I bet you're the kind of person person who would be shocked and disgusted to the core if you heard from the Breaking News that a girl felt forced to indulge in sex actions just to get some money for her sick grandma.
Yeah, the uke might have accepted to do accept the seme proposal but this doesn't mean the seme is not taking advantage of the situation. A desperate situation where the uke just wants to save the only person he has to the world's life and he doesn't know where to get so much money in short time.
Now, let's be clear. There is nothing to doscuss about, the uke will clearly fall in love with the seme because the author wants like that. It's her choice, fine, she can draw whatever she likes. But denying that this shit is toxic is like forcing a person to jump in the void otherwise their parents will be killed instantly in front of their eyes and then say "They jumped on their own will. It wasn't them who killed them".
Plus I am 300% sure that if the seme was the usual ugly bastard, none would have liked this manga. Not even the ones who pretends this isn't rape or toxic lmao
*"They jumped on their own will. It wasn't me who killed them".
Look at that, bringing a real life example in here. Tora would be helping the girl out: to seek shelter, maybe the house he bought for a woman’s shelter, and find someone she needed to talk to. Tora would find programs to help her and her grandma. Tora would try to press charges, if the girl wanted it. He would be disgusted not shocked because he is a rape crisis counselor.
Now why don’t you read the story because that isn’t that.. Read from all POVs. Joo does not know and couldn’t take advantage of that situation.
He said the seme was toxic. He said it was SA and abusive. No one is denying it is toxic. Why don’t you read before jumping to conclusions.
Tora is straight man. It has nothing to do with how the seme is attractive. We are not pretending it is not rape. We just analyze the facts and details better. You had to lie about the story and what Tora said to be right in your pov. I have read stories with rape in them. This isn’t rape. Stop forcing your pov on others and read the story/comments without taking them out-of-context without making weird arguments to validate your pov as if it does something to what we are saying.
Why don’t you listen to us instead of trying to harm others?
Do you understand his comment here? You didn’t and now how do you expect me to acknowledge your opinion when you can’t understand a simple post here?
I bring a real life case and so what?
You answered yourself sweetheart. "Tora" would have helped the girl and why? Because she's being abused OMG
And omg are you serious? Just because I don't share your opinion and honestly recognise the toxicity not only in the story but also in that person comment it's ME who doesn't understand a thing?
Have you read what they said? Are you sure? Because it doesn't seem the case to me.
"There are semes that are more toxic than him"... Are you serious? A rape crisis counselor who talks like that?
So just because the seme isn't the worse asshole on the planet the readers should think 'oh well come on, there is worse out there'.
Are you serious?!
And he might be a rape crisis counselor but I'm a damn penal lawyer and I recognise a crime when I fucking see it. I know the law and I know to what extent an action is or not considered a crime.
What do I care if the seme doesn't know the specific reason the uke needs money? He just knows that he needs some.
In law that is enough to put someone in prison sweetheart.
There are many differences between your real life story and this story. You did not validate yourself there.
There are worse semes than him read Tora’s words. Instead of cherry picking and changing his meaning. You do know Tora wrote “ Yes, he does need to have charges against him.” You are going off for no reason. You have no point here. I don’t think a lawyer would write like this. They would also pay attention to details. You are not talking to us.
But do go on.
Do go on Lostris92, I do wanna hear more.
Tora blocked them after being so irrational and contradicting his comments. Many times there are contradictions and it got worse when I pointed it out. He considered them a bad faith actor and blocked them. It would been just attacks but it was hilarious
Written by 14 year old.
Sis, just know you’ll come back to this comment one day and be completely embarrassed.
But, enjoy what you enjoy in peace. As long as you’re not hurting others.
Glad your comment was written by a 14 year old.
Tora has nothing to be embarrassed about.
You do.
Tora does not enjoy this story. Tora does not enjoy Yaoi. Tora would be Straight and married. His wife, best friend, and more are into yaoi. He is pulled into things to analyze things.
Your comment was pathetic as you were trying to degrade him through and through by feeling threatened. How pathetic. You are embarrassing yourself now. Grow the hell up.
Maybe I should had left it alone.
I blocked you too. That was a hateful comment I would be embarrassed of myself if I wrote that to hurt someone else. I have no interest in your hurting others for your opinions. I would reflect on my actions if I was you. I don’t think I would be embarrassed about what I written. I tried to put it on the level on the people who are here reading. Your comments is awful. Be respectful of yourself and others.
Some topics are from haters who are making things up to get you to hate this story or cause drama.
They can’t even get the details straight. They make the seme extremely toxic when he is not that toxic. You can’t have a conversation with them.
Seme:
He is toxic.
He is abusive.
There are semes that are more toxic than him.
If you see rape, you see rape. If you see rape, allow others not to see rape. If read carefully. the story does not contain rape. Dan consented and non-consents many times. Consent can be given and taken away, not just once. The ones that see rape I have not come across a genuine reader yet. The ones I encountered are bullies who try to force their pov on you or there is something wrong with you. That is immature and insecure in their pov.
He is not a rapist. It is SA and abusive. Yes, he does need to have charges against him. I am not defending him. I am defending the truth of the story.
Dan:
Isn’t a loser or a weakling.
He lied to Joo - it is his fault too.
This isn’t Stockholm syndrome either.
They act like he is beating Dan up and keeping him in basement violently raping him tied up or something as Dan is falling in love with him. That isn’t this story.