Question, kinda confused, if Luca is the HEIR of WINTERWALD(?) How about Ruediger? Isn't h...

gojukento July 21, 2021 5:31 pm

Question, kinda confused, if Luca is the HEIR of WINTERWALD(?) How about Ruediger? Isn't he supposed to be in the next in line? Or not because Jona's blood runs in Luca? (Since Jonas have a blood of imperial family)

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    Sugasan July 21, 2021 5:33 pm

    Yup the heir must be royal blood like luca and his father.

    rhsbrth July 21, 2021 5:36 pm

    Its because Luca have a royal blood while Ruediger don't. Ruediger is basically a acting heir or whatever its called, so if the current duke dies and Luca's still a child Ruediger will have to be the duke until Luca can inherit the title

    gojukento July 21, 2021 5:36 pm
    Yup the heir must be royal blood like luca and his father. Sugasan

    Ohhhh. I see. Thanks

    OT7 ARMY July 21, 2021 5:39 pm

    (Sorry I accidentally voted it down.)
    In previous chapters it's explained that Ruediger is supposed to be the next in line but since he doesn't want to get married and they found out about luka's existence it was settled that luka is going to be the heir.

    Imnameim July 21, 2021 6:21 pm

    It’s because in terms of heirs, the true heir was luca’s father. If the father dies, then it goes to the son(or child in general) but if there is no son, it goes to any sibling of the firdt heir (or siblings who would have been second in line if a child didn’t exist) which would be Ruediger

    Imnameim July 21, 2021 6:27 pm
    It’s because in terms of heirs, the true heir was luca’s father. If the father dies, then it goes to the son(or child in general) but if there is no son, it goes to any sibling of the firdt heir (or sibling... Imnameim

    Ruediger, as far as i know is the second son of the current duke to the duke’s second wife. So yes, he does have royal blood. It just will always go to children of the true heir first before siblings

    OT7 ARMY July 21, 2021 8:39 pm
    Ruediger, as far as i know is the second son of the current duke to the duke’s second wife. So yes, he does have royal blood. It just will always go to children of the true heir first before siblings Imnameim

    It's a bit confusing when it to comes to who next head of the family is going to be.

    Akira July 22, 2021 5:05 am
    Ruediger, as far as i know is the second son of the current duke to the duke’s second wife. So yes, he does have royal blood. It just will always go to children of the true heir first before siblings Imnameim

    Nope, ruediger's mom doesnt have royal blood, his brother's mom which is the first wife that died is the one who has royal blood...

    Imnameim July 22, 2021 5:40 am
    It's a bit confusing when it to comes to who next head of the family is going to be. OT7 ARMY

    Royal families always work like this. The title of “heir” typically goes to the eldest child with royal blood (sometimes they don’t follow the blood rule and allow any children or distant relative like a nephew/niece to become the ruler), and in this case it has to be someone with the royal blood. Luca’s father was the next to become the duke and even had a son. So if we were to leave it like that, Luca’s father is first in line, Luca is 2nd and Ruediger is 3rd. This is because it always goes to the child first. Luca will come before Ruediger. If Luca were to grow up and have a child before Ruediger dies, Luca’s child would be next in line after Luca himself. Luca’s child would be before Ruediger. So with that said, if Luca and his child were to both somehow die (or if Luca had no child and died), then it would go to Ruediger as he is next in line and he would become the main line and from there any of his children (Ruediger’s children) would be next in line. Does that make sense at all?

    Imnameim July 22, 2021 6:12 am
    Nope, ruediger's mom doesnt have royal blood, his brother's mom which is the first wife that died is the one who has royal blood... Akira

    As far as I know, this wasn’t a case of who becomes the next king/queen, it was about who will become the next duke of Winterwald (sorry if I spelled it wrong). So for that to happen, technically the only requirement would be to have the blood of the current duke. Luca’s father was (as far as I know) born by the current duke and his first wife - this makes him first in line as an heir since he is the eldest and has the blood of the current duke. Ruediger (as far as I know), was born by the duke and his second wife - so he has the blood of the current duke and if Luca’s father were to not have had Luca, then Ruediger would have been 2nd in line. This is why the mc felt bad for Ruediger that one chapter because if she hadn’t brought Luca to the current duke’s attention, Ruediger would have been the next Duke. (+ and he would have gotten that wish thing)

    On a second note - if the duke were to marry a commoner and have a child, then that child would still be considered an heir as they have the blood of the duke (ofc this ignores any other possible children the duke might have - disclaimer this is just an example its not real). - there is no “half” mixes when it comes to nobility. If you are born of a duke father and a commoner mother, your mother will always be a “commoner” who married into the family but as soon as you have blood of the duke, you are not a commoner at all and never will be one (this is ofc ignoring the many circumstances that could cause the family to “become commoners”). This is kind of like how Luca’s mother was a commoner but Luca is still the heir because he has blood from the current duke.


    - Also from what I understand, you don’t need to have royal blood to be an heir to the duke’s title (by this royal blood I mean any blood that traces back to the royal family) so that is not the reason Ruediger is not next in line. As a personal note, I didn’t pick up anywhere that the current duke’s first wife was of royal decent, but that could just be my mistake (it doesn’t matter anyways when it comes to the being an heir of Winterwald).


    :) I hope this helps and sorry it’s a lot to read - feel free to ask questions or correct me if I’m wrong (I stand with all of my statements so far but there is always the possibility I read or interpreted something incorrectly), thanks!

    Imnameim July 22, 2021 6:25 am
    As far as I know, this wasn’t a case of who becomes the next king/queen, it was about who will become the next duke of Winterwald (sorry if I spelled it wrong). So for that to happen, technically the only req... Imnameim

    I should make a quick disclaimer that I previously threw the term “royal blood” around carelessly. I didn’t mean royal blood as in blood tracing to the royal family, I meant the Duke’s blood (this excludes the one time I did use it as the true meaning - I stated that there).

    So both Luca’s father and Ruediger have the Duke’s blood (this means Luca also has this) and that just means they both are heirs of Winterwald, it just typically goes to the eldest (or only) child first. In this case, Luca’s father had Luca, so as his father was the first heir, it rightfully has to go through Luca before it can go to Ruediger.

    My apologies, I’m becoming a broken record at this point but I just wanted to clear up that misunderstanding)