hmmmm

Why would the uke say "I love you," to a guy who has said he hates him and enjoys seeing him controlled and punished and wants him to cry? Would YOU say 'I love you" to a bully who sexually assaulted you and is now blackmailing you?

I totally agree with you, I love bully semes but this one is a bastard. How I wish to see a new seme who confort the poor uke and take him away of that guy

the uke already knows the semes personality and is still in love with him though. the uke doesn't seem to want to move on too.
"he hates him and enjoys seeing him controlled and punished and wants him to cry" this can also be taken in a less negative/positive way. its more teasing then bullying i believe.

and i cant really answer that truthfully, i haven't been put in that situation before so who knows what i would really do. BUT, hypothetically i feel like if i really liked this person, and they did those things to me, i would definitely put myself first, put my health and well being first, so i would talk to my superior about what is happening, and if they were a competent superior, they would realize their duty of care and reassign another employee to be in charge of that case with the seme.

but really, both the uke and seme really need to communicate better, they are doing some middle school to high school shit. they're "adults" already.

i think too that the seme is seriously awkward about how to handle his feelings, so reverts back to teasing/bullying - you know, high school shit.
They are both awkward and needs help. hopefully another character accelerates the process.

They are not awkward. It's the relationship. Who in their right mind rapes a dude and screws with him while on the road to marriage? I can't turn this into something sweet or even talk about "love" in this situation, because it's so fractured. Who does this? He finds him after all that time only to make him the mistress! Haha I'd be done. The uke needs get some backbone.
This far beyond childish teasing and bullying. They're adults not children, even normal high school children aren't doing stuff this foul. He's not right in the head. In not sure the uke is even sure....I mean we find out he likes the guy AFTER sex....wouldn't it make more sense for him to remember he had a crush on him immediately after they met each other, not after a side deal. It's weird. He's obviously not okay with it. Look at his face when he sees the fiancé. When he first meets him he is disgusted by past memories. He was perfectly fine before he came....now he's dumb with love? It makes no sense. Lol

Totally agree.

Plus every single action by the seme that we've seen has been negative and toxic except being nice to his gloomy employee. But that could be a way of controlling, too--hire someone emotionally needy and make them your slave.

As far as the uke, he has not shown in word or deed in any scene towards the seme any declaration of love and the seme only declares hate and a desire to control and cause hurt. The uke has consistently said he doesn't want anything to do with teh seme, and people around him keep pushing him into this "deal." He has felt compelled.

He's more like Stockholm Syndrome than love. And the seme has not shown one iota of true love outwardly, clearly. At the very least, beyond sadism, he's immature to the max.

hmm i still believe they are awkward, its a relationship that started in high school i think? I think once they saw each other again, it reverted to their relationship back then. It happens with people. Of course they are adults, but not all adults act like "adults." also, adult is subjective, there is no one definition of adult. you can be an adult in age, in experience, but also be emotionally awkward, emotionally immature etc. so not all adults are "adult," and act in a mature way. in my eyes, a 30 year old who still bullies and belittles people for their appearance and such, are emotionally immature and is still a "boy" to me. part of my definition of man is someone who if confident, emotionally mature but still has a childish and playful nature.

The younger generation now could be doing those foul things, Since they probably don't have a proper grasp on responsibility. i feel like you get that grasp when you choose to become more independent, since you force yourself, or see that you need to change your mindset to reach your goals. or they could be doing even worse things, but i wouldn't have a clue, i'm too old for school to observe it hahaha.


Feelings and emotions are unpredictable and complex, its not black and white, you don't always know what or how you feel until you acknowledge and address that feeling/emotion (usually you don't give a label to it when you first notice it). so he could have already had those feelings, but they appeared to be more apparent with time and the amount of times he interacted with the seme.