Doll

Brooo she literally didn't know only Joker did who also was shocked to the core when he find out their prothesis were made out of the bones
She doesn't know the whole story, to her it's like she lost everything and she searches for an explanation which is to her that the phantomhives must be at fault. Let that poor girl be

They still murdered and kidnapped people so what's your point? Are you going easy on her because she's a child?

She did know what they were going to do that night and she sometimes companied them when they killed and kidnapped people, stop making excuses for her. She knew what her family was doing.

She didn't know what Tom was doing but as for the kidnapping and killing people witnesses: She and the others were indoctrinated to think they were saving those kids and witnesses were bad people. She and the others grew up thinking that Tom scum was their saviour so she thought they'd be saving children by bringing them to tom. It's something about human psyche that she really got screwed over

She knows what the orphanage was doing with the children too, she's not a poor little victim here. She knows what they were doing is terrible but she ignores it and obeys like always. So no I'm not going to let the "poor" girl be. This poor girl harms children and killed people just like the Phantomhives. Plus, the Phantomhives killed out of self defense and to protect Lizzy.

Also I mean Joker himself said the others didn't know, he was shook over the prothesis thing and the others said they never knew what joker did when going to Tom (or even knowing he went to Tom at all).

Plus that night, yes she thought they had to protect their family and siblings (which was a big misunderstanding)+ She only went to Tom, to look after Joker and tell him what happened

And just even if they knew, they were indoctrinated and suffering some kind of Stockholm's syndrom (Joker as he knew definitely), they'd have to find out their supposed hero is a horrible person, so of course they would be in denial. Not knowing what to do and trying to protect eachother.
It's just the judgment part of their brain doesn't work anymore. I just want to say not to go too hard on her, she srsly just need to calm down and hear everyone out

Doll and the other children are victim's of that Piper scum too.

She only says the phantomhives are evil because she can't think straight and desperately searches for a reason. She tries coping which obviously doesn't work. Also the Undertaker is using her now so he probably told her sh about ciel and sebs too.

Um okay? Like I said they still murdered and kidnapped people so why are you trying to justify what they did? Your comments make no sense. I agree that they were victims of Kelvin and didn't know what happens to the children but they are also predators too and they turned a blind eye to it all.

Yeah yeah I'm not trying to justify what they did sorry. It's just that it sounds like they all are having fun or something and that those kiddos are truly evil. It was horrible what they had done and of course they can't blame Ciel for having killed them, because they did same shit too but as she is now she really needs help to face the truth and get over it. She truly has lost it and can't make any reasonable desicions as of right now.

I don't think anything can get through to her or help her , all she wants to do is kill the Phantomhives to avenge her family.

That's definitely were you're right, releasing her by definite death would be the only way. Now the question is what's going to happen with snake, I'm worried. Just when he made new friends

Well, he's dead.

:(