how did I expose myself if I'm just trying to understand why you believe that he didn't rape Dan?
and how are u saying that he isn't able to voice his thoughts if he clearly said that he didn't want to do it and he said he was scared??? I would assume that he WAS in fact expressing how he felt in his current situation.
there isn't really anything to distinguish because if he said he was scared and he ultimately didn't want to do it, even if he consented at first and then changed his mind, and Jaekyung coerced him into doing it by threatening him, then it is rape.
No one is defending him. There is literally no rape in this story. Rape is your pov.
We don’t excuse it. We see the details stated otherwise.
We are not trying to convince ourselves because it is as clear as day it didn’t happen.
Read the story closely. I see you making shit up on us here to feel superior in your POV. Threatened much?
Go read stories with rape and then come back.
Hogu Hagyeongsu - rape
Kiraide Isasete - rape
Caste haven - rape
Mob for Jack - rape
Maki-chan wa Kare to Sex Shitai - rape
falling alpha enigma the fourth bath - rape
harami bara - rape
abarenbo_honey - rape
Under grand hotel - rape
Jinx- isn’t rape. If It is rape, it is a kid’s version.
Stop making jinx rape. It is not. You have rape on the mind to enforced it in a story that doesn’t have it.
This is you forcing you pov. Rape is your pov. This is a story. It is not real.
See your pov in a story or you are a fucker who thinks rape is okay in real life.
That is delusional.
You are being ridiculously disgusting.
He does not see rape in the story. You do.
You are forcing you beliefs on him to be right in a story.
If he doesn’t see rape, it has no weight on his view in the real life.
It is like using God on an atheist. They don’t believe in God.
There was a rape survivor that didn’t see rape in this story. She hated the story. She hates rape. She is not okay with rape in real life. You are being ridiculously disgusting.
There is not rape in a story ≠ okay with rape in real life
However, forcing a story to be rape is a different story. Forcing rape to be in a story = okay with rape .
I agree that was a very ignorant thing to say to my comments.
The story’s pov is there is no rape. It is not my opinion or my pov. There is no rape in the story. Read the story closely or learn what rape is.
The thing is if there is no rape, there is no rape. There is no pov that can change the story.
“ I gee I crave rape and have to see rape in a story so let’s make the story’s pov their POV to be right”.
I want to open up on the, "learn what rape is," topic. I'm not trying to invalidate your own personal experience, but I would like to add a little insight, if I may. I looked at all the examples you have been listing under lots of threads of people discussing the topic, which they have the write to do, and all of your examples are definitely rape, but only one facet of rape. The type of rape that all your examples are of are of very brutal/violent, forced fucking, but the type you're missing is rape through sexual coercion-like in Jinx. This is where the fucking happens, and albeit the fucking may not be forceful, a party involved either didn't give their consent, OR , in this case, were put in a position where they really couldn't say, "no," which is where the coercion came in.
Now here's the thing about coerced fucking ie rape, is highly accepted in the vast majority of the world, and since this kind of sex may not leave physical scars, it's discredited which is disgusting. Anyways, like the disgusting argument that, "if the sex was good, it wasn't rape-" which just is totally ignoring the whole reason rape is a problem, --these are both nuances of rape that are harshly overlooked, and leads to heart-crushing situations.
I apologize if this felt like I was attacking you, but I hope you will maybe consider this viewpoint.
(Also, there are lots of people with coercive relationships (that can lead to rape), and this has nothing to do with whether or not the story or the writer is necessarily a bad one, again, I think people are just acknowledging the situations problems at the moment, and are not trying to dig at the authors of the manhwa.)
Thank you
Hi, thank God you're an open-minded person. That's cool and I really hope we come to an agreement.
In chp 3 Dan consented jk and they both came to an agreement. He had the chance to say no but decided to stay. And after getting ready to shower, jk dragged him out because he was wasting his time which is understandable. After all, his jinx was very important to him and it was quite late for them to be having sex presuming jk had to be sleep and be lively for the match.
He was already annoyed but that doesn't also mean Dan deserved being pushed around like that. And when they start Dan says he can't do it anymore which jk found annoying by saying, “You think I'm some sort of joke to you, don't expect to leave here like that last guy safe and sound” I think that's what he said. But if you look at jk pov, he didn't even mean to threaten him, that wasn't his intention if you notice his next reaction at that specific moment. And at that moment he also remembered the insult that last whore threw at him about his championship which drove him angry to say those words to Dan. And Dan then said in his thoughts, “Right, I had already agreed, I can do this” I agree that Dan felt threatened but you can't say that when you look at both POV's and you can't use this statement “Jk threatened Dan.”
In a court,
Yes judge I said he should put it in.
Yes judge I agreed to sign the contract.
Judge: Did he threaten you to agree?
Dan: He looked intimidating and he sounded angry that I was already backing out when I had already agreed. Besides, I also needed the money pretty badly and I had also consented to another 14,000 dollars thereafter because I was able to endure the first round.
This wouldn't and cannot be considered coerced rape when you look at their parts. Thank you.
why are some of yall going so hard to defend this nga and excuse the fact that he literally raped that boy...atp yall are trying to convince urself that it didnt happen bc its as clear as day...