But like… soohyun is super aggressive and daon is conscious that he is capable of physically hurting seunghyeon. I understand your point about age and all but seunghyeon was aware from the start what he was getting into.
Manipulation is not something you can just shake off and talk off when you have been in that situation 8+ years.
Haha, I like this story cos it brings up many discussions like this ^^’
Ya but I said that Seunghyeon agreeing to this kind of relationship doesn't really change anything. This agreement is not making Daon actions less 'bad'. It's still sh*tty.
And ya, Soohyun is agressive. We can guess that he has hurted someone in the past. Still personally I would prefer fight than hearing that someone I like is having sex behind the door.
Then what would Daon do since he can’t reject Soohyun?? We have seen he’s not afraid to hurt him either.
Does he really cannot reject him? It's not like he is alone. Seunghyeon is with Daon.
I get that looking at their relationship, it's not this simple. Saying 'no' is hella hard. Ending toxic relations is hella hard. But it can be done. Really.
Personally I would call police. I know my words can sound cruel but for me everything is better than what Daon has done (or maybe not because we didn't see sex scene).
PS I love those discussions too. This topic is extremely hard because it just shows that people are not black&white. There is not bad or good, it's always somewhere between.
All of us experienced things in life that changed us forever. But hurting is always bad. At the same time, it doesn't mean that we are bad if we hurt someone. Being bad is making the same mistake again and again, even if we are conscious of it. We can always heal. Though it's not easy.
I just looked at the raws and I’m more confused now, but well, Daon still doesn’t know jaemin is a sly fox.
Yeah it cannot be black and white, I try to look at it from his perspective and it hurts even more because seunghyeon is such a good guy so we as readers may find the mc too troublesome to deal with.
Also if I think about it, it’s not like Daon hasn’t done anything. He had the courage to confess so soohyun wouldn’t have the upper hand, I think that was a step up from trying to get out of there and I think that last scene was to show us how soohyun was dominating daon, I doubt it will happen again. From what I spoiled myself it looks like he has enough feelings for seunghyeon now to get away from those jerks.
Gosh, I hope he will find this strength. Especially he has found this person which will fight and wait for him.
You're... not serious right. Oh my god you are. What is this opinion I'm horrified. Yikes. Not the victim blaming.
Well, for me being victim doesn't excuse everything. I can accidentally hurt someone because someone in the past has done sth bad to me too. But I still hurted someone.
Of course I didn't want it. But it was done.
So am I blameless because sth happened in my past?
And person who hurted me in the past is blameless too?
Nah, we are always making choices. Accidentally it can be bad one. But you have to accept it and go on. Go on and try to heal, to be better person.
Or you can stay in your comfort place and try not to see that it's comfortable only because you don't know any other pattern. And because you are, for example, escaping from reality.
Seeing all comments that Daon is not toxic warmed me up so here I am. Like idk, our life and history doesn't justify hurting others. I thought it was obvious. Usually if we hurt others, we were hurted before.
We can talk about how trauma can affect life. If we don't relieve it, we will be doing other people what has been done to us.
Yas, Daon has been hurted but it's not like he is 20 year old who is just starting his adult life and generally life. He is 30. I know that u can always say, that age doesn't matter.
In this case I think it is matter. He has a common sense what is life, he made some other connections with people. And what is he doing?
Toxic as*hole comes back from other country? He is meeting him.
Manipulative prof plays innocent but I can say he is the biggest sh*t here.
Anyway, he know he is wrong. He tells office sweetie that he is bad person. He is conscious but he is not changing anything.
Like when he meets this agressive asshole at his house and he is like 'this is one of my weird situations'. Fu*k. It's not weird. It's sick.
You are literally having sex with agressive guy and your 'boyfriend' waits for u on a hallway. There is not explanation for this I can accept.
And we are not talking about that office sweetie agreed to this relationship. No, that's not the case.
The case is that Daon actions toward office sweetie are hella toxic.