im sticking around for the plot, but it feels really gross reading r*pe that is meant to b...

Kittykat October 12, 2023 5:26 am

im sticking around for the plot, but it feels really gross reading r*pe that is meant to be smut. its framed in a way that is supposed to be enjoyable to the reader but its really just brutal r*pe. i dont understand how BL authors can keep making this stuff, like do they not feel disgusted? cuz all i feel in those smut scenes is now awful and traumatized that poor guy must be, being assaulted by four men. could have easily writted a character who liked sex, or left out the graphic depictions of r*pe.

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    Gawk Gawk 101 October 12, 2023 11:52 am

    Smut isn't meant to be Enjoyed though It means the story contains S*xual Content

    But pointing the Authors are something specifically BL Authors as they are not the only ones that creates Stories with r*pe (I mean use more General Term like "Authors")

    R*pe are commonly seen on Smuts(Stories with s*xual Content) actually (Or it's just me)

    These story is Psychological Thriller so expect more and more Suffering and Trauma.

    If you ask me (Just in case)
    I like this story, More and More Trauma, cuz for me sometimes , I get bored or Just got immune with toxicity

    Kittykat October 12, 2023 1:52 pm
    Smut isn't meant to be Enjoyed though It means the story contains S*xual ContentBut pointing the Authors are something specifically BL Authors as they are not the only ones that creates Stories with r*pe (I mea... Gawk Gawk 101

    you can tell by the way the smut is portrayed that its meant to be enjoyed. its common in BL. its supposed to be "hot"

    Gawk Gawk 101 October 12, 2023 2:36 pm
    you can tell by the way the smut is portrayed that its meant to be enjoyed. its common in BL. its supposed to be "hot" Kittykat

    But the Smut itself means that the Material contains S*xual Stuff.

    It's on the reader to judge if it is "Hot" or not

    Some of the readers consider one thing as "Hot" some don't

    Kittykat October 12, 2023 9:03 pm
    But the Smut itself means that the Material contains S*xual Stuff.It's on the reader to judge if it is "Hot" or notSome of the readers consider one thing as "Hot" some don't Gawk Gawk 101

    im not gonna argue anymore but its very clear by the framing and tone, media literacy is important.

    emma October 12, 2023 11:12 pm

    It's not really the creator of the manwhas fault they are just basing it off the original novel. I also think that the r@pe in there isn't really meant to be enjoyed it just adds to the character of the guide.

    pennyinheaven October 12, 2023 11:52 pm

    I don’t think this particular series framed the guiding sessions which were basically r@pe as enjoyable smut. What are you saying?

    ThisIsFine October 13, 2023 2:18 am
    I don’t think this particular series framed the guiding sessions which were basically r@pe as enjoyable smut. What are you saying? pennyinheaven

    It’s there bc people enjoy reading it- it’s what draws in the readers, it’s not just some random shit they put in the story with no meaning behind it

    Kittykat October 13, 2023 3:24 am
    It’s there bc people enjoy reading it- it’s what draws in the readers, it’s not just some random shit they put in the story with no meaning behind it ThisIsFine

    oh yeah i know, though the author likely enjoys that content too if theyre okay creating it. its sad really. cuz like ive said, there are absolutely ways of depicting r*pe in a respectful way that isnt p*rn essentially. or just making a mc who likes sex who isnt depicted as a "whore"

    Kittykat October 13, 2023 3:26 am
    I don’t think this particular series framed the guiding sessions which were basically r@pe as enjoyable smut. What are you saying? pennyinheaven

    it totally was... ppl in the comments saying it was hot and a "4p" when it was gang r*pe. the authors know who theyre appealing to. many other webtoons have depicted r*pe in more respectful ways, ie not having it be gratitous and graphic, framing it differently, etc. its a delicate subject

    pennyinheaven October 13, 2023 4:44 am
    it totally was... ppl in the comments saying it was hot and a "4p" when it was gang r*pe. the authors know who theyre appealing to. many other webtoons have depicted r*pe in more respectful ways, ie not having ... Kittykat

    The usual way of fetishized r@pe is when the bottom hates it AND then eventually likes the sex, somehow forgetting that he was being r@ped. In this series, the bottom never liked it, it’s a horrible experience before, during and after.

    If readers find this hot, then that’s their problem. Being tagged as smut, meaning showing graphic sex does not automatically mean normalizing and fetishizing r@pe. It just means it’s not censored or R18 vs non-smut which shows nothing at all. Under smut, there’s also censored or uncensored version for penises.

    pennyinheaven October 13, 2023 4:52 am
    It’s there bc people enjoy reading it- it’s what draws in the readers, it’s not just some random shit they put in the story with no meaning behind it ThisIsFine

    Enjoying the scene is personal from one reader to another but it’s different how the author portrayed it. Reading so many titles over the years, shitty and good ones, I can tell the author didn’t portray the sessions as normalizing or fetishizing r@pe. It was horrible for the bottom before during and after. Bottom looks gaunt and traumatized after the guiding sessions. If it the author meant it as an enjoyable one, then the bottom should enjoy the sex eventually and act satisfied/blushing or something after sex.

    • みなみ • October 17, 2023 3:35 am
    Enjoying the scene is personal from one reader to another but it’s different how the author portrayed it. Reading so many titles over the years, shitty and good ones, I can tell the author didn’t portray th... pennyinheaven

    I agree I agree. Just because it's a fictional book and smut or whatever doesn't always mean that the stories should be all sunshines and rainbows. Lots of stories is actually a mirror of what actually happens irl, it just shows how toxic this world is. The author writing psychological stuffs like this doesn't automatically mean that they're into r@pe kink.

    pennyinheaven October 17, 2023 2:19 pm
    I agree I agree. Just because it's a fictional book and smut or whatever doesn't always mean that the stories should be all sunshines and rainbows. Lots of stories is actually a mirror of what actually happens ... • みなみ •

    Yeah. Although the author is going for the romantic route for the two main characters, I gotta give it to the author for not changing what the guiding sessions are. They are horrible for the guide through and through. The two main characters will seem to develop some trust or dependency as they need and care for each other. Eventually love each other but definitely not in the most romantic way other readers would expect.

    Kittykat October 17, 2023 11:38 pm
    The usual way of fetishized r@pe is when the bottom hates it AND then eventually likes the sex, somehow forgetting that he was being r@ped. In this series, the bottom never liked it, it’s a horrible experienc... pennyinheaven

    yes, smut is graphic sex ment to be hot. not r*pe. thats more horror.

    Kittykat October 17, 2023 11:39 pm
    I agree I agree. Just because it's a fictional book and smut or whatever doesn't always mean that the stories should be all sunshines and rainbows. Lots of stories is actually a mirror of what actually happens ... • みなみ •

    i mean the way its framed its very likely. media literacy.

    Kittykat October 17, 2023 11:40 pm
    Enjoying the scene is personal from one reader to another but it’s different how the author portrayed it. Reading so many titles over the years, shitty and good ones, I can tell the author didn’t portray th... pennyinheaven

    r*pe should never be portrayed like this. it shouldnt be made to be smut. it numbs us to it.

    pennyinheaven October 18, 2023 12:41 am
    r*pe should never be portrayed like this. it shouldnt be made to be smut. it numbs us to it. Kittykat

    Portrayed as what? As it is? Jeez.

    pennyinheaven October 18, 2023 12:44 am
    r*pe should never be portrayed like this. it shouldnt be made to be smut. it numbs us to it. Kittykat

    If you don’t get or like what the author is doing then stop reading. It’s as simple as that.

    Kittykat October 18, 2023 4:06 am
    If you don’t get or like what the author is doing then stop reading. It’s as simple as that. pennyinheaven

    im allowed to criticize. there are serious problems in the BL community that need to be talked about

    Kittykat October 18, 2023 4:06 am
    Portrayed as what? As it is? Jeez. pennyinheaven

    no it shouldnt be so graphic. studies have shown graphic portrayal makes us numb and less empathetic to actual victims