I have been civil most of the time. You have been abusive and you did gaslight. I have not made up any thing about you. None of my comments show trolling. That is you taking the loss.
Thank you for sharing you are a bad faith actor. Thank you for exposing yourself.
ok you’re just an idiot. i’m done trying to talk to you bc you’re too stupid to understand anything. THAT is being rude, call me whatever you want, i’m just glad i’m not as stupid as you.
pat pat it’s okay… it’s really funny bc they also blocked me too. like you have to find someone at least annoying or bothersome to block them (aka this guy was upset). but he keeps denying it and keeps telling us we’re somehow abusing him. honestly the delusional thinking is really funny. anyway, you seem like a cool person to talk to! if you have disc or smth u can message me there :) it’s in my bio if you don’t wanna share yours here
“i am blocking you and responding your other comments”. idk man you keep claiming i’m discrediting you or whatever when you’re constantly putting me down yourself (not that i care, just pointing it out bc it’s hypocritical). this whole “you’re trolling” thing genuinely doesn’t make sense either. people who “troll” don’t have genuine conversations like this. they say outlandish things to get on a person’s nerve. i’m trying to talk to you like a person but you’re making it really hard for me.
At the beginning dan didn't get intimate with jk because he wanted to. He had no other choice and had to sell his body. And jk was abusive towards dan. I wouldn't say that at the beginning dan completely consented to the act. Because sexual consent is freely given without any kind of pressure or manipulation and should be reversible even though he never said it aloud, in his thoughts he wanted it to stop. if my memory serves me right he was torn down there and bled. There was no respect or pleasure for dan.
Dan didn't know how scary the situation would turn out to be so he wasn't well informed either and dan wasn't ethusiastic about it too. So there was no actual consent. Atleast sexual consent in real world is much different than portrayed in these fictional stories.
"Violent or intimidating penetrative sexual conduct without the victim’s consent , therefore against their will, is considered rape"
So what happened was rape. But if some of you think that in chapter 3 what Dan gave was a consent then please do look into what and how sexual consent works. But then again one cannot blame the readers cuz the whole idea of consent in bl is problematic. So it's pointless debate about it.
https://www.mangago.zone/home/mangatopic/14449612/?page=7
So there was another thread.
Thisislele
Your reply is the first comment. You talked about TMSM making him the drama when he wants. You called TMSM a werido. He has a topic with 5 links and quotes but you claimed he wrote it. It was on women and sex fantasies and a few other things but you made it about sexual assault is different from rape. Rape is sexual assault but not all SA is rape. You asked a question trying to make it look like he was trying to downplay the abuse. He isn’t a rape apologist or denier. You degraded TMSM.
You failed to see why there is a point to separate Rape and SA. You’re taunted and deflected. You are rude. You are argumentative. You get proven wrong and keep lying. Your name is thisislele. You know it is but you would fight saying it is not saying the other is making up things. You pretend they proved your point when it disproved you. TMSM was civil. Anyone can tell he was causally talking to you. When TMSM know it was just cyber bullying he started to call you out. You called TMSM an idiot. He was stupid. You attacked him. You gaslighted him.
You were playing victim. You are a loser.
Thank you for responding to bring this to my attention. You missed page 2 that debunks this. And your details are off. It is a Sexual abuse. It is not rape. But look stupid.
Read chapter 4.
You were block for being a bad faith actor. He wasn’t upset. You did nothing to upset him. You fucking loser.
None of his comments suggest he was upset. Loser.
Blocking doesn’t mean upset. Thisislele has me blocked.
I am a good person but I am hostile towards bad faith actor.
He was being honest. He was never upset as your loser ass. You are trash. You are delusional if you think he got upset at you over nothing. You are not that special. You are stupid. You are abusive.
How you are applying emotions is trolling. How you are saying it is funny is too. You must be a sadistic stupid bitch.
Stupid.
He said you are trying discrediting him. He is quoting research on your word, deadass. He never put himself down. He didn’t attack you or used tricks. You didn’t call anything out but your stupidity. Don’t use logic you don’t understand. You said he was right for how you are acting.
You don’t understand how you are trolling? What a ducking loser. You are playing victim. Narcissistic bitch.
TMSM was having a genuine conversation. You never was. He called you out on your words for the outlandish things you did to change your behavior and have a conversation or expose your bad faith behavior. He is not trying to get on your nerves. Instead of changing you trolled him. You tried to made a calm man look angry because you were. He was right. It pissed you off. You never tried to talk to him like a person and you made it really hard for him.
Haters/ trolls/ cyber bullies once I am mistreated or it is known they are haters loses my respect. Blame the other haters. They will be met with their own toxic behavior in a more constructive manner. Speaking their language.
I am a rape survivor. Just wanted you to know.
I've read you other comment. I'm sorry you had to go through that. I hope you are doing well. Fighting!
All I could conclude is that both our points of view are different. He only agreed to have sex with jk because of money and he was in dire need of that. So for me that's not how consent works atleast that's what I've been taught. And yes I've read chapter 4 once again. Just because dan mentioned about the tingling sensation? Or whatever doesn't mean he was enjoying. If that wasn't the point u were referring to pls let me know.
The sentences I've put inside the quotation symbol were taken from a website those weren't my words. And sexual abuse and rape are two terms that tends to be confusing.
Why I said it was rape is because that was never a valid consent, doesn't seem that way to me. P.S there were a lot of comments here and I didn't read it all. So if you've already stated why you said it was sexual abuse in earlier comments I probably never read it.
You are talking about valid consent, but does Jk know that? The guy thinks Dan is experienced because Dan lied and Jk made it very clear he wasn't going to go easy on him.
So you can't blame Jk for being abusive because he was clueless ash. It isn't rape.
where is this all coming from jfc… i literally did talk to him like a person. wth are you saying calling me a troll and “exposing my bad faith”. people like you are so delusional, viewing everything as a personal attack.
look i’m really not offended bc you’re all just faceless people online i don’t personally know, but you do realize the both of you have acted extremely hypocritical by saying “all he was doing was trying to talk to you like a person” yet both of you are constantly dissing me lol
calling someone a “sadistic stupid bitch” and a “bad faith actor” isn’t how you’d talk to a person at all, at least by your standards. also the fact that you have to claim you’re a good person too when no one said otherwise more seems like you aren’t
srsly, the worst i did was assume his feelings. you make it sound like i was tearing his whole personhood apart. im not the one calling someone stupid, unworthy, and pathetic. all i did was tell him he SEEMED upset. MY OPINION. like give me a break… i’m sorry i offended someone so much, but i genuinely don’t understand how anything i said was THAT offensive.
I don’t like Jinx. I don’t Jk. I believe it is 100 sa and not rape. Did he only agree for money? No it is not about Dan’s having that feeling. Or him enjoying. I will let TMSM or Tora answer that.I know Manhwa answered but I can’t read as I am replying.I see page 1.
I think it is because you think I, rape survivor, is saying, Dan enjoying it means it is not rape. No if someone is raped and the body is enjoying it that doesn’t mean it’s not rape. I wasn’t saying that. I just want to go off on you for thinking that is what I am saying. You must believe lies on what this side is saying. You believing it is rape and sa, and me believing it is just sa not rape isn’t that different. I don’t know why you would think that or go there.
Please be careful people do have triggers. Unlike others I can control myself when I think you didn’t mean it.
When he told you he was no upset. You kept at it. Normal people would drop it. You pestered him. You are still at it. Omg! You had no effect on him. Can’t you fucking understand that? Why do you want him to be offended? Omg. You do things. Then it’s I didn’t do anything. I am innocent. Why play games? Why play victim? You had the situation wrong and went after him and only him. You are the hypocrite. We are not. You constantly dismiss us. If you didn’t dismiss him you wouldn’t meet me. If you would not dismiss him you would had a conversation. You are the problem. Good for calling at cyber bullying when I am only mocking cyber bully behavior. Didn’t I post that here? So if I am mocking someone like you it is “ that isnt how you’d talk to a person at all, at least by your standards” but when you do it, it’s okay.
No saying you are being a bad faith actor.( I don’t know how I worded) is to get you to change your bad faith attitude. It is not cyber bullying and can’t be used for your petty argument.
If I am not a good person by mocking cyber bullies what does that make you? A monster? You didn’t offend him. You are still doing those same stupid behaviors. You are doing things then pretending you didn’t and acting like we did wrong. You went after him. You had it wrong. You were wrong. You can be a bad faith person and not be offensive. You are wrong. What you did and are doing is wrong. You have narcissistic tendencies.
My last reply was to jipp
but i didn’t pester him???? what are you on about lmao
The truth… try it sometime
not being delusional and actually taking in both perspectives and not seeing everything in a black and white perspective… try it sometime.
Yo what's with the comments section? Why the big drama?