i think mingwa had almost the right idea with alex. he could've been a really convincing c...

Uhm what? "pleasure too intense"??? Just because you can draw cute hearts around the scene, does not absolve it of the crime being depicted. Rape is rape. Violence is violence. If you are into torture/rape/victimising/crime stories - you do you. Dark & macabre appeals to many readers. Nothing wrong with that.

However, do not come here pretending it is otherwise and telling us it isn't what it is.

Also, a tiny side note: (and saying this as a gay guy) uke/seme relationships as depicted in 90% of BL manga are absolute garbage and this is NOT how actual gay guys behave, think or feel.

Also, there are a ton of BL manga that depict healthy relationships without equating rape with love.

Hey....not trying to disagree with you because I completely agree with you....Fiction is fiction and reality is reality.....but their are relationships in this world that do include abuse or rape.....but the victim is either forced to live with the rapist/abuser or they eventually start loving their abusers themselves to get away from the mental torture and just accept.....They are nit that rare in some areas and they do exist.....Their are even relationships that are very toxic and messed up at first but turn out fine at the end.....life is messed up and never sweet like a fairytale but it's still life......so I think that some or maybe many messed up manhwa like psycological and toxic ones show the reality of those type of relationships....I think they show us that a relationship can be messed up too....It's just how I look at those messed up manhwas cause life is never easy and fair.....♡

Im not reading all that because you and i both know bl authors do not depict bl how real people are lets be serious

And compare that to the amount that dont? And again we are not talking about real life this is bl and yes it is 100% true that a lot of the times stop in bl doesnt mean shit and a uke will be like “stop it feels funny” seme will say “but you like it here” and then uke does waterfountain and theres a difference between stories like that and jinx where dan is literally forced from start to finish. Every bl reader knows this.

I agree....some "stop" are just the uke feeling fear or weird or a little uncomfortable if it's their first time.....and the seme helps them....it's not a solid "stop" like some actual rape manhwa.....

Yes exactly thats my point and for some reason some ppl in this thread are acting like thats not the case. Bl is not real life and sometimes stop doesnt mean stop in bl which might be messed up but its true no one is making excuses for rape theres a difference between actual rape like jinx and “stop it feels weird” waterfountain happens in bl and thats just the fact

If you read trash and justify it as BL norm... is fucked up.

If you like & enjoy reading about rape, domination, abuse, etc., you do you, nothing wrong with that.

But at least be honest about what you are reading.

The way you are making things up cause absolutely no one said that

What have I made up? You are the one waving away depiction of rape & abuse by "In the world of bl thats not how it is the ukes will say stop whenever the pleasure is too intense" ...

If you like that kind of content - again, you do you, but stop coming here insisting that it is somehow NOT rape or abuse.

Well no one said that again you said stop means stop no matter what which is true irl however in bl its not the same thats not waving shit away that is the truth like clearly you dont know anything and just mad to be mad cause theres a differncr between rape in bl and stop its too intense like you talking about abuse and rape when thats bot the case and again its even in the most fluffy bl i bet if u name 5 right now theres at least one chapter like that and ur fooling urself if u think differently learn to seperate things

wow just wow. In denial much? Do pull your head out of your own backside.