I am. I was raped in my sleep so... Yeah, this reminded me a lot of bad memory...
I'm so sorry! This novel is problematic with how the MC forces himself and it's treated as totally okay, it bothers me a lot, especialy because apart from this the story is interesting. I can read and tell it's not okay but watching no comment about it was higly disturbing (￣∇￣") I hope someone will one day make a list of "No problematic webtoons/mangas romance relationships"
There's a shocking amount of sexual assault disguised as romance in manga; I almost feel as if it were addressed in the text and acknowledged by the characters as something wrong it would be less terrible at least but the fact that it's hidden in these love stories as just another evolution of a couples' relationship really bothers me.
I remember reading Hot Gimmick as a kid and being like, "Oh this is totally normal," when it is totally not.
Don't be! It's okay!
But yeah, i'm reaaaally afraid of how it's treated in manga, like, i don't mind if the autor write something like this because it's how their characters are developping, BUT they must explain and explicit that it's not okay in real life and nobody can do that
Not 2 Be Insensitive But..
But you don't care? It's okay! But please, understand that the scene, transposed in reality, it's called a rape.
To You And A Handful Of People. Imagine You've Been In A Relationship With Ur Partner For A While And U Still Dont Trust Them Enough 2 Know That They Wouldn't Do Some Over The Top Foul Shit To U. U Probably Shouldnt Be In That Relationship If 'Unconsented' Trust Isnt Established. Not Unconsented In The Sense Of Spending My Credit Card Or Giving Away Personal Items. Unconsent As In 'Oh I Trust U Enough To Know That You Only Have Good Intentions'. Because U Obviously Shouldn't Be In That Relationship If U Cant Trust Ur Partner To That Extent. I Obviously Cant Shake You From This "Ots Rape" Mentality So Im Just Giving My Viewpoint On It. Also I Apologize If My Comment Seemed Insensitive To The Girl Who Felt Uncomfy With Me Telling Her To Drop The Book Because Of Her Past Circumstances. I Meant That If This Scene Is Really Triggering Unwanted Memories To Resurface She Should Distance Herself To Help Herself.
Also Im Curious About Your Thoughts On Morning Kisses. Because A Lot Of Couples Wake Up Their Partner With Kisses. Is That Assault?
Oh you want to play dirty? FINE!
Here, you can't talk about trust, neither of them trust the other, it's the base of this story!
And for my case, I was raped by a friend, not my boyfriend, and yeaaaah, i trusted him to not rape me but yeeeah, he did it. After that, i falled in love with a guy that i trusted, the cutest and sweetest guy, in first look, but, i was traumatised by my precedent rape so yeah, i had problem for having sex, and guess what? He also raped me, yeah, I was a fool! I was a fool because he manipulated me, he said that i had a problem i had to confront, and so, by having sex. So he forced himself on me. IT WAS HORRIBLE, because I was "in fault". I hated myself for having said yes (oh! So it's not a rape you will say?), i begin to have a despise for my body wich was "dirty", i hated all about me a the sexual act.
Your message is... Yicks. You blames the victim without even understand a little bit of the human psychology. It's pathetic.
You didn't even read my comm, if so, you would have understand that i wasn't triggered by the scene, but by how it was treated.
Oh, excuse me, maybe you're not smart enough to understand that we can write a scene because it's logic and important for the développement of the characters AND showing that this is not okay in reality.
you aren't smart enough to understand that what triggered us was not the action, but the fact that she never said yes, nor in the past nor now, and they obsviously don't have the complicity to "guess" that, aren't you?
So no, i don't care of morning kisses, i don't even care if my boyfriend wake me up in me, but it's because we have this complicity and i told him that it's okay.
Here? Ah! She does'nt even know that he loves her, OBVIOUSLY it's not the case of a Loving couple, so YES, this is a rape sweetheart.
Ive Already Apologized For Telling U To Quote "Leave If Your Uncomfy" And I Explained From My View Point. Ill Say Once Again That I SUGGESTED That If It Causes Unwanted Memories To Resurface U Should Distance Yourself. I Never In Any Comment Tried To Make Rape Seem Okay So Im Not Understanding The Life Story Comment. And I Would Never Victim Blame. Look At The Past Comment I Made. Where Did I Victim Blame. Its Never Their Fault For What Happened And It Wasn't Your Fault. And I Wasnt Trying To "Play Dirty" I Was Giving My Opinion. Lets Agree To Disagree
Also, Not Everyone Will Betray Trust. Sorry 4 What Happened To U And Is 100% Isn't Ur Fault Just Letting U Know People Aren't All The Same
"Not Everyone Will Betray Trust" feels like "I'm a nice guy" to me.
I get both points : consent and trust about what the other would do or not do.
I've read testimonies about sexual assaults and it is often common situations where one thinks that what he does is okay and the other didn't consent and is not taken seriously. So it is cases of broken trusts and sexual assaults.
The webnovel and webtoon Lucia has many moments during sex where Lucia says explicitly she doesn't want to keep going or it is too much for her and the ML doesn't listen to her, and tricks her again and again. So to me it already triggered warnings in my head. And then we have this moment where he have sex with her body while she's asleep and wonders how far he can go before she wakes up. Isn't it scary to you?
I Meant ' Not Everyone Will Betray Trust' As In Dont Be Afraid To Trust Just Because Its Been Broken Before. And Again, In My Opinion Whether Is Scary Or Not Depends On The Circumstances And The Amount Of Trust. Not Everyone Has That Trust And Thats Understandable. But Some Do And That's Also Understandable.
No one is bothered by the "let's just see how far I can go before she wakes up?"