Hello loves, this is for Morning Diamonds so you dont have to read. The names youve mentioned, i have no idea who they are and i have no idea who you are. I dont know what youre saying but I’ve never stalked someone, i have stable schedules and i love looking at mangaggo comments because everyone hates jaekyung. The person who messaged me was the one who started it, i replied to them kindly that we shouldnt be arguing and should wait for the updates to see more of the story. The way youre already commenting a shit ton of things about me and the other person when I havent even mentioned a name once, how would you know that person is the one im talking about.
Also you say you defended people experiencing shit and that we dont know what were talking about in jinx? Sure ill share why i get to say that this is stockholm and rape? Ive been through sexual harassment and have been raped as a kid, i have been almost kidnapped, stalked by people, i have said stop to a person when about to engage in sex and they didnt, i have experienced some of the things dan went through and i am still studying traumas, mental illnesses and coping mechanisms just to help myself and people around me. i have every right to say that this is fucked up because i have experienced it and been through it many times, you go around copy pasting articles online? I have read books, watched documentaries, studied in college and talk to many experts about these things yet i do not force my idea and genuinely want everyone to just keep reading and love kim dan because he’s basically everyones son at this point.
In every argument and post and engage in, i always remind people to chill out, to be safe, to understand that romanticizing abuse is not normal and should seek professional help. This post was not a lie, not gaslighting nor cyber bullying, but a warning for readers and commentators here that there are genuine odd and obsessive people out there who will go out of their way to send you a private message and spam articles and bullshit at you. So lets stop this now, I appreciate that you are trying to hold your hand out and defend those people but have you met them irl? How can you be certain that they are the victim? How would you be sure if others are ones doing the bullying? You need to relax kid, idk if you’re a child but pls get off these types of channel if you are.
I know this was to MD. MD is busying. I don't think he said you stalked anyone. Our friend told us that was similar to your situation. We seen the topic and your DM. He send you one mangago link and he was polite. He made one comment on the topic but it was from past experience that the OP blocked him. If you are talking about our friend, you were indeed lying and cyberbulling. He did not started anything with you and he did not spam you with articles. He was seeking real conversation. His bad. He did not send you any articles. He had one line about what experts say and experts top opinions. If this was about him, you should had talked to him in DM than lie about him in a topic.
Now you have harassers hanging out on your topic making up things about us because they are so obsessed about us. They stalk and harass. We left them alone bc it is best to leave and let them talk to themselves. Let them harass others until they learn they are not harassing anyone to show everyone they are the harasser of people who left the fake drama of a sick mind game on innocent people. You need to relax kid, idk if you’re a child but pls get off these types of channel if you are. You seriously had no reason to say that and need to learn how to talk to people.
Hm... I disagree that Jinx is the most toxic Yaoi out there, despite how is Jaekyung to Dan.
Easy target, Non Zero Sum, Into the Rose Garden... are a lot more toxic, in the sense that the ML not only rapes and beats the MC but also trows him to get assaulted and gangraped by other dudes, which is absolutely worse by tens.
I don't want to defend particularly this Yaoi, simply be fair.
Jinx isn't the worst, but by being one of the most popular, it looks like the toxicity is over the top.
I have two accounts. My second account will never be on Jinx.
You never tried. You attacked and mocked everyone. Then pretend we did it. You stalked us and then pretended we did when we avoid you. We want nothing to do with you. We don't come at you. We find you creepy and scary how you don't value life. You told them to go kill themselves. TM - 2, Tora -1, Mi -1, I never want to be like you with no morals or values. Just because you have a certain opinion on a stupid story doesn't excuse how you treated us or give you the right to speak the way you do. We may have different views on things, but we can still try to understand the other's party opinion, and vice-versa. You never asked them to explain. They only endured the bullying from you and many others. You can only make fun of us, and that only flames further the situation here. What you did here with your other cyberbully is disgusting. You never tried to get through to us. You were indelicate to us, you made fun of us, telling them to KYS, and stalked them then pretending it was them. TM told you to leave him alone but you still have not. You are one of the reasons why he was very defensive and started to close up. You are here to leech off him again and he is not even here. He is not your toy or your source of amusement. Things only get problematic when people don't listen to each other and ridicule others instead of communicating. You only want to ridicule him with your problematic ways of having conversations. Sane people don't tell people to go kys. Sane people don't stalk people after they are told"you have lost the right to talk about me and to me." Sane people don't do what is happening in this thread towards him, especially over a stupid story. Your rudeness makes you look like an immature person. Your insults, unrealistic name-calling, and behavior make you look insane and we want no part in dealing with you starting back months ago. No one is coming after you. You keep coming after us when we want nothing to do with that craziness. And you want us to be like you? With how you choose to conduct yourself which you believe you are being righteous in your behavior. HARD PASS! (To let you know LIKE ALWAYS this has the words of many people. There are always different writing styles in the posts or written by different people. This is borrowing words from MangaSanctuary, LayLights, Morning Diamonds, and someone else. My first post here had a few lines from articles, it had 5? people writings in it. We have been doing this to see if people would notice but failed. So, we can't have the same writing styles.)
Would the stalkers here leave us alone? It is over. I hope this is my last comment on your lies and stalking us. Why not try to know us and finally ask Tora or TM to explain instead of cyberbullying them? If they are willing? I don't think they care anymore. HML I am not responding to you after this. No one is not until you change your behavior. Stop lying. Leave us alone, if you can only mock and lie. Or spit into insanity until you learn we are gone from your sick mind game.
MangaSanctuary since you have joined. I hope you don't mind. We have used your words a few times.
I don't know the whole matter, but fact is that some - not all, hopefully- commentators who hate Jinx and Jeakyung profusely are, indeed, really rude.
But maybe this is also valid in the other sense.
However, as I witnessed, the mockery, the insults and KYS comes more from the "haters" part. These latters are rude because they absolutely can't have a constructed dialogue or calmer way to discuss when it comes to rape matters. They feel they have the right to speak however they want because rape, a grave topic we agree, give them all the rights to do.
Whenever there's rape in a story, their senses are over the top and can only have inner conversations, every other words they tell are reduced to insults, ridicule, and resorting to bash the other party. Of course, not everyone are like this, but some are indeed very agressive. In this situation a dialogue is impossible, a respectful exchange even less.
This added to one party wanting to forbid the other to comment... is what makes things worse (+ those who hate for the sake of hating)...
Taking in consideration the arguments from all parties, my humble POV is you're all right and wrong about these controversial stories. Let me explain.
BL AND YAOI, ANALYSIS AND HISTORY: a fuck up genre where SA and rape are parts of the process of building a romantic relationship.
In regards of this, you're both right and wrong, because there is romance, then rape/SA involved and entangled all together.
Reminding: BL was created by the fucked up imaginary and phantasms of Japanese people (a patriarcal society), who have a particular view about SA and rape when it comes to relationships; this is shown through their culture, anime... and this aspect is particularly prevalent in medias like MANGA (specially Hentai, Yaoi, Josei.... porn frange of anime) where when the ML SA, forces the Uke, MC, FL this is seen as parts of the relationship's process/build up. "I like you so much that I can't help myself...", "I secretly desire you but since I don't know what to do about it...", "You're so precious, so innocent that I can't help but force you and ruin that innocence..." blabla and other bullshits... In short, you can see the fucked up reasoning and kinda pedo and disturbing mindset behind this. While this was greatly prevalent in Hentai, it takes places in Yaoi (the more NSFW version of BL).
In the end, there is romance, and also SA, rape in these stories that are clearly romanticized in the Japanese BL/Yaoi. One of the first BLs was horrific and contains a lot of rape despite its cute and shojo art, it had gained the popularity we know. From this, the BL genre developped into the fictions we read.
Korean authors who produce today Yaoi grew up reading Japanese Yaoi.
This is not to say that rape in these fictions is excusable, but to remind that in these stories, rape and SA are yes, romanticized and parts of the roots core of BL. You can see this as the evil root of the BL tree.
Since Asian Eastern (Japan)'s view on rape, SA... differs from the West's, this results in these endless fights between readers, contributing into making this kind of stories even more popular.
Since these romance and rape are so entangled together in BL and the gravity of such mixture mostly brushed off, if you were to fight over this, better to just anihilate the whole BL. End.
Some bozo here kept messaging me and sending me articles about how “this type of relationship isnt abusive and it’s actually okay” “this isnt rape” “this isnt stockholm syndrome, dan doesnt have feelings for jaekyung” bruh are we even reading the same story? Not abusive? Our first few chapters kept showing the constant actions of jaekyung literally punching a sparring partner to a pulp, smashing a sex partner face first into a wall, when dan asked him to slow down or stop he gets angry, shoved dans face into the bed to shut him up and says something along the lines of “you wont be going home in peace if you keep stalling or want me to stop”
I am allowed to be upset, to comment, to hate a character and to hate whats happening and still keep reading because i want to know where the story goes. Be chill whoever you are, that behavior is specifically why you were banned from commenting on the post.