Genuine question

toilet terrorist September 15, 2023 3:18 am

How do yall look at that shower scene and not see rape? I genuinely want to hear someones opinion on this. Mine isnt going to change but thats not the reason im asking, im trying to understand peoples interpretations here.
My opinion cited and edited from womenslaw.org:
When a person says “No,” it means no – it doesn’t matter if s/he is a prostituted person or not.  Even if s/he agrees to do one sexual act, if the payer forces him/her to do a different sexual act against his/her will, that is still rape. Prostituted people are much more likely to be raped than non-prostituted people. Using money as a weapon against them after they've clearly expressed they do not want intercourse is rape and sexual exploitation. Dan has been raped by Jaekyung 100% in chapter 8.

Responses
    Tmsmyz September 19, 2023 12:52 am
    I was genuinely confused since I didn’t see Tora’s other reply Robin

    But did Tora mentioned the other reply.

    I hate how mangago has their format. ( ̄へ ̄)

    (╬ ̄皿 ̄)凸 to the format.

    -SM. Lol. TM doesn’t use mangago emoji’s lol
    Some are cute ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶.

    Robin September 19, 2023 1:16 am
    I understand you thought “ I guess they are sorry for the behavior but it does come off insecure. “. was what she meant to where you posted a definition of insecure. You did cut off the “in” in insecu... Tmsmyz

    The cut off wasn’t on purpose? Y’all read to much into things

    Robin September 19, 2023 1:28 am
    Dude!! It is mostly your comments. “ Overall: You missed punctuation and commas. If you want to be police others make sure you are perfect.”You don’t get it. You hate me calling you out. I am the student.... Tmsmyz

    Why am I going to use ponctuation when it’s not needed I hate using so I’m not going to I hate reading long paragraphs hence why I said abbreviate or else I’m not reading it meaning make the long story short or I don’t wanna hear it why do you think I read manwhas/mangas instead of long ass books

    Tmsmyz September 19, 2023 1:55 am
    I understand you thought “ I guess they are sorry for the behavior but it does come off insecure. “. was what she meant to where you posted a definition of insecure. You did cut off the “in” in insecu... Tmsmyz

    I went back to understand “ The cut off wasn’t on purpose? Y’all read to much into things”
    Tora’s comment was cut off was the only thing I thought off.
    Tharp? What the hell?? What is Tharp? That is supposed to be “the”.

    Robin we knew it was accidental. That is why we haven’t said anything. I was just mentioned it. We understand what you meant. If we read too much into things we would said something about posting the wrong information when you did or if we were a hater mock you for it when you posted it. Do not read into things. The three of us took you for what you meant and did not read into things.

    Tmsmyz September 19, 2023 2:00 am
    Why am I going to use ponctuation when it’s not needed I hate using so I’m not going to I hate reading long paragraphs hence why I said abbreviate or else I’m not reading it meaning make the long story sh... Robin

    Tora thought your policing. If you are going to police others make sure you are perfect.
    But you were doing something different. Tora’s comment doesn’t apply to you.

    Tmsmyz September 19, 2023 2:17 am
    Mikaela. I wasn’t planning on talking to you again. I agree with THE Toilet. Wow! A line I never thought I would say a month ago. Haha. I think Rose can accept you apology. I acted like purky and a few others... Tmsmyz

    Mikaela, I ignored a conversation afterwards…. I forgot if I said anything in that conversation. It was the last time we talked. You were falsely accusing me. I don’t remember my response. I was defending myself. I am sorry to harm you if I did. Let me be clear, I am not apologizing for standing up to you and correcting the false allegations or the call outs. I know of a few things I shouldn’t had said. That I am sorry for.

    Dinika September 19, 2023 4:38 am
    Mikaela, I ignored a conversation afterwards…. I forgot if I said anything in that conversation. It was the last time we talked. You were falsely accusing me. I don’t remember my response. I was defending ... Tmsmyz

    Don’t be suprised, this is Mikaela. This is my second account when I am having trouble logging into my main account. Just wanted to say it’s good, it’s in the past now.

    BelovedRose September 20, 2023 12:58 am
    Are you dumb I literally said my fault I didn’t realize you where trying to say insincere and I thought you where just throwing words around did you not read that part and let it fly in one eye out the the en... Robin

    I don’t like how you handled this. It was a dumb way. I don’t read after a point. You deny being an ass. You have been an ass on many topics. I am sorry I took the wrong meaning and didn’t read.
    I accept your apology only if you start communicating. Like .ask TM why he is saying something. Posting a definition of the word is not going anywhere. It is indeed insulting if I understand what you meant to do.
    Tm says “That is insecure”
    You post definition to insecure? Do you think they don’t understand the word? Ask to understand the logic behind why.
    And when you know there is a misunderstanding don’t ask if they are dumb or that last line. Urgh

    BelovedRose September 20, 2023 1:07 am
    Rose. I understand. That is why I make sure I write a sentence asking or explaining when I post a definition. I can understand you thought Robin was correcting you and I understand you kept that interpretation.... Tmsmyz

    Thank you for stepping in. I appreciate you taking the time and effort to helping. I took a different meaning of “throwing words”. I thought it was what I did.

    Sincere apology to me with bad intentions for you and bad behavior to most. Lol.

    Torakaze September 24, 2023 2:50 pm
    Oh this is what you where talking about again I ain’t reading all of that abbreviate it and I might pookie Robin

    As requested by TMSM I left you alone. I agree with him.
    You and Rose had a misunderstanding. It did look like you were policing her. However, given your current performance, I decided to tell you a few things. Regarding you posting a definition to get at TMSM because you believed he is wrong or throwing out words is showing he is correct as it is getting to you. Robin, it is from research and it is MY RESEARCH.
    When TMSM is saying you are BEING manipulative. One it is your fault for making it about you. He is saying your actions are manipulative not you. When you get hostile or defensive that only proves it due to he discovered the truth about you.
    You have to remember. You said this to a misunderstanding. It doesn’t really apply but I am telling you so you can protect yourself. I was going to do in DM. It would be more ethical but Rose said to leave her alone in her last comment to you. She is not returning to that conversation. Mi Amore is not returning to any conversation with you in. You are spreading misinformation about us.
    Now, to you message here. I could have the second number wrong. The word count of that one message is 222. If I remove it correctly 121 was your own words. That means 101%222 = 45.49. (46 %) was new content. You degrade yourself. You threw up a defense mechanism when you were criticized. A defense mechanism that shows you are insecure about your own abilities. You can’t handle it so you try retort to name calling and on this case it wasn’t meant to be endearment. If we were like you, you would had a field day with this comment of yours. It showed all your insecurities in yourself. You can’t read a comment that is half yours. You can’t read a comment criticizing your comments. You are being rude and lazy but you are deflecting from the criticism. I could go on. TMSM protected you. He was right too. But what you did was wrong. I wanted everyone to see we left you alone. Then you go spread rumors.

    Torakaze September 24, 2023 2:53 pm

    It is finished. It is being proofread by a few people. It will be posted soon. Just getting input too.

    Torakaze September 24, 2023 3:04 pm
    Ah, it seems I wasn't clear with my comment. With the people being mad/angry I was referring to everyone who thinks there is rape and those who says there is not. It wasn't my intention to call you guys mad or ... Mikaela

    I don’t think they seen this. What you said - that means a lot. Thank you.
    I don’t remember if I said anything but I know I can be too blunt. My goal isn’t to hurt people but to help them. I can see how it could hurt. If I hurt you, it is not my intentions and I apologize. I do appreciate your kindness here.

    Sidenote:
    I am going to watch stranger things one day. I am surprised TMSM didn’t use it before she did. They are obsessed with that show.

    Torakaze September 24, 2023 3:07 pm
    I don’t think they seen this. What you said - that means a lot. Thank you. I don’t remember if I said anything but I know I can be too blunt. My goal isn’t to hurt people but to help them. I can see how i... Torakaze

    Mikaela…. I will unblock you later. I can’t on this app. I will login to my computer later.

    Torakaze September 24, 2023 4:15 pm
    As requested by TMSM I left you alone. I agree with him. You and Rose had a misunderstanding. It did look like you were policing her. However, given your current performance, I decided to tell you a few things.... Torakaze

    MY bad, small screen, and trying to rush. I didn't proofread... my bad. I admit I was a bit angry. Still am. But I still treated Robin as a human.
    Seriously.
    Who tells a rape survivor, they find everything disgusting but rape. She tells people she is a rape survivor to not hear BS like that. That would trigger anyone. What an asinine claim.
    She blocked Robin. Robin creates a topic to cry about being blocked and to attack Rose after lying about us. Rose, Mi Amore, and I barely talk on the topics threads. I am the most active of the three. Robin is not talking about about us or TMSM. Making that claim shows how threatened Robin feels about us.



    Correction:
    You said this due to a misunderstanding.*
    I was going to write this in DM.*
    Mi Amore is not returning to any conversation with you in it *.
    in this case, it wasn’t meant to be an endearment.*
    If we were like you, you would have a field day with this comment of yours.*

    Robin September 24, 2023 6:35 pm
    MY bad, small screen, and trying to rush. I didn't proofread... my bad. I admit I was a bit angry. Still am. But I still treated Robin as a human. Seriously.Who tells a rape survivor, they find everything di... Torakaze

    Oh my fucking gosh I didn’t create a topic to cry nor to attack rose they blocked me in the middle of a conversation. The one they started. I’m not threatened by any of you especially not you tora. Me and tmsm already talked and we agreed to disagree I told this person to block you guys because it would start another unnecessary argument. How is that trolling.

    Manhwaspicy September 24, 2023 7:03 pm

    Omg, TMSM or Tora or Belovedrose can you please summarise what's going on? I can't read all the comments.

    Torakaze September 24, 2023 7:12 pm
    Oh my fucking gosh I didn’t create a topic to cry nor to attack rose they blocked me in the middle of a conversation. The one they started. I’m not threatened by any of you especially not you tora. Me and t... Robin

    1. Who tells a rape survivor, they find everything disgusting but rape. She tells people she is a rape survivor to not hear BS like that. That would trigger anyone. What an asinine claim.
    You ended the conversation with that claim.


    2. You did cry about it and you did attack her. You attack us all.
    3. "I told this person to block you guys because it would start another unnecessary argument. " That is an asinine claim. We never argued. Mi Amore tried to talk to you until a point. We tried to talk to you here. Why lie about us? That is cowardly,
    4. I said you must be threatened because Mi Amore and Rose barely talk to her. Mi Amore least of all. When we get her to talk she meets you. She has not wanted to make a comment since then why add her? Rose left for weeks and has barely been here.
    I have been here but randomly. You are showing everyone who knows our habits how a threat you are to us if you act like we are online constantly and we only make unnecessary arguments. That is you, you are talking about. Mi amore left that conversation how many replies did you post attacking her and us?? Rose left that conversation how many replies did you post attacking her?
    5. We don't have to listen to you whiny or hating on us. We don't have to listen to you after you kept making up BS on us. You have made it clear you don't want to listen to us and only want to spread rumors. Why should we keep trying to talk to you when you are being so toxic? If you don't care, we don't care. If you cared you would not be lying about us.
    We care about genuine people who care, and who want to have real conversations. The "unnecessary arguments" are calling out bad behavior or/and defending ourselves or others. In other places, it would not be endless. This is an illegal site and people think they have more freedom. It brings out the worst in people.

    Robin September 24, 2023 7:20 pm
    1. Who tells a rape survivor, they find everything disgusting but rape. She tells people she is a rape survivor to not hear BS like that. That would trigger anyone. What an asinine claim.You ended the conversat... Torakaze

    If you don’t care why are you replying. You guys are all so full of it what your saying is “I reply to people who never asked for my opinion and get shocked and sad that they argue with me” no one told you guys to respond I told the op comment to block you guys so fucking what if I wasn’t already in a conversation with you guys I would have blocked you already if rose gets triggered by the mention of rape or being accused of rape defending why do they always come back here. they left because they kept getting triggered right? So why tf do they keep coming back. “I’m a rape survivor” congratulations I’m happy you got over whatever the fuck happened to you, but don’t expect me to care if they get “triggered” whilst having a conversation they weren’t apart of a topic that wasn’t even for them

    Torakaze September 24, 2023 7:32 pm
    Omg, TMSM or Tora or Belovedrose can you please summarise what's going on? I can't read all the comments. Manhwaspicy

    Five pages.... What has happened in those five pages? A few things I remember are there was a misunderstanding between Rose and Robin. Some apologizing for past behavior.

    The main point was to explain chapters 7-8. You seen how TMSM is going to handle it. He needs to correct it and add a few things before posting it. I think he had too much fun with it.
    He has worked hard on this.

    Manhwaspicy September 24, 2023 9:23 pm
    Five pages.... What has happened in those five pages? A few things I remember are there was a misunderstanding between Rose and Robin. Some apologizing for past behavior. The main point was to explain chapter... Torakaze

    Ohh. Okay okay thanks.