I'M VERY EXCITED WITH THE FUTURE CHAPTERS I THINK I KINDA LIKE THE WRITING OF THE STORY

tongtong August 2, 2023 4:38 pm

First its okay to dislikes the characters because of their actions, trauma doesn't justify their bad behaviors BUT I think it still relates (somehow) on the shits they do in the future, THIS IS THE REASON WHY WE FUCKING NEED TO TAKE CARE AND LOVE OUR CHILDREN SO THEY WON'T GROW UP AS A FUCKING ASSHOLE OR CRIMINAL IN THE FUTURE AND WHY MENTAL HEALTH NEEDS TO BE TAKEN SERIOUSLY.Behavior can be resulted from genetics and environment.

I like how the author write this, the r scene wasn't romanticized I was at the edge of my sit (or bed lol).

I also understand why ahjussy (forgot his name) was bad with communication with children or teens (though he's already a prosecutor his communication skills should somehow been improve, train, or something) because he doesn't have parents (as far as I remember), it's really hard to grow up without role model or someone (an adult specifically) to thought you on how things should work.

I also understand why the mc (I also forgot his name) behaves that way, he grow up without love, care, emotional and physical support from a parents or adult that supposed to take care of him. it was implied that almost everybody around him treated him like shit. He has abandonment issue, trust issue, attachment issue, etc. It was mentioned that his therapy was discontinued because of his shity foster parents, ahjussy should've have given attention on this details like bro you literally work as a prosecutor, you also don't lack money you should have know better (or maybe because of the plot LMAO). This is the only part I don't understand, mc literally has a lot of suicide attempts and ahjussy as an adult and professional didn't even think about his mental health? Didn't question the mc's situation on the foster parents house? His behaviors?

Nevertheless, I'm not condoning mc's crimes (arson, [but the shitty foster family deserve it lol], attempts of sexual assault, and rape) earlier I said trauma contributes to an individual's behavior, and their way of thinking, and decision making BUT IT DOESN'T JUSTIFY THEIR CRIMES AND BAD BEHAVIOR TOWARDS OTHER PEOPLE, ANIMALS, PLANTS, THINGS, WHATEVER.

Overall, as of now I like how the story is going it doesn't focus on smut (PLEASE LET IT STAY THAT WAY) like, I know this is an adult BL but please, I hope the author would focus more on the plot and storyline instead of smut, like okay if they want to write smut BUT PLEASE DON'T MAKE IT EVERY CHAPTER.

I love the artsyle thou!

Responses
    tongtong July 26, 2023 5:47 pm

    *without love and care...



    DOD I JUST FUCKING WRITE AN ESSAY??? BRUHHHH WHERE'S THIS ENERGY WHEN IT COMES TO MY SCHOOL WORK????

    cid July 29, 2023 11:52 pm

    yes! heeseo is clearly a product of his environment but it doesn't excuse his actions at all

    ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧ July 30, 2023 6:02 pm

    I was on board until

    ''I also understand why ahjussy (forgot his name) was bad with communication with children or teens (though he's already a prosecutor his communication skills should somehow been improve, train, or something) because he doesn't have parents (as far as I remember), it's really hard to grow up without role model or someone (an adult specifically) to thought you on how things should work.''

    I can understand that he might not be the best communicator out there but he seems to talk with people fine. He's unnecessarily hiding stuff from MC for no reason at all. He doesn't even bother to give a basic explanation to why he was late. He's always so secretive and sinister to the point of MC pulling some over the top shit again to get a basic human response from him.

    I didn't have parents growing up either but I know that I should normally answer to people when they ask me questions like ''where were you, are you okay? why didn't you answer my calls''

    At this point, instead of characters acting normally, the author seems to complicate stuff for no reason than to stretch the chapters.

    I'm sure that the uke has basic communication skills to explain why he was late. He doesn't need to tell his entire life story, but he should've at least said that he was busy or was working on a case and broke his phone.

    Winouyang July 30, 2023 6:48 pm
    I was on board until ''I also understand why ahjussy (forgot his name) was bad with communication with children or teens (though he's already a prosecutor his communication skills should somehow been improve, t... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    He did explain tho?

    ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧ July 31, 2023 8:44 am
    He did explain tho? Winouyang

    He didn't? he tried to brush it off again for no reason like MC is a dog who doesn't deserve a normal human response. He only tried to explain himself kinda was after MC pulled some shit again for sympathy. Can you imagine having to attempt suicide every time you want a normal human response from someone? it doesn't even require a 1000 word essay, a basic explanation was enough.

    ''Hey I was worried why you were late, you didn't even respond to my calls, are you okay?''

    ''shut the fuck up bitch go away''

    ''I'll kill myself if you don't respond''

    ''traffic''

    Winouyang August 1, 2023 3:01 am

    That’s called manipulation lol dude clearly doesn’t behave like this with anyone else except for the MC. Sure MC could be more expressive but he doesn’t owe the kid anything. I don’t have to imagine attempting suicide if I don’t get a response from someone…because you shouldn’t be doing that. Obviously the kid has mental health issues and serious attachment issues.

    Winouyang August 1, 2023 3:10 am
    He didn't? he tried to brush it off again for no reason like MC is a dog who doesn't deserve a normal human response. He only tried to explain himself kinda was after MC pulled some shit again for sympathy. Can... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    @my reply above. Also I hope you don’t carry those same thoughts into real life cause that is dangerous. NO ONE should be threatening to kill themselves to warrant a response from another person. You know when someone in a relationship threatens to do suicide if their partner leaves them? Yea that’s manipulation and the partner needs to LEAVE the mf relationship asap.

    Hee soo here needs actual professional help, which of course we know that’s not gonna happen.

    ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧ August 1, 2023 2:43 pm
    @my reply above. Also I hope you don’t carry those same thoughts into real life cause that is dangerous. NO ONE should be threatening to kill themselves to warrant a response from another person. You know whe... Winouyang

    1.'' he doesn't owe him anything'' I don't owe food to a starving man but I'll do it anyways because it's a BASIC human response. Since you find the uke right, why don't you stop replying to me? you don't owe me a response or anything right? it's almost like people communicate or something.

    The MC literally watched his mom burn to death in front of him and got stuck in an abusive home for years where he wasn't taken seriously at all. He finally meets a person who he can actually talk to and his only response is ''shut the fuck up bitch, go away'' to even the smallest, simplest questions.

    ''Hey where were you I was worried''
    ''shut the fuck up bitch''

    Uke wouldn't owe MC an explanation IF HE DIDN'T TRY TO TAKE CARE OF HIM.

    I'll put it in simpler terms for you, I adopt a dog, I don't feed the dog, I kick the dog when it comes asking for food.

    ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧ August 1, 2023 2:47 pm
    @my reply above. Also I hope you don’t carry those same thoughts into real life cause that is dangerous. NO ONE should be threatening to kill themselves to warrant a response from another person. You know whe... Winouyang

    The way you write is so dramatic and cringe I barely managed to read it. Maybe you shouldn't call people dangerous psychos because they disagree with you on a fictional book with questionable writing.

    I know how to work like a basic human, you're the one who thinks a basic response to a question is the biggest task in the world. Tho well, even when you're defending the uke, you're still responding to me despite not owing me a response so yeah.

    tongtong August 2, 2023 7:54 am
    I was on board until ''I also understand why ahjussy (forgot his name) was bad with communication with children or teens (though he's already a prosecutor his communication skills should somehow been improve, t... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    people are different from each other even if they experience same things, how they deal with things or with trauma will not always be the same.


    Also that's why I'm wondering, (maybe I forgot to put it on my essay ) he's already a professional he should handle things like that much better but he failed, maybe there is more on the backstory and he's cooking some shit, or he's just an asshole to mc, or his sick in the head and need professional help cuz he seems like he can't handle teens and children, or maybe you are right, maybe the author is just writing unnecessary shit for the plott idk

    tongtong August 2, 2023 7:55 am

    I honestly already forgot about the plot

    ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧ August 2, 2023 8:25 am
    people are different from each other even if they experience same things, how they deal with things or with trauma will not always be the same.Also that's why I'm wondering, (maybe I forgot to put it on my essa... tongtong

    YES QUEEN PREACH. The uke is supposed to be a ''professional smartass'' but can't even properly answer a question asked by a traumatized fucked up child who committed arson.
    Like what does he think it's gonna happen? the fucked up child will go ''understandable, have a nice day'' and sit on a chair like an accessory until uke needs him for something.

    And he never understands that what he's doing is wrong either, he watched MC attempt suicide like billion times and he still has that ''I have no idea where I am'' looking ass expression.

    tongtong August 2, 2023 4:34 pm
    YES QUEEN PREACH. The uke is supposed to be a ''professional smartass'' but can't even properly answer a question asked by a traumatized fucked up child who committed arson. Like what does he think it's gonna h... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    You're right, uke's attitude towards the mc also frustrates me but I don't expect too much on them anymore or for them to have a healthy relationship cuz of the first chapter. Now what I'm curious about is how the author will make this work, cuz I'm currently reading cnovel with dog blood drama and shiz, the author is very creative on making the readers and his characters suffer that you'll start to think that the ending will be tragic but at the same time they also find a way to make the uke and seme's relationship work???

    I wonder how this story and characters will end up and what is the attack of the author on this kind of tropes, I hope it will be good amd enjoyable cuz I really like the artstyle.

    tongtong August 2, 2023 4:36 pm
    YES QUEEN PREACH. The uke is supposed to be a ''professional smartass'' but can't even properly answer a question asked by a traumatized fucked up child who committed arson. Like what does he think it's gonna h... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    Idk if the author wrote his char that way because his planning something or just a idk what's the term plothole?? Lack of understanding character??? But nevertheless it still frustrating

    ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧ August 2, 2023 4:38 pm
    Idk if the author wrote his char that way because his planning something or just a idk what's the term plothole?? Lack of understanding character??? But nevertheless it still frustrating tongtong

    feels like unnecessary drama to me. Like a character dying from thirst and another character refusing to give water for no other reason than to stretch the chapters by making them fight for no reason.

    Winouyang August 4, 2023 4:13 am
    The way you write is so dramatic and cringe I barely managed to read it. Maybe you shouldn't call people dangerous psychos because they disagree with you on a fictional book with questionable writing. I know ho... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    You forgot the dude literally almost raped/sexually harassed this man?? And you’re telling me you know how to work like a basic human. Ain’t no one responding to this rapist bitch afterwards lol esp after taking him in. And I don’t think you understand what it means to not owe someone anything. Yea I don’t owe you a response, but I am responding cus I want to. If I didn’t then I wouldn’t have…???

    Didn’t call you a dangerous psycho, but I said those thoughts of yours are dangerous as in wild. And if you think like that about a fictional story, some parts got to stick with you in irl too but whatever. But seeing how many people agree that the uke here is to blame for mainly everything, I am surprised lol.

    You made it sound like it’s justifiable for the seme to have done the things he’s done aka coercion, suicide threat, sexual assault, damaging his clothes and shit JUST because the uke isn’t giving him the attention he wants?? Sure let’s say the uke is an asshole for not ‘responding to him’, has communication issues, isn’t acting like a ‘basic human’, yadadada. As if THAT warrants him to receive those actions done by the seme. Cus you know assault and manipulation is also acting like a basic human.

    You’re making it sound like IM TRIPPING for the defending the uke which is so funny lmao. Idrc about ‘defending’ him, just saying my thoughts.

    Winouyang August 4, 2023 4:28 am
    You forgot the dude literally almost raped/sexually harassed this man?? And you’re telling me you know how to work like a basic human. Ain’t no one responding to this rapist bitch afterwards lol esp after t... Winouyang

    And fyi people like this exist in real life, they might have some sort of social or developmental disorder, maybe autism, maybe social anxiety. Sure call me cringe for this, but I’m just being real with you.

    Winouyang August 4, 2023 5:03 am
    He didn't? he tried to brush it off again for no reason like MC is a dog who doesn't deserve a normal human response. He only tried to explain himself kinda was after MC pulled some shit again for sympathy. Can... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    ‘Can you imagine having to attempt suicide every time you want a normal human response from someone’ - this was the line that made me reply to you. Maybe reread what you wrote and reevaluate? Just to clarify he doesn’t want a response from any random person, just the uke. He has an unhealthy obsession. Can you imagine being threatened to follow someone’s demands or else they attempt suicide?

    I relate to real life cus that’s just easiest way to explain and understand things imo, ofc in like theoretical/hypothetical situations. Obviously this manga is a fictional story, but shit like this actually happens irl too. But yea too cringy right. Read my replies if you want or don’t, you don’t owe me anything:)

    I don’t think uke is a saint, he seems to be hiding sus stuff anyways. Buttt putting his dismissive behavior on par with whatever that seme be doing rn, issa no from me. Idk maybe the authors writing could be better, but Idc about that, I’m arguing with you/y’all’s on your judgement of the uke here. A smartass could be an asshole, or socially challenged lol @whoever mentioned this above

    ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧ August 4, 2023 1:21 pm
    ‘Can you imagine having to attempt suicide every time you want a normal human response from someone’ - this was the line that made me reply to you. Maybe reread what you wrote and reevaluate? Just to clarif... Winouyang

    I don't blame for not understanding a single thing I've told you. Just like the uke, you're stretching nothing burger of a drama. I would really want to respond to you about how you're literally conflicting every single line you wrote and can't even remember what you were supporting but I won't gain anything from it. Some people are just meant to create arguments without even know what they're defending.

    Winouyang August 4, 2023 9:16 pm
    I don't blame for not understanding a single thing I've told you. Just like the uke, you're stretching nothing burger of a drama. I would really want to respond to you about how you're literally conflicting eve... ✧˚༓☆ Elkia ☆༓˚✧

    Sure. Can say the same about you.