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Do you know what's outrageous? That 9/11 victims suing to the middle easterns. It's not like the U.S paid back to countries like Japan or any place they've hurt citizens before. And what about the victims in the middle east? They can't sue for the war damage that U.S has caused?

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While demonizing Russia and ISIS while thinking who they're supporting are so much better.

I said we are not better. Not that they are better. I also precised Russia is doing it for their own self-interests, and while it does match with the Middle East' interests as of right now, I did not claim they're doing it because they're doing "the good".

Very true. Though once they have conquered, they should cherish and spoil a little, I think.

Yeah, well like anywhere else, it'd work if both parties truly wished to be reunified.

Which I assume they don't lol.

It might be more like they are too different now to reunite? I don't know much about them, but South Korea seems pretty open, and North Korea has been indoctrinated for a long time under Communist rule, they might be suffering from extreme Stockholm syndrome (?) or something akin to that.

Yeah well, it doesn't seem impossible, but it's indeed not Germany. There's the 71 years division, so it'd be harder for North Koreans to integrate, I assume. 25 million of people who were told that Kim was a god saving them from South Korea and the USA.

Then again, I can't say for sure that what they have to tell to the media, what we see, necessarily means that they really don't think for themselves.

Oh no you don't. It will never work and Kim is not a god so I don't get what 25 million people are talking about. The people may have suffered from under communism but I still don't trust them. One time some NK women went to China by a trick (I think) but in the media they hated (even the south) and wanted to go back to the North.

Never trust the North and for this month's earthquake in SK we all know it's by the north's nuclear test that cause the quake.

I don't think that it is a matter of not thinking for themselves, but after believing wholeheartedly in one thing (your nation/god/political affiliation etc.) and then suddenly having it turned completely around is an easy step. And if they are happy with the way things are, then yanking that away will only cause resentment and rebellion, throwing an entire nation that is slim on resources, infrastructure and such, into utter chaos. It is like trying to convert an extremely devout religious person into an atheist, it runs counter to everything they are.

Yeah, but they polled a hundred NK that had the opportunity of spending time in China, working or visiting relatives (yes, with the intent of returning) and they seemingly showed lots of interest in reuniting. So I was willing to entertain the idea that what we see might be exaggerated.

"Like South Koreans, the North Koreans showed a lot of interest in reunification: 95 of them said that it was necessary, largely for economic reasons. An overwhelming number believed that they would personally benefit from reunification.

The vast majority expected that reunification would take place “through negotiations between the two Koreas on equal footings after reforms and an opening-up of the North.”"

Then again, quite the unusual cohort to be polled aha. The probably do not reflect the 25 million others that have not engaged with "the outside world".

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2014/07/10/2014071000658.html

I just remembered something, completely random, they're turning insects in cyborgs nowadays.

They've found a way to remote-control insects (beetles, as of right now). You could even attach a small microphone, they're looking to attach chips that could deliver images.

Of course, they're intended to be used to spy.

True, and there is always the one wierdo ... erm ... black sheep in the bunch. Perhaps those polled want to bring SK into the fold as opposed to dropping communism and adopting democracy. China did not really embrace democracy and is still more communist despite the supposed shift, which might also be why the N Koreans liked it (thinking they were in a democracy?)

"The big lie they’re told is that the war was started when the US, occupying South Korea at the time, attacked the unsuspecting North to try to take control over the whole country. They’re told that Kim Il Sung valiantly staved off the Americans and the Americans shrank back in defeat, then continued to occupy South Korea until this day."

Maybe they want to save the South Koreans from the Americans? ╮(￣▽￣)╭

They also don't call themselves North Korea. It's "Korea". All the maps you'll find in NK depicts NK and SK combined. The South is just "unfortunately currently occupied by the Imperialists Americans".

They can try. The law is neutral on it's face, at least in the US. They may have a problem if the two countries were officially at war at the time, even if civilians were injured, because US law see a difference, even if you do not. They would also have to prove causation. It can't be something a vague as politics or list of bad things a country did that would "make" wrongdoers act badly. Wrongdoers are still responsible for their own acts even if they feel they were provoked or egged on.

Its face, damn it, its face. Stupid extra apostrophe for no reason--why did I choose that one?

Well, the US does give foreign aid and do other things internationally that help others too. There was a book called "The Mouse that Roared" where a fictional small country wanted the US to declare war on them just to get the post-war aid spoofing this. Because many experts believed WWIII was caused in part by Germany's inability to recover after WWI, we actually put a lot of money into reconstruction (Well, at least on the west of Germany). Other US Allies (aka 'The West") also contributed to the recovery of Germany and Japan--and others. The Marshal plan really allowed these countries to rebuild at our 9a collective allies our0 expense. That money came with many strings attached where we imposed our will, but there was aid.

The US still gives economic assistance to many countries as well as military aid. It's given to support USgoal, but it is given. It may not be much in the grand scheme of things, but it's not all bombs and military camps. We do try for economic stability if we can contribute to it. Anf there e is the Peace Core.Historically, how many conquering nations set up a Peace Core? I mean, Rome built roads and all that, but the goals of the Peace Core are different.

The US and the West are not just governments. There are many private and business organizations that are based in the US and 'the West' that benefit other countries too. Whether the aid comes from charity or from CSR public relations motives, the fact is that money does flow from the US and western countries into those that need aid, and it some cases it makes people lives better. Yes, we are the same US that has international operatives sometimes acting in questionable schemes, sends in troops and drops bombs--but we can be generous too.

How could anyone possibly know what most NKs want when they live under a regime that violently suppresses free speech? I'm not saying i think they want to be united--just that I have no idea what people there might think.

Doh again. Corps. Peace Corps. You need a magic decoder ring for my posts.

First, Europe had been a great market for American goods; without a prosperous Europe, the United States might have suffered a severe economic depression.

Second, without American aid, Western Europe might have used socialist or Communist methods to rebuild, and U.S. leaders considered that undesirable.

Third, Western Europe appeared open to influence by the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics (USSR), which the United States was beginning to see as its main rival.

Fourth, West Germany (now part of the united Federal Republic of Germany), historically the continent's industrial hub, had to be rebuilt as a buffer against Soviet expansion; European fears of their World War II foe would lessen only if the Germans were integrated into a larger Europe.

Sometimes peace is good for business, sometimes it's war.

Many, many charities are pure frauds. Fact is, they are businesses, too. They have agendas. It's hard to undercover, but take Greg Mortenson. Once embraced by the US military, Barack Obama, Oprah and millions of Americans - it turned out that half the schools built in Afghanistan are sitting empty.

Why so? There was one place where an empty school: it turns out that the village is the home of a notorious commander that was really abusive to the local community who, in exchange for donating the land on which the school sits, extracted a contract from the US military worth hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Yay for funding warlords.

Well some do want freedom but others may think their country is "great" (whether brainwash or not). Did you even know that some defectors who live in SK do crimes while some don't? And if the country becomes united the economy will be much worse then before. You think they will last long if they block every foreigners import or trading deals because they hate them? (Remember, they hate America and threaten them. use missiles at Japan as well SK too)

I'm glad all nations even stop the sanctions 'cause what's the point when before they (the north) begged and thank after receiving the funds but next thing it's like "you don't give enough and we're better so back off". Such a repeated cycle.

Cannibalism. I feel sorry for the people forcing to eat human meat as a last resort (stupid dictator) but do you think their craving will stop after Korea unify? One man killed multiple women and he was a defector (I'm pretty sure. It was an old news) and do you know why? Not only murder but to eat so really I detest this Korea becomes one ideal.

Foreigners don't know anything about North and must have forgotten how they hate and twofaced at the world.