RAPE?

Here you are~ Come get your bottle of milk and go to bed kids!

They say we are raping them when we attacked and trolling them. ****.

It wasn’t about the disagreement. I told them that over and over but one brain cell is space and the other is on vacation.

You misunderstood his points and being overdramatic. You are taking this way out of context.

How about you drop the shit and find another shit. This shit isn’t meant for you. It is a story. He is a character. It is not real.

Wow... I just wanted to have a mature conversation. Why the hell are you screaming? I can't even talk to you again seeing all the fierce comments of yours, you're so violent LMAO.

Bro, he threatened him once he won't send him home safe and sound if he doesn't have sex with him. A dudes face was SMASHED into a wall. You STILL think Dan had a choice here? Yeah, to get bloodied up by a champion boxer or have sex. Seems like Dan REALLY had a choice to leave, huh? Jaeckass clearly isn't a rapist, right? And when he was called to his home once, why did Jaeckass lie? Why didn't he said the truth and admit he wants sex? Seems like he planned to force him into it.

Wow! Such points you have here...which are invalid. How about you read from BOTH perspectives eh?

HOW IS THIS NOT RAPE??? I literally gave you a valid point!!! Just explain how this is not valid.

Fine.


Do you know what the problem is? The problem is those who fail to read a comic properly. I've seen a lot of comments where people say it's “dubcon” “jk threatened Dan to sign the contract” “Dan is in no position to reject the contract” “jk is a rapist” “blah blah blah”.

There are things you have to observe while reading a comic. I advise everyone to go back and reread the chapters involving the agreement carefully.

Dan is a 29-year-old man who is grown enough to make decisions for himself. Yes, he is mild and appears to have low self-esteem but that does not excuse the fact that he would be stupid enough to not know what he was getting himself into. I still can't see how jk threatened him to agree. The same jk who specifically said at the beginning of the agreement, “If you're not willing, I’d better find somebody else.” he was literally calling another one of his whores to replace Dan. And in that moment, Dan was thinking if he should agree to it, “Can I really do this? There is no way I would find this huge amount of money anywhere. Besides, it's only for the night and after that, it'll all be over.” The guy knew what he was up against, so he persuaded jk that he was willing to agree to it. He sold his body in exchange for money. Jk never threatened him! Read the chapter carefully! Gosh! What are you people even reading for you to not understand something as obvious as this?

The problem also is Dan who doesn't always VOICE his thoughts. Jk was clearly oblivious to how Dan was suffering. He didn't even know the guy was suffering because the so-called physical therapist AKA Dan LIED that he was experienced. Why did he lie? It's clearly his fault for getting such abuse from jk. Jk is rough in bed, this is basically how he treats all his sex partners and jk just assumed that Dan was one of them since he lied that he was experienced.

You all NEED to look at it from BOTH perspectives.

Even in a court, it won't even be referred to as RAPE.

RAPE is a very harsh language and this MANHWA doesn't have any of it.

Another point: Just because it looks like it, doesn't mean it is. Dig deeper and understand the context.

Also, jk is a real piece of shit too.

Dan was harassed not raped. I'm talking about the time with the doctor from his previous workplace. Therefore, Dan lied that he was experienced(having sex)(intercourse).

Not everyone is the same, mind you. It still doesn't excuses the fact that he lied.

There's a correct way to read it, observe the expressions carefully, “the dilated pupils” “blush” “the blue blush that describes horror” “parted lips” “widened lips in the form of screaming” There are so many others.

The gestures and the dialogue too. They all have meanings and should be highly considered.

Mind you, I'm not trying to support jk. I'm looking at it from both perspectives. Jk’s intention wasn't to threaten Dan at all. Be in jk’s shoes at that specific moment, he has a jinx and he has to have sex to win, all he cares about is his tournament for the next day. He was restless and angry that someone was wasting his time and I believe it was quite late for him to be having sex presuming that he had to sleep and be lively for the match.

Yes, jk lied to Dan about coming over for therapy but in his thoughts, he knew Dan wouldn't have come if he said he wanted to have sex. And I agree that was messed up too.

Dan the time to think. He DID. Jae was literally going ahead to CALL another one of his whore to replace Dan. Dan knew he needed the money, he knew, he's not a child. He knew what he was getting himself into. Omg

The poor guy, I'm sad for him.

I also kinda wish he had friends to advise him out of the agreement the second time he signed that contract of the whenever wherever :(

Seems like you need to reread it and read slower to let your brain process what just happened. Why did Jae say he won't let him go home safe and sound when Dan changed his mind? At that exact moment there wasn't any consent anymore. Lmao, even rapist can get no consequences in court since it's corrupted so you are at least right on that.

Well, when people are in a situation like Dan, there a not a lot of alternatives you can take since there are money collectors who want to kill and apparently rape you. I am sure we can at least agree on this point and find common ground. I apologize for my first sentence in my other comments, was kinda childish. (ʘ ʖ ʘ)

Jk obviously said that because he was annoyed. And if you noticed, he said that because Dan began changing his mind which was annoying especially after he had agreed.

I mean, if your friends had planned an outing that you really wanted to go for and then the next dying second he/she suddenly changes his/her mind. That's quite annoying and can lead you to saying harsh things, don't you think?

And what do you expect from a boxer? The whore deserved his head being smashed in the wall honestly.

I can see where you're coming for, but I won't change my mind and neither will you, so let's and this debate before it gets heated lmao. At the end of the day Jae is an awful person.

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My brain left for vacation yall.

Yeah, it's okay, I agree too.

But do you still consider it rape? Although it is close to it but I just don't feel comfortable referring to it as rape especially when I looked at it from each other's pov.

Okay

Yes, this manga has lots of subtle expressions.
JJ mainly just say 「…….」when apparently he is feeling something toward Dan and readers are supposed to dig and feel.
Very common in Asian Manga and drama.
I am having fan guessing and imagining.
If those scenes are skipped the story looks quite shallow? Maybe?
I believe this manga is targeted for quite mature age reader.
However, how readers read manga is up to them.
Just my opinion…

what the fuck are you on about???

like i give 2 shits bro bffr, im done arguing over logical shit over the internet. why the fuck would i make rape my fantasy your fucked up, do you think i care if i attack? god damn, you lots are a bunch of snowflakes for seeing that to be so offensive to you lmaooo

You called him a snowflake, that means you are. Seeing your insults and insecurities in your reply, you are defining yourself.

When you judge others, you don’t define them, you define yourself. Everything you said about him, was about you. He isn’t the one with the problems. He isn’t attacking you for seeing rape in the story. You are attacking him for not seeing rape in the story. It is your pov there is rape, you attack us to force us to see rape, and it is because you want it be rape. We find it cringeworthy that you want it to be rape and forcing that into that fantasy you conducted. We are not the snowflakes here.

You should care about you attacking others. It is sadistic to not care.

In that comment you said you can’t handle a conversation. You insulted him and lost. Where have you argued? You have only attacked to be right in having rape in a story that many don’t see. It is your fantasy you are fighting for.