No i dont like the manhwa why would I give it a one rating otherwise.
It's the most basic ass manhwa with the most basic ass plotline there are millions better than this. I just love seeing people defend Joo without no strong opinion.
And i neither disrespected your opinion neither was i sarcastic about it i just stated that he is a rapist.
Who said I am blaming Dan??? Are you fucking sane? I said according to your opinion if I'm not mistaken...Oh GOD! Why are you reading this kind of manhuas??? Did you not read the other one of the same author? And I don't need you to tell me that when someone says no it's rape...Please get a grip...I'm just saying that if he wanted to escape he could...He is not a prisoner at some dungeon, waiting for the mother fucker who rapes him to come and feed him and also he has Heesung, why doesn't he tell him something? I think he is powerful enough to help him, he is a well-known actor for fucks sake
Then don't keep reading it
because you fucking said that Dan got a hard and that's why it's not rape. WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU EVEN TRYING TO SAY.
He cannot say it to Heesung because he indebted to Jaekyung and he is SCARED of him for fucks sake-
Bro wasn't raping him till the recent chapters until ch 34 dropped and he did this fucked up shit AGAIN.
AND no I didn't read Bj alex i have no interest in that manhwa whatsoever
I explained it in my comment while replying to Manhwaspicy read it or dont fucking do that idfc.
That's what i'm trying to say...the victim shouldn't feel indebted to anyone that does harm to him...and if you didn't read Bj Alex why did you think that this one would be any different? Just a question, with every respect, do you watch movies that show these kind of behaviours and if yes, are you saying the same stuff to the ones that are watching with you? Do you criticize a movie, like if it shows rape, then the screenwriter is gloryfing rape or something? Because if you do, then i believe the right genre for you is shounen ai and not yaoi. I am just enjoying the manhua man, I don't really care if it shows something disturbing or not, if something is beautifully drawn and has flow and storyline, i consider it good. It's all fiction afterall, no need to turn it to reality...
We are not in his situation and don't know how it is like.
Also I don't have a problem with rape.
Yk what I have a problem with? Romanticization of it. And yk what's even more problematic? This manhwa is under the romance tag and not the psychological tag.
Psychological I can understand because it's supposed to fucked up that's the point there is no romance but if it's under the romance tag the love interest in now way should be raping the mc.
And if you like it like it lol idec but I don't understand why people defend joo by saying he isn't a rapist. He is.
Also fiction doesn't mean it's okay, if it's not okay to show racism, homophobia, misogyny, misandry and stuff like that then neither should be romanticization of rape and abuse, under the romance/dark romance tag.
Have a good day/night/afternoon/evening.
Husband and wife during sex.
wife moans oh yeah, oh no.
The husband stops.
The wife gets angry and slaps her husband.
"Why did you stop!"
"You said no"
"I did?"
True story. She slapped me. For stopping when she said No. No doesn't always mean no.
It is no to sex means no.
You are too chronically online .. It is an insult. it shows you are losing.
1. Are you sure that is the only reason?
2. I am not following this well... to understand this point but I only read a few comments. I have read more.
3. IS he?
4. right you can't control your body. If your friend was SA then how was she raped? Rape is SA but SA isn't just rape. If she was molested and had an orgasm, how was she raped?
Triggered????
Talk to people.
If somebody says NO and you continue. It's RAPE. If no to sex, yes, and Jinx happens differently. what happens after?
If somebody says STOP and you continue. It's RAPE. If you pay attention JK stops then continues. read the story. What happens after?
If somebody says IT HURTS and you continue. It's RAPE. No.
If somebody says YES because of their pressurized situation and you continue. It's RAPE.
No, Sexual Coercion is SA. LOOK IT UP. IF that is what you are meaning here.
If somebody is SILENT and you continue. It's RAPE. WHAT??????? Have you had sex before?
CONSENT ISN'T NEGOTIABLE. IF SOMEBODY SAYS NO YOU STOP.
You have never been in a relationship before. Communication is Key. You talk to your partner. In the conversation, they can change their minds or not.
I will counter each and every point of why Jaekyung didn't rape Dan. I can crush any arguments you have since you are cherry-picking to your POV rather than keeping to the story's POV. You don't seem to understand the story, you don't seem to understand the difference between SA, Rape, or sexual coercion. All of them are SA. But sexual coercion isn't rape. Molestation and attempted rape isn't rape. There are different kinds of no's and stops in sex. It is best to know about something before talking about it. Maybe have some relationship experience before making another reply
He is a sexual abuser. The rapist bit is your opinion.
We are not defending him by saying he is not a rapist because you see rape. Rape is your POV.
It is not okay to claim we are defending him when we are defending the story. How are we defending him? You are adding elements.
I mean good you stopped, just stop if somebody says no it wont fucking kill you to do so. Just ask if they're okay.
Ch3 AGAIN. Dan clearly wasn't comfortable with it and even said it hurts what do i need to explain more go read it.
Yes chronically online yes it's supposed to be an insult who exactly is losing here, are you saying I am or they are?
1. Yes he is indebted to Joo because he paid off of his bills (other reason being he doesn't have a place to stay)
2. Black card is like well basically given to the richest of the richest people in SK you can search more about it
3. If he isn't a black belt in mma (I forgot) then he is a champion of heavyweight smthn and he has been keeping that record for quite a while
4. My bad yes she got raped, but you're no one for me to explain how was she raped. And so I won't explain further. I cannot share anything online.
"If somebody says NO and you continue. It's RAPE. If no to sex, yes, and Jinx happens differently. what happens after?" (didn't understand this)
ch 3 AGAIN, he forced Dan's head on the mattress and said smthn along the lines of "I'll crush your skull shut the fuck up" idk i forgot read that fucking ch.
Yes, not fully. They're saying it hurts, basically you stop... another way of saying stop and you're not stopping borderline SA/rape.
Fine still a crime.
I meant in a situation that if somebody doesn't want to have sex and they have stated multiple times that they dont want this and they just go silent after sometime (could be sa or rape i should have elaborated)
No, I haven't I am a minor (old enough dw)
Yeah communicate by STOPPING mid sex. You proved my point wdym?
Thanks for telling me sexual coercion isn't rape, ik the difference between rape and sa just slipped off of my mind.
I am seeing it in the story's pov and it's rape. and he is an abuser too. so. whatthefuck.
When did i specifically say YOU are defending him I have seen lot's of people defend him (esp on insta)
Rape isn't my pov but something he did to dan. He didn't have his full consent. Fine maybe not a rapist but a sexual assaulter nonetheless and it doesnt make him any better.
Or sexual assaulter (since thats your POV)
I'm sorry for the late reply.
You're correct about being with that guy for months but it's clear Jk is interested in Dan. The fact he took the doctor's advice to treat Dan better is already a green light. The fact he visited his grandma is already a green light, the fact he paid all his debt and let him stay in his home is already a green light. Do you want more? Of course, I'll say more. The fact he saved Dan from those loan sharks(the real rapists) is already a green light. The fact he wants Dan only to himself is a green light. The fact that Heesung said Jk doesn't let anyone stay in his home and he let Dan stay there is already a green light, the fact that Jk is ready to snap Heesung’s neck in two for dating Dan is already a green light. The fact that Jk is going to such lengths to claim Dan as his is already a green light.
The guy is interested in Dan.
Face it. At this point, he doesn't just see Dan as a toy, because if he did, he wouldn't be doing all those things for Dan. He cares for Dan and he might not admit it but he does. Face it.
Dan said ‘no’ and the next, he's asking to go gentler??? Dan said ‘no’ and the next he's asking to go slower??? Dan said ‘no’ and the next he's clinging to Jk???
Dan is asking how to prep himself? Dan is asking Jk to teach him? Dan is asking for more money??? and you say there is no consent at all??? Jk gave him a choice to leave thrice.
Jk always stopped when he noticed Dan crying or shaking or breathing poorly(chap 4) and when he asked what the matter was, what did Dan say??? “..n-no…you just…startled me…”
He prostituted himself. He had a choice to leave the first time but stayed instead.
I don't think Dan is scared of Jk especially now he's growing feelings. I feel he's scared of Jk hitting him which Jk hasn't done.
“I am only keeping up with jinx because I wanna see how it gets worse progressively.”
Bullshit. You and I both know they will end up together living happily lol. Jk will love and fuck Dan and Dan will say he loves it! Jk will fall in love with our baby and there's nothing you do about it! Get worse? You're lying, you want to see the story grow. There's no excuse at this point because why torture yourself if you find something disgusting? That's pretty weird.
Again thank you my dear sir/lady! You took the words off of my mouth!
You're welcome babe♡.
at this point do what you fucking want to. Jaekyung quite literally fucked him after he almost got raped I am not making any more long replies wasting my time.
Yes the story has gotten worse Yk why? Because in the recent chapters he did things with consent from Dan and he isn't doing it now in ch 34.
I also mentioned I love seeing people defend Joo without a strong standpoint.
I know there is nothing I can do about nor am I further interested in this story(the sole reason being I loved the comment section of this story). It's obvious they will end together because this story has a really basic fucking ass plotline.
Either you accept a different opinion or don't.
You don't fuck somebody till they pass out after they almost got raped.
And I know most (might not be you but other people) of you wont write these long ass paragraphs if joo was ugly as fuck and didn't have a great build.
Yeah yeah whatever.
I do have a strong standpoint, but you're denying it lol. But damn, are you jobless? No offense because I find it pretty weird to keep reading something you find disgusting. Comment section? At this point, you're just making excuses.
“And I know most (might not be you but other people) of you won't write these long ass paragraphs if joo was ugly as fuck and didn't have a great build.”
That's why it's called fiction. Which author would want to make their character ugly asf? Although there are few but then again, the majority of authors make their characters damn attractive. Attractiveness is what attracts the crowd, you know. There's really nothing like an ugly ass character in Bl, yeah.
If Joo was ugly, I wouldn't even be here lmao. I love handsome tops with big dicks and toxic personalities, Toxicity brings out the drama! It’s entertaining, that's kinda my main purpose of being here. But you wanna know the difference between us two? I read things that I actually like instead of torturing myself in a story’s comment section that I find disgusting.
Take care♡.
You dont even understand that it's rape reread this whole thing and actually think through and you will realize it's rape.
Yeah pretty privilege is real here and stop defending that man and getting your panties in a twist when somebody calls him a rapist.
I can read what I want and critcize it and I have left reading this story (from now) . I will occasionally still check comments if I want to lmao the main reason I even replied to this comment was because there was barely any development in his character here, he hates heesung and did all that for his hate towards him.
peace out bro
Okay, calm down. No hard feelings.
I just fucking love him. And I see his character development already, because when the manhua started he was all over the place, fucking different people and didn't give a shit about any of them. But when Dan appeared, he slowly became both possesive and obsessive over him, helping him with the dept, letting him stay in his house (ok, I know that he had ulterior motives, because he believes that good sex before his matches will help him win) and know he is marking his territory, by letting Heesung witness that sex scene, like "Dude, get your fucking hands off of what's mine". He wouldn't do that for any other dude he had sex with. If he didn't care at all, he would just find someone else compatible enough to help him with his jinx.