwoo's main mistake in this story is that he worried about Dohyeok at all. I don't think he's expecting Suha to appreciate his actions anyway.

    BrokenEchoes November 5, 2023 12:23 am
    hello? what's with the assumptions? dohyeok was literally sleeping, and he lied down again after handing siwoo the drugs, he never forced him. you're just saying things about him without solid evidence because ... Bear

    What assumptions? The whole webtoon is proof of the kind of person Dohyeok is and what he is capable of.

    What's worse, Siwoo was going to walk away even after realising who he was but then Dohyeok grabbed his ankle and attacked him first. Only then did Siwoo assault him.

    If he didn't want to find out, he shouldn't have effed around with Siwoo or Suha in the first place.

    Bear November 5, 2023 12:28 am
    What assumptions? The whole webtoon is proof of the kind of person Dohyeok is and what he is capable of. What's worse, Siwoo was going to walk away even after realising who he was but then Dohyeok grabbed his a... BrokenEchoes

    oh please, you can never blame him for things he never did. and dohyeok gabbed his ankle AFTER siwoo forcefully fed him drugs and suffocated him with a pillow. the first one to "attack" was siwoo because dohyeok wouldn't have hit siwoo otherwise. and dohyeok didn't want to find out what? idk what that part means, but making up things just to justify your hate towards a character is too childish.

    Bear November 5, 2023 12:30 am
    Can't reply in the other topic for some reason.But anyway ... Siwoo is miles better than Dohyeok because Dohyeok deserved it for what he did to Suha, and he doesn't go around treating others like crap on top of... BrokenEchoes

    Also you seem to not notice the multiple times Siwoo assaulted Dohyeok, but somehow Dohyeok is the worst person alive even though Siwoo isn't much different from him. Strange, isn't it?

    Heu77 November 5, 2023 12:51 am
    What assumptions? The whole webtoon is proof of the kind of person Dohyeok is and what he is capable of. What's worse, Siwoo was going to walk away even after realising who he was but then Dohyeok grabbed his a... BrokenEchoes

    Alright let’s not try to act like Siwoo is better. He was in the past but he’s doing the same shit.

    BrokenEchoes November 5, 2023 2:31 am
    Alright let’s not try to act like Siwoo is better. He was in the past but he’s doing the same shit. Heu77

    You're missing the main point. Siwoo had a reason for what he did to Dohyeok and he did things Dohyeok alone, whereas Mr Red Head just abused multiple people for no reason at all.

    He was rich. He didn't do what he did out of desperation. He's never done anything nice to anyone. He's just a disgusting person who thinks he's above control. Siwoo was only teaching him otherwise and he's tried to end the relationship because it's obviously messed up.

    Why are you trying to make out that they're the same?

    Bear November 5, 2023 2:38 am
    You're missing the main point. Siwoo had a reason for what he did to Dohyeok and he did things Dohyeok alone, whereas Mr Red Head just abused multiple people for no reason at all. He was rich. He didn't do what... BrokenEchoes

    and who asked him to? siwoo knew he was powerless in front of dohyeok, he still willingly tried to mess with him. and dohyeok is right, only an idiot will overlook the matter after being drugged and assaulted. siwoo also didn't do it for revenge, when dohyeok asked him if this is about suha, he denied it. no one can ever have a reason to rape someone, that's just you being a rape apologist.

    also, siwoo has tried to end the relationship because he doesn't like being dominated, but he is the one who started this so why is he complaining? a rapist is a rapist, he should be grateful that dohyeok is a nympho or else siwoo's ass would have been in jail for what he did

    Heu77 November 5, 2023 2:45 am
    You're missing the main point. Siwoo had a reason for what he did to Dohyeok and he did things Dohyeok alone, whereas Mr Red Head just abused multiple people for no reason at all. He was rich. He didn't do what... BrokenEchoes

    You’re missing the point. I never said they’re the same. They are rapists, there’s no difference there. I think you’re confusing intentions with actions. Siwoo’s intention was to get revenge for Suha, but his actions show he did take revenge by doing the same rape shit that happened to Suha.

    Siwoo had a reason, but not good enough to rape someone. Suha wouldn’t want his friend doing the same thing that happened to him, let Suha decide.

    BrokenEchoes November 5, 2023 11:48 am
    and who asked him to? siwoo knew he was powerless in front of dohyeok, he still willingly tried to mess with him. and dohyeok is right, only an idiot will overlook the matter after being drugged and assaulted. ... Bear

    It might not have been the smartest thing to do but do you need to be asked to get revenge for your friends? If so, I pity your friends .

    And you calling me a rape apologist while defending Dohyeok is hilarious. And by hilarious I mean absolutely stupid .

    Rapists deserved to get raped in turn if they're as remorseless and disgusting as Dohyeok is. Why should they be allowed to live well while their victims suffer for the rest of their lives?

    And Siwoo never wanted to have a relationship with Dohyeok but unfortunately his identity was revealed and he was forced to play along for a bit. Why wouldn't he try his best to shift the balance in his favour? He's not a doormat like some characters and that's what makes this story so interesting.

    BrokenEchoes November 5, 2023 11:56 am
    You’re missing the point. I never said they’re the same. They are rapists, there’s no difference there. I think you’re confusing intentions with actions. Siwoo’s intention was to get revenge for Suha,... Heu77

    If you're expecting Siwoo to be an angelic character with no faults, then I can see why this is confusing to you. It's wrong to rape people. But I can see why he did it.

    It's just stupid to ignore all the good things Siwoo's done just because he did something terrible to someone who raped his friend.

    And it's just as stupid to see Dohyeok as a poor victim and ignore all the bad things he's done just because something terrible happened to him.

    This is how real life rapists get away with things and it makes me sick that people like Dohyeok, and people like you who coddle him for no reason, even exist in the first place.

    Bear November 5, 2023 12:21 pm
    It might not have been the smartest thing to do but do you need to be asked to get revenge for your friends? If so, I pity your friends .And you calling me a rape apologist while defending Dohyeok is hilarious.... BrokenEchoes

    jeez i wouldn't want my friend to rape someone as revenge. and i find it funny how you still keep lying because not once did i defend dohyeok, you have convinced yourself that anyone who likes him or anyone who is talking about other leads being rapists is defending him, delusions should have a limit too yk.

    maybe you love seeing rape but i don't and therefore i don't want to see anyone getting raped. but by your logic siwoo should be raped too since he raped dohyeok, no? or is he an exception because he is suha's friend or something? funny how your logic isn't applicable to everyone, it's only for people/characters you dislike lol.

    "unfortunately his identity was revealed" oh wait, maybe he shouldn't have drugged and raped someone in the first place? how shocking.

    Bear November 5, 2023 12:24 pm
    If you're expecting Siwoo to be an angelic character with no faults, then I can see why this is confusing to you. It's wrong to rape people. But I can see why he did it.It's just stupid to ignore all the good t... BrokenEchoes

    so i see that you are willing to ignore siwoo's bad side (rape) and focus on dohyeok's bad side (also rape somehow). damn, it's almost as if you are blinded by biasness and embarrassing yourself on the internet. well, if that makes you happy.

    BrokenEchoes November 5, 2023 1:48 pm
    jeez i wouldn't want my friend to rape someone as revenge. and i find it funny how you still keep lying because not once did i defend dohyeok, you have convinced yourself that anyone who likes him or anyone who... Bear

    Oh so now you're NOT defending him? Well then I guess we've been having this lovely little conversation for no reason .

    I guess that's my cue to put an end to this then, since you seem determined go around in circles.

    Hope you have a great day/night either way .

    Bear November 5, 2023 1:52 pm
    Oh so now you're NOT defending him? Well then I guess we've been having this lovely little conversation for no reason . I guess that's my cue to put an end to this then, since you seem determined go around in c... BrokenEchoes

    never defended him in the first place, my intention was always to try to stop people from spreading misinformation anyway.