I really don't care how toxic he is

sorata September 24, 2023 12:04 pm

I just fucking love him. And I see his character development already, because when the manhua started he was all over the place, fucking different people and didn't give a shit about any of them. But when Dan appeared, he slowly became both possesive and obsessive over him, helping him with the dept, letting him stay in his house (ok, I know that he had ulterior motives, because he believes that good sex before his matches will help him win) and know he is marking his territory, by letting Heesung witness that sex scene, like "Dude, get your fucking hands off of what's mine". He wouldn't do that for any other dude he had sex with. If he didn't care at all, he would just find someone else compatible enough to help him with his jinx.

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    sorata September 25, 2023 11:41 am
    You dont even understand that it's rape reread this whole thing and actually think through and you will realize it's rape.Yeah pretty privilege is real here and stop defending that man and getting your panties ... diestodumbways

    So, we can't read what we want and like it??? I don't even remember why this whole discussion started in the first place...Because I like JK?? I don't have the right to like him? And you contradict yourself by saying that you will read the comment section occassionally...what the fuck for? you don't like the manga and you want to ruin the mood of every other person here that likes it? you know you use the word rape a lot and i don't know if you really grasp the gravity of its meaning...God, I don't care anymore...Do what you want...I'm done replying anymore

    diestodumbways September 25, 2023 12:33 pm
    So, we can't read what we want and like it??? I don't even remember why this whole discussion started in the first place...Because I like JK?? I don't have the right to like him? And you contradict yourself by ... sorata

    1. Why the fuck are you replying if you're done?
    2. When did I say you couldn't like it?
    stop fucking jumping to conclusions calm down take a breath and read my fucking comment PROPERLY
    3. i clearly mentioned that the whole reason i replied to this comment was because he barely had any character development
    4. I can do whatever the fuck I want?? Girl the fuck- i am not the only one critcising here there are other people too lmfao don't get so butthurt when people don't have the same opinions as you (also where am i contradicting myself? I said I have stopped reading this manhwa from now onwards but I will just check the comments occasionally i need your permission for that?)
    5. I will call a rapist a rapist. Tf bro-

    sorata September 25, 2023 7:24 pm
    1. Why the fuck are you replying if you're done?2. When did I say you couldn't like it?stop fucking jumping to conclusions calm down take a breath and read my fucking comment PROPERLY3. i clearly mentioned that... diestodumbways

    This is getting on my nerves...Really??? You may not be the only one criticizing, but you are the only one desrespecting the other peoples' opinion! Tell me I'm wrong, no wait give it to me by counting down your reasons, clearly you like doing that very much. I was saying my opinion and i wasn't being desrespectful to anyone, I didn't answer to any other opinion I read in here out of respect, but you were the one calling me blind, if i remember correctly. And honestly, I don't give a fuck if you keep reading this manhua or the comments or not. And yes, I did say that i will not reply anymore, but this is getting far more annoying than i imagined. So, for the love of God, just stop wanting to have the last word and respect that others have different opinions than you. Thank you and goodbye...

    Torakaze September 25, 2023 10:33 pm
    I mean good you stopped, just stop if somebody says no it wont fucking kill you to do so. Just ask if they're okay.Ch3 AGAIN. Dan clearly wasn't comfortable with it and even said it hurts what do i need to expl... diestodumbways

    I am reading this over and catching up. I don't know how to address you, your name is ridiculous. It degrades you. DTDW, from your first comment to here, your performance has been poor. You said in your second comment you don't want to start a fight but that has what you have been doing since your first comment. "do you realise that he is a fucking rapist or are like blind to that too?"
    - That is argumentive, they are blind for not seeing it your way. You can't control yourself or your triggers to where you insult and try to harm others who think differently from you.
    - Manhwaspicy and Sorata are the target audience. They have a deeper understanding of the story.
    - We are not the target audience. The difference between me and you. I am hostile. I am not forcing a POV, I am not letting my emotions control me. I am not cussing. I am not degrading others. I am not disrespecting other's opinions or them. You are disrespectful. You are gaslighting that is abusive behavior. I can understand the story because I am good at analyzing. I know you have the details wrong and not seeing the story as it. Man, I wished I had that comment from TMSM.... I need to find TMSM's rainbow comment. lol How did he put The story: There is a rainbow: You: Meh! It is too mulit-colored. Call me with it is dark. While it is negative and toxic, you are making it worse and not talking about jinx. "Your opinion doesn't change what's true." He is an abuser, not a rapist. He did not stay with Dan was his body is good. They are a contractual relationship, not a romantic relationship. They are not boyfriends. Why did you think Dan satisfied him? It is not about his jinx that is why JK changed it or it would to his jink. You have missed the subtle character development. And no foreplay isn't why Dan was fainting. Why take one puzzle piece from one puzzle and try to smash it into another puzzle? You will not fool the real target audience that has read and understand the story better than you.

    "I mean good you stopped," No, you have no right to say that. I should not stop to a no in pleasure. It is not that kind of no. She said if she meant no she would tell me. we work it out. Communication is the key. You missed the point she didn't want me to stop. You missed the point a no is always a no to sex.
    Ch 3 He was uncomfortable but you are missing many things too. IF you have to resort to insults and name-calling you know you lose in the debate/ conversation so how. When you insult like that you are giving the win to the other person. Since your first comment, you have lost here. You have expressed you can't have a civil conversation or have any rational arguments. You know it that is why you behave so ill-mannered.
    You wrote me 1-4, I see them twisting things or not understanding me but really " you're no one for me to explain how was she raped." How did you reach that conclusion? That shows your intentions. You are exposing yourself here. you are embarrassing yourself too. There was not logical reason to write that but to try to discredit me and that was on something I don't know. How ridiculous. That is abusive or reading issues.

    "If somebody says NO and you continue. It's RAPE. If no to sex, yes, and Jinx happens differently. what happens after?" (didn't understand this)

    When Dan says no... what happens after that changes it.

    "ch 3 AGAIN, he forced Dan's head on the mattress and said smthn along the lines of "I'll crush your skull shut the fuck up" idk i forgot read that fucking ch."
    now read ch 4, where Joo stops and checks on him in concern. You are cherry-picking to your POV and dismissing the real contents of the story or understanding the characters.
    I haven't proved your point.
    rape is your pov. The story's pov isn't rape. But this isn't forcing you into a POV or calling you blind or anything negative. I don't find cussing cool or educated depending on how it is done. I find you trying to be cool and how you are using them here would seem to be a compensatory for your shortcomings.

    Torakaze September 25, 2023 11:24 pm
    1. Why the fuck are you replying if you're done?2. When did I say you couldn't like it?stop fucking jumping to conclusions calm down take a breath and read my fucking comment PROPERLY3. i clearly mentioned that... diestodumbways

    Overall, your comments are aggressive or domineering and carry the implication of a compensatory for shortcomings. You are not resolved or come to an understanding. You are dismissing the story and the arguments that disprove you. You are here to impose. It stems from your insecurities and immaturity. Haters never win. They are cowardly people behind a screen trying to hurt others to feel better about themselves due to they have miserable lives or are sadistic. You are saying you hate something about you and you have seen something here that you wished you could be and attacked instead of joining and filling that hole in your heart.

    "Rape isn't my pov but something he did to dan. He didn't have his full consent. Fine maybe not a rapist but a sexual assaulter nonetheless and it doesnt make him any better."

    Rape is your pov, you are forcing it on others. In none of my comments should give you the impression that his behavior is better since it is not rape. What are you thinking?

    "Or sexual assaulter (since thats your POV)" Rape is a form of sexual assault.. It is not my pov... it is yours too. Basically everyone but the ones that don't see any SA abusive.
    The one who has no argument is you. You have no strong argument. You have no credibility. You can't fool people who understand the story.

    "ass paragraphs if joo was ugly as fuck and didn't have a great build." BAD AGRUMENT.
    I am straight. He is not a woman.
    TM is into Dan and finds Joo dull and the story dull.
    Rose doesn't like him or the story, and a rape survivor. You would find long messages from all of us with different opinions saying this is not rape but SA and abusive and defending the story.
    "You dont even understand that it's rape reread this whole thing and actually think it through and you will realize it's rape.: FORCING YOUR POV. IF you read the whole thing you will realize it is not rape. I read the story many times. I read the story with the rape pov in mind but it does not hold water. No one is defending him and they can call out people mislabeling him.
    It seems you keep coming back because you were jealous people were bonding over something they liked and you want that bonding or something else you see here. Your words and actions reveal, so much about you. I think you have many deep-rooted issues to behave like this over a trivial opinion on a trivial story. Why are you trying to silence the real target audience? why are you jealous?

    Think before you respond because I will read: The Beast Must Die: I will see you think it is a "masterpiece. I just love how messed up it is" I will take the story out of context to show you what you are doing here. I could do this on: Karasugaoka Don't be shy!! or Kiraide Isasete. You read toxic stories. How do you have a bad interpretation of Jinx?

    I can do it now... You are basically trying to get us to believe the uke was raped by the seme in Kiraide Isasete and that is his daughter. The uke was raped but not by the seme and that is not his daughter. We are telling you the seme did not rape the uke. yet, we are "defending" the seme and trying not to make him look worse when we are just defending the story. You are right, your opinion doesn't change what's true. Rape is an inaccurate pov.

    diestodumbways September 26, 2023 12:12 am
    Overall, your comments are aggressive or domineering and carry the implication of a compensatory for shortcomings. You are not resolved or come to an understanding. You are dismissing the story and the argument... Torakaze

    The beast must die is under the psychological tag and not under the romance tag.
    Kiraide isasete and the karasugaoka the male lead didn't rape them. It's not being romanticized. I am not going to explain myself further on jinx or anything else.

    diestodumbways September 26, 2023 12:41 am
    This is getting on my nerves...Really??? You may not be the only one criticizing, but you are the only one desrespecting the other peoples' opinion! Tell me I'm wrong, no wait give it to me by counting down you... sorata

    Look.. I will keep it simple if I seemed aggressive or disrespectful that wasn't exactly my intention, I usually come off like that and I am trying to change that. I also didn't mean to impose my opinions like uhh the dude with the blue pfp said. I apologise for that to you and everyone.

    Torakaze September 26, 2023 12:56 am
    The beast must die is under the psychological tag and not under the romance tag. Kiraide isasete and the karasugaoka the male lead didn't rape them. It's not being romanticized. I am not going to explain myself... diestodumbways

    Jaekyung has not raped Dan. I don't focus on fantasy stories that "romanticize" rape or sa because I can differentiate between fantasy and reality. They are just entertainment and for people to leave their lives for a bit. They don't hurt real people.

    I care more about reality and real rape survivors. It seems the ones on the rape culture and against romanticizing rape don't care about real rape survivors. They continue to prove this on this page over and over for how they treat real-life SA and rape survivors but be against rape culture and romanticizing rape. If they actually cared they would be caring about the survivors.

    https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14494601/?page=3
    Rose told the OP she was a rape survior on page 1.
    The Op tells the rape survivor on page 2

    "I'll shove my bring dick onto your mouth so you can shut the fuck up"

    and again on page 2
    Fyi BelovedRose, Idgaf if you got raped. I couldn't care any less. If you need sympathy, then ask for your therapist

    Let me remind you in their original post they said "ppl who enjoy and find the latest chapter attractive are literally concerning and need therapy."

    They literally don't care. They are here to hurt others and made themselves look like a rapist. They are rape apologist.


    Here she does not say she is a rape survivor but she gets this treatment either way.
    https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14485105/
    a hater to her "Ur a fckn weirdo rape apologist. Your dumbass is trying to say that coercive, violent, intercourse where someone has revoked consent or not even given it isn't rape. Words don't mean different things just 'cause you want to excuse someone's behavior. I don't know why you are so opposed to calling a rapist a rapist. Maybe because social context makes rapists seem more evil to you than "sa abuser" does but it doesn't change the fact that it IS rape. Sa abuse? Rape falls under sexual assault. I'd get next to that fact or defect from society babes."

    I care more about her and how she is treated than stories that romanticize rape and SA. The ones that are the loudest about romanticized rape/sa abuse seem to not really care about it all. Nor do they understand why or take time to understand. It is like they feel guilty for liking it. I know enough this is not about the tags or what type of story it is. if it was Rose would be attacked by so many for months now.
    One day you will look back and be embarrassed of yourself.

    Torakaze September 26, 2023 1:32 am
    Look.. I will keep it simple if I seemed aggressive or disrespectful that wasn't exactly my intention, I usually come off like that and I am trying to change that. I also didn't mean to impose my opinions like ... diestodumbways

    Thank you. I am glad you are working on that. Tora means Tiger. Kaze means wind. Both can be gentle or a powerful force. I know I am blunt.

    I do want to apologize to you for my last reply I was not saying that about you. I realize that you could get that interpretation after I walked away. I did not make that clear in that reply. I was tunnel vision on how Rose was treated. I needed to step back. I was talking about the past experiences on here. You have only mentioned it. It really wasn't about you but what you said. Let's say I was sending a message talking to you but not about you. I am sorry if you took that as 'to you.' It was also shared to let people see how a rape survivor has been treated over opinions or whatever that one situation was.

    sorata September 26, 2023 8:47 am
    Look.. I will keep it simple if I seemed aggressive or disrespectful that wasn't exactly my intention, I usually come off like that and I am trying to change that. I also didn't mean to impose my opinions like ... diestodumbways

    It's ok, don't worry, and i'm sorry too if i spoke harsh without thinking! All good and take care!

    Manhwaspicy September 26, 2023 3:08 pm
    Look.. I will keep it simple if I seemed aggressive or disrespectful that wasn't exactly my intention, I usually come off like that and I am trying to change that. I also didn't mean to impose my opinions like ... diestodumbways

    Okay now everyone apologizing, guess I have to.

    I'm sorry if I sounded rude. That wasn't my intention at all. I simply wanted to have a conversation yeah♡.

    sorata September 26, 2023 4:59 pm
    Okay now everyone apologizing, guess I have to.I'm sorry if I sounded rude. That wasn't my intention at all. I simply wanted to have a conversation yeah♡. Manhwaspicy

    You are awesome dear as you are!!

    Manhwaspicy September 26, 2023 6:03 pm
    You are awesome dear as you are!! sorata

    So are you! I followed you back♡.