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Wolfcub July 31, 2023 9:33 am

This comment section is why I don't take BL fans (yaoi) seriously. In any other genre, people are able to call out other characters for doing criminal activity. Here, they just deny it.

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    Chuuya July 31, 2023 9:46 am

    I think it because the character is hot that people ignore the actions of the character

    cocopuffs July 31, 2023 9:54 am

    fr like even if they're gonna continue reading it, they should at least admit that it's rape instead of deluding themselves just so they don't feel guilty.

    Tmsmyz July 31, 2023 10:15 am

    First to the main post many comments do call him out and I don’t see any deny criminal behavior.

    Chuuya, you talked to Tora. You knew he told you there was no rape. Tora is a straight married man that was asked to.analyze this. Rose, rape survivor, hated the story, said it was not rape. I don’t think it is because of the how hot a character is.

    Coco puffs. You see rape. We should not be forced in your pov. If you read carefully rape is not supported in the story. It comes close. It is SA. He is violent. He threatens. He slams him on the bed and pushes his face in the pillows. Just because we say there is not rape doesn’t mean we are denying or ignoring his criminal behavior.

    I read rape stories. This is no rape. There is no deluding myself to feel less guilty. There is no deluding with Tora or Rose to feel less guilty.

    Go read stories with rape and then come back.

    Hogu Hagyeongsu - rape
    Kiraide Isasete - rape
    Caste haven - rape
    Mob for Jack - rape
    Maki-chan wa Kare to Sex Shitai - rape
    falling alpha enigma the fourth bath - rape
    harami bara - rape
    abarenbo_honey - rape
    Under grand hotel - rape

    Jinx- isn’t rape. If It is rape, it is a kid’s version.

    Stop the manipulative and fallacious arguments to force your POV on others.

    Chuuya July 31, 2023 10:17 am
    fr like even if they're gonna continue reading it, they should at least admit that it's rape instead of deluding themselves just so they don't feel guilty. cocopuffs

    Frr they get so mad and u can’t say shit or else they’ll say “Then stop reading it” or “your not even paying for it” like bitch shut ur bitch ass up we can say our opinions if we want- Like just say ur trying to justify his actions, is not hard ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    Chuuya July 31, 2023 10:49 am
    First to the main post many comments do call him out and I don’t see any deny criminal behavior. Chuuya, you talked to Tora. You knew he told you there was no rape. Tora is a straight married man that was ask... Tmsmyz

    I can tell ur just gonna argue and that’s just gonna be a waste of my time but let me tell u what I said

    “Like u said it comes close to rape he doesn’t want to but feels like it’s mandatory due to it being a contract like in chapter 8 Feeling pressured that he has to since it’s the condition for the money. As for Joo’s actions - he’s a piece of shit and there’s no excusing that. Just Seeing my boy Dan as a toy - but who knows maybe a huge character development might happen soon”

    Like u said it’s sa- but that’s not any better - maybe some people are using the wrong term here but there opinions aren’t any less then yours, yes correct them on both terms, educate them-

    But I do meant that people are forgiving him easily just because he’s hot- you can have ur own opinions on it idgaf but these are just mine, if you haven’t been to TikTok a lot of people comment that- yes the character is hot but just because of that they are willing to forgive his actions- that’s what I was talking about

    So I don’t need you to come educate me and bring this shit like “you knew he told you there was no rape” like bitch I never once brought it up I was just talking about how people that forgive him easily

    Anyways that’s all thank you ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    peachmilk July 31, 2023 11:16 am

    Honestly as someone who reads seinen,Shoujo and josei in all of those genres you find people who either deny that it's rape or don't care that it's rape just bc it's an attractive person who did it

    taeyahhhh_03 July 31, 2023 11:27 am
    First to the main post many comments do call him out and I don’t see any deny criminal behavior. Chuuya, you talked to Tora. You knew he told you there was no rape. Tora is a straight married man that was ask... Tmsmyz

    bro whatever drug you're taking........I want a slight dose of it...only a slight or else I will turn braindead like you and I still want to have a sense of self

    Tmsmyz July 31, 2023 11:33 am
    I can tell ur just gonna argue and that’s just gonna be a waste of my time but let me tell u what I said “Like u said it comes close to rape he doesn’t want to but feels like it’s mandatory due to it be... Chuuya

    I am not on here to argue so don’t make judgements. What is with the rudeness. What not gave a conversation a change because some people maybe genuine. I actually hate arguing.

    You were talking about how hot a character was. That was a jump. That was your response to Tora. Look you judged me and you did not see me for me. Are you sure you are not doing the same for Joo? Yes he tries him like a toy but …. Have you looked deeper? Tora didn’t reply because he wasn’t sure if you would listen to him and he was debating it because a situation was happening on here and real life happen. This page seems really closed-minded. You gave me and Joo no room to be anything but your opinion. I think if I wrote “okay”. You would see me as arguing and a waste of time. I am trying to show you I am not. I don’t know why you judged me so harshly.
    I just read the story carefully.

    I am not justifying sa. I am not dismissing anyone opinions.
    I am trying to learn from Tora and keep my opinions out of. When I said it is SA. It is not my opinion. Would you stop making things that isn’t my opinion, my opinion. Tora is right it is frustrating.

    “- you can have ur own opinions on it idgaf but these are just mine, “. You must had misunderstood my comment.
    There has been somethings said that was unnecessary. I don’t say you could have that opinion. My comment to you was sharing there are other reasons. I didn’t share an opinion to you. I don’t even consider your comment an opinion. I seen it as a reason but you made it the only reason. I was sharing information with you. I was adding to your list of reasons. I was not taking away your reason. My last sentence to you was about their reasons not debunking your reason. There are many more reasons than those three reasons.

    I have not been on TikTok but I know what you are talking about. I seen it here but I think you misunderstood.


    “So I don’t need you to come educate me and bring this shit like “you knew he told you there was no rape” like bitch I never once brought it up I was just talking about how people that forgive him easily “.

    If that is how you interpreted my comment and how you treated people I feel sorry for you. You misunderstood and got defensive. Can you have a civil conversation? I was adding reasons. I came to educate you? You really misjudged me.

    Tmsmyz July 31, 2023 11:34 am
    bro whatever drug you're taking........I want a slight dose of it...only a slight or else I will turn braindead like you and I still want to have a sense of self taeyahhhh_03

    Stop smoke and seek professional help.

    Tmsmyz July 31, 2023 11:39 am
    Stop smoke and seek professional help. Tmsmyz

    I corrected that. Huh? lol
    Stop smoking and seek professional help.

    Chuuya July 31, 2023 12:43 pm
    I am not on here to argue so don’t make judgements. What is with the rudeness. What not gave a conversation a change because some people maybe genuine. I actually hate arguing. You were talking about how hot ... Tmsmyz

    “you judged me and you did not see me for me” well no shit I don’t even know you

    “Yes he tries him like a toy but …. Have you looked deeper?” - girl it’s a story it ain’t something deep it’s literally part of his character development so please stop with this bs of giving “joo no room but my opinion” - cause if I’m being honest with you, you sound hella dumb.

    Plus I’ll like to correct you in one thing I never said that you saying sa was your opinion or an opinion- all I said was it still didn’t justify his action but to correct people of the differences between sa and rape and actually educate them on what’s going on in the story - where I did say you can have your opinion was on the fact that people were forgiving him for being hot- that was it

    I really don’t get what you don’t understand- and what reasons are you exactly talking about because you’ve been giving me the same reasons- and also please stop talking about tora I don’t even know who they are

    And please don’t feel sorry for me. If im being honest I actually feel sad for you for spending your time in the comments and doing nothing but argue… we’ll not argue you said you didn’t like to argue

    Chuuya July 31, 2023 1:03 pm
    “you judged me and you did not see me for me” well no shit I don’t even know you “Yes he tries him like a toy but …. Have you looked deeper?” - girl it’s a story it ain’t something deep it’s ... Chuuya

    I get that you’re trying to correct people but you commenting and trying to change their minds won’t do any change - there will always be people saying something and arguing about it. Plus it’s just a story we don’t gotta make it out whole personality right?

    And I actually do want to apologize for being rude in my first comment. I used a lot of cuss words which made me sound horrible so I do apologize:))

    Anyways this is my last time I will be talking to you or reading anything from you so have a lovely day ٩(๑❛ᴗ❛๑)۶

    toilet terrorist July 31, 2023 2:08 pm

    Even if people anna be in denial and saynits not raoe ghey do realise prostitution is illegal is korea right? Legit yall need to stop lying to yourselfs

    Tmsmyz July 31, 2023 3:27 pm
    “you judged me and you did not see me for me” well no shit I don’t even know you “Yes he tries him like a toy but …. Have you looked deeper?” - girl it’s a story it ain’t something deep it’s ... Chuuya

    “you judged me and you did not see me for me” well no shit I don’t even know you “

    Don’t judge

    Tmsmyz July 31, 2023 3:31 pm
    I get that you’re trying to correct people but you commenting and trying to change their minds won’t do any change - there will always be people saying something and arguing about it. Plus it’s just a sto... Chuuya

    “I get that you’re trying to correct people”
    FALSE

    “but you commenting and trying to change their minds”

    FALSE

    Accusations
    Gaslighting

    “Plus it’s just a story we don’t gotta make it out whole personality right?”

    Defending how people were treated isn’t anything about the story. I am a victim of cyber bullying. You have took the cyber bullying POV on me.


    “And I actually do want to apologize for being rude in my first comment. I used a lot of cuss words which made me sound horrible so I do apologize:))”

    In my comments to the cyber bullies. I used many mocking them as they said it is fun. I don’t see the appeal. I feel cringe. I understand.

    Wolfcub July 31, 2023 5:59 pm
    First to the main post many comments do call him out and I don’t see any deny criminal behavior. Chuuya, you talked to Tora. You knew he told you there was no rape. Tora is a straight married man that was ask... Tmsmyz

    I have those stories I know they have rape in them, but just because the rape in those serious are much more blatant and aggressive, doesn't make the rape in Jinx non existent. The shit Joo does falls under the legal definition of rape, whether you like it or not. It isn't an opinion, it's fact. Whether you like or dislike doesn't matter to me, but let's call it what it is.

    Wolfcub July 31, 2023 6:04 pm
    Honestly as someone who reads seinen,Shoujo and josei in all of those genres you find people who either deny that it's rape or don't care that it's rape just bc it's an attractive person who did it peachmilk

    That's true, but I feel like BL fans are much more worse when it comes to this thing. Shoujo girlie's, at least from my experience, are able to acknowledge a male lead is toxic / abusive / rapey but simp for them nonetheless. BL fans just deny it for some reason.

    Wolfcub July 31, 2023 6:07 pm
    fr like even if they're gonna continue reading it, they should at least admit that it's rape instead of deluding themselves just so they don't feel guilty. cocopuffs

    Yeah, it's just so odd. Like is this the hill you really wanna die on? Defending a rapist? Like, the least you could do is just acknowledge it and continue reading it as a guilty pleasure or something

    Wolfcub July 31, 2023 6:08 pm
    Even if people anna be in denial and saynits not raoe ghey do realise prostitution is illegal is korea right? Legit yall need to stop lying to yourselfs toilet terrorist

    Lol, fair point

    Manhwaspicy July 31, 2023 6:09 pm
    I have those stories I know they have rape in them, but just because the rape in those serious are much more blatant and aggressive, doesn't make the rape in Jinx non existent. The shit Joo does falls under the... Wolfcub

    Hi, please can you explain further on why you saw rape in Jinx. I really and genuinely want to understand and I hope we can converse professionally.