Lmaoo

Both semes are toxic, we get it already. As if the fact that they were gangsters in the first place wasn't enough proof of this. Again, it's about the lesser of two evils now. It's pretty obvious. Plus, people who complain about it are like people who decided to watch an action movie and then whine later why the people in it are punching each other.

You seem to misunderstand and have carelessly simplified some of the issues here. It's one thing to say I love [name of seme here] and it's another to blatantly lie and overexagerate the details of the other with the purpose of slandering them while purposely and outrightly denying, justifying, and being lenient with the actions e.g. rape, of the other. Some people (like me) is what's more triggered by this.

Now let's be really, real here for a second. Why y'all acting as if the endgame is shrouded in ambiguity? Sooyung only solely likes Taesung and Taesung vice versa. Anything outside this pair is either purely one-sided or personal preference.

"The author is the one who’ll decide how the story will end"

Well I mean yeah, which further supports the previous paragraph of how clear the endgame is. The only chance it won't happen is if the author decides to abandon, make a full u-turn, and take a shit on the entire chapters written so far.


"subtly forcing us to take their opinion as the right one."

It's not like the stuff they say aren't based on facts tho, lol. If you did read the manhwa you're more than capable enough of recognizing facts from opinionated "facts" and lies, enough for you not be forced to take in their opinion.


Lastly, honey,

"like cause who are you to judge anyway?"

you are aware that what you wrote just now was judging others too, right?

This entire webtoon is fucked. “But it’s about gangsters” Doesn’t matter, I understand the fighting and punching, but someone getting raped every single time, seriously?

Aren’t y’all tired of this?

"but someone getting raped every single time, seriously?"

Hmm? What do you mean every single time? For a manhwa supposedly this dark, this surprisingly had less rape compared to the other BL I've read.

This webtoon has the same amount or more of physical abuse/mental abuse and rape of some other bls I’ve seen.

As for those, I'm not really sure about those. This manhwa couldn't really compare to the amount of mental and physical abuse in Painter of the Night, Dark Heaven, and Warehouse. Also, the uke here clearly likes/enjoys the rough sex so, yeah.

How about the rape tho? What did you mean by every single time?

Likes it? He’s unconscious half of the time, So it’s rape.

Whaaaat? Okay, I'm out. Not this again.

You’re literally defending someone who raped him, Just admit it. Both, Taeseung and Min-Hyuk are rapist. Simple as that. Even if Teaseung did worse, that doesn’t make an excuse for Min-Hyuk to be better. He still raped Suyeong.

Bruh, I loathe Minhyuk. He literally raped Sooyung and assaulted him early on the story.

As for Taesung, he didn't rape Sooyung. Sooyung either knows he was having sex with Taesung or he liked it or he started/instigated it. He was pretty much conscious in the times they were having sex. He usually becomes unconscious after the sex. If you say otherwise, could you direct me to the chapters where Taesung has supposedly raped Sooyung?

JAXMJS I’m so sorry, I thought you were defending Minhyuk. But I meant that part “He usually becomes unconscious after sex” but sometimes, he’s mostly really forceful.

Taesung is indeed forceful and rough but I'm really sure Sooyung likes it and Taesung kinda knows it. Remember that Sooyung is not afraid to beat up anyone that he doesn't like. He's not afraid even if his opponent is bigger than him. He bitch slapped his ex who was a huge guy when he was accused of sleeping with other guys. I mean Sooyung even brawled with Taesung when they first met and weren't in a relationship yet. And yet with all those things, not once do we see Sooyung try to beat up Taesung when they have sex. He doesn't even try to slap him. Sooyung is a closeted mild masochist. Even he himself has thought that he likes it. Maybe there was some scenes that would be kinda be dub-con but I wouldn't call it rape really.

Well alright, I see your point of view and I can agree

I like both semes tbh but Minhyuk a little bit more even if he ‘raped’ Soo Young or whatever you call it. I just simply like him and I’m free to do so. If Soo Young will end up with Minhyuk (which I kinda doubt) ok, if he ends up with Taesung I’m fine with it as well. I’d just like if ppl were more tolerant and be like ‘okay I understand if that’s what you think’ or ‘alright it’s fine if you like this and that’ etc. instead of fighting about ships and such.

I agree, and understand what you're trying to say here except for this:

"but Minhyuk a little bit more even if he ‘raped’ Soo Young or whatever you call it."

The first one was flat out assault and the upcoming one is definitely highly likely rape. And I also highly think Sooyung will not be happy if he knew what Minhyuk did to him or if he knew how Minhyuk treated Dohyun, which is essentially his bestie now.

I think it would be better if the Minhyuk fans would just directly and honestly say they prefer Minhyuk solely because they find him hotter instead of justifying that it's because Minhyuk is a more interesting character (he's quite a flat character tbh) or that because he's a better person (he's really not).

Taesung did not rape him, they both have feelings for each other( though tae has his own flaws)