YEAH i have been thinking that same:D no one force people to read this. peoples weird here in the comments. ╥﹏╥
Did you know minho is based off a real life person the author hates ? She based him off someone she hates. Now just reread the story and see how fucked up it is to write an entire imaginary story of someone you hate getting kidnapped raped tortured blackmailed and manipulated just because you dont like the person. Shes a horrible person and honestly she deserves every last bit of hate and criticism she gets lol
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And she’ll get her karma, but do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her, no, we also don’t know if the person may just be a victim of her crazy imaginations, she could better yet be lying just to get readers or it could be a publicity stunt? So many reasons, so many angles to look at it, does that mean she should fantasize about it, No? What I’m saying is you are just as horrid and as bad, you can try to justify whatever with whatever but the bottom line is this endless circle of hate and vileness started from somewhere and won’t end anytime soon with people like you, the author, and the person she hates too. I’m not self-righteous but no body forced anybody here. P.s I didn’t even know that, now as a reasonable human that I am, if I knew I’d probably ditched the story and never read it, never pick it up, never go near it cause I don’t want to end up saying something I’d regret, as I know I could cause of the level of toxicity and horrendous acts done here.
P.s the fact that you “loled” at the end, Fam. No just No
Agreed, unfortunately you can’t take peoples opinions from them and can not correct them either, can’t change anything I guess.
Lets say it really was a "publicity stunt" the
least she could expect is an outrage at her so
shes really just reaping what she sowed. Now
besides that, people getting mad at her and
wishing the worst upon her for feeling
comfortable enough to fantasize draw someone
she hates (for criticizing her writing btw) getting
raped and tortured is kind of her deserved
karma LOL Keep in mind all the hate comments
are mostly on mangago and in english which i
doubt she would ever care to read. Now
imagine being the person who criticized her
reading her rape fantasy of you for the public to
see LOLim just so baffled you keep making
excuses for her when shes so obviously a bad
person. Its okay I see how youre trying to be
mature about it but there's really no other way
to look at it. The artist isnt even involved with
the writer anymore thats how shitty she is.
Ps i never knew there were rules for when i
could use lol..i will try to be more mindful
Did you read anything I wrote?, when did I make excuses for her, now you’re twisting my words, what are you saying, the idea behind giving different scenarios is so people see things from different angles, that’s the point of having an opinion or a conversation or airing a thought, so don’t isolate one statement or sentence and run with it. And did I condone what she did?, did I applaud it?. Please read what I wrote and stop trying to turn this like I’m supporting her, I’ve made my opinions known and made it as much detailed as possible. If you can’t read to understand and get the point there’s nothing I can do about it for you, and if you’re baffled that I’m asking people to not stoop low and say words and to not be caught up in this vile cycle like the author is, nothing I can do for you either, but please I’ll request you don’t twist my words into something it isn’t as it shows poor quality is having different opinions on something, Thank you.
I think bvalgarisvengali just means the creator deserves the "hate and criticism" not the death threats (I can't co-sign any of this I don't do this shit) "Shes a horrible person and honestly she deserves every last bit of hate and criticism she gets lol"
"but do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her, no, we also don’t know if the person may just be a victim of her crazy imaginations, she could better yet be lying just to get readers or it could be a publicity stunt? So many reasons, so many angles to look at it".
When you said this, it did come out like you were defending her, I know the point of you saying that was to provide different point of views, but it sounded like you were justifying a certainty with possibility, like since this and this could be the reason why she did this, we should understand her and where she's coming from etc, so I guess that's the reason why bvalgarisvengali thought you were defending her
It took me a while to get your point but basically your saying that by sharing why the author made this story (it being based on the person she hates) bvalgarisvengali is continuing the "endless circle of hate and vileness" right (?)
And I only read the last 2 chapters and not the whole story because it's not like I'm forced to anyways (I also only found out about all that stuff after reading the comments)
Also I get that the lol was unnecessary and unprofessional but dawg we ain't in court, it doesn't matter if we use slang language or curses in some illegal website filled with porn
(P.S: I'm just pointing things out after reading your comments, I'm not tryna pick a fight pls don't come after me )
I don't get why you'd assume the most drastic reason for her writing this. There's no evidence or implications this person raped her or did anything atrocious. If that was the case Minho would be her self insert. Point being, regardless, its still fucked up and she deserves criticism.
My honest opinion is, due to the fact both Wookyung and Donna and are self inserts, its exactly what it says on the tin. They didn't believe in her work and she doubted their love for her. There's no story of revenge involved, which would be the case if your theory of them doing something terrible to her was true
"do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her"
Thats a blatant excuse.
I think Tsunmimi's main point was that; since bvalgarisvengali shared that the MC of the story was based on the person the author hated (meaning the author literally made a fictional person based on a real person she hated and "getting them kidnapped raped tortured blackmailed and manipulated") other people sent death threats and literally doxxed the author furthermore continuing the "endless circle of hate and vileness".
"So many reasons, so many angles to look at it, does that mean she should fantasize about it, No? What I’m saying is you are just as horrid and as bad, you can try to justify whatever with whatever but the bottom line is this endless circle of hate and vileness started from somewhere and won’t end anytime soon with people like you, the author, and the person she hates too."
Also I use (") when I'm copy pasting what other people said because I haven't read the whole the story. (just like 2 chapters literally)
To address the first point Dear:
I get that point, which is why I decided to reply too.
Secondly:
“but do we know what the person did to her, if the person raped her or did something horrible to her, no, we also don’t know if the person may just be a victim of her crazy imaginations, she could better yet be lying just to get readers or it could be a publicity stunt? So many reasons, so many angles to look at it, does that mean she should fantasize about it, No”
Dear there are words before and after the part you cut out, this is the full sentence, before I made another one, there’s a comma right after which means it’s a continuation of the conversation. I wasn’t justifying anything, I’m saying since we don’t know we can’t ascertain and even at that it’s still a NO, NO, and she’ll get her karma. Just to clarify it again.
It’s a whole sentence, cutting a part out and just using it, obviously anyone can make anything out of it, the sentences are all meant to be together not separated. It’s like saying I said “I want to Diet” without the “t” it come of as a different thing, one word or sentence cut out can make something out to be what isn’t. But thanks for pointing it out.
Putting out the idea that this person raped her is an attempt at excusing her. You're implying that its a possibility and therefore we can't judge but, we can because that theory has no basis in reality. Throwing the idea that she was raped when there is no inference of that is blatant emotional manipulation. Again, if that were the case, Minho would be her self insert
What we know is she wrote a fantasy/story about someone she knew being raped, tortured, abused, humiliated, and overall miserable.
1.) Please do NOT call me dear, no need to be demeaning
2.) Yeah, but that part of the sentence excuses her actions. The addition changes nothing.
Yeah, I read what was said. But, where's the proof she was doxxed or any harm came to her? Even if she was, just because someone took it too far doesn't mean she's void of criticism.
Its not because Bvalgarisvengali brought it up. The author got that hate because she posted, with her chest out, that she based the character on someone in her life that she didn't like. Making the story based off of a real person and admitting to it, was her choice.
Actually No, No.
The user didn’t cause anything like that or cause people to say that, an no one doxxed the author, I don’t know if they did, it’s the comments of other users I saw, People said that of their own violation, cause they too found out just like this user, so it’s not like the user said it and got people triggered or anything, as for me I didn’t know until I got this information when this person commented. But my main point is the cycle should be stopped or put to an end. And the author will get her Karma but no one need to stoop so low like her or to be vile her, cause it doesn’t make anything better and the whole giving examples thing is just to say this could be a situation we don’t know about, not to condone it, like I said at the end she shouldn’t do such a thing, and she’ll get her karma but people shouldn’t have to be monsters or vile like her too.
Oh I wasn’t demeaning though, I say that a lot when I’m texting, its more respectful than saying babes or something that’ll make others uncomfortable since I don’t know you like that? Or am I mistaken?
Also I wasn’t talking to you, I was addressing @Sam. So it’s them I was calling dear not you though. Thank you
Ohh, okay, I thought you were replying to me due to the lack of sustenance in her comment (I don't mean that in a rude way, Sam, but it was more so an explanation which isn't a bad thing)
Why are y’all wishing death upon an actual real person when you consciously picked up their work and read it by yourself, you weren’t forced, you weren’t cajouled, none of these, no gun to your head, no forceful actions were taken towards you, you saw the signs, read the messed up disclaimers and still read it. Then you came to the comment and say the author should be killed, doxxed, sued, tortured and be raped—are you people okay. If you’re so brave why don’t you doxx yourself first, What is wrong with you?. What is wrong with you people. OMG!!! I’m so appalled with what I’m reading, if you can’t stomach it, drop it and leave. What’s so hard about that? People reason it with your actual brain.
Damn this is loud and says a lot. So what would you wish upon the author of Tomie, and so many other authors that have freaky stories much worse than this.