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Just a late comment to conversation; I should think that different individual experiences, and how a person responds to them could alter the rate of how fast the brain matures and developes. I would also think factors like hygiene and diet can inhibit or facilitate development. And as mentioned above, culture and lifestile would definitely have an impact.

Like BMI, which is a medical genralization and average about a large population group, how applicable that number is to any individual is debatable. Personal background, history, genetics are usually far more relevant to determine if a person is within healthy parameters. I would guess there would be a great deal of individual variation based on what we experienced, and how 'adult' we had to become at an early age, and how we basically respond to life. Some people never achieve maturity no matter the age.

I think we tend to like these kind of rules because they are simple and clear cut. There is also some truth to them. Most people don't seem to reach full maturity before early 20's in my experience, and I have traveled around quite a bit. But I have also learned the wisdom of not applying generalizations to indivduals, but judging them on their own merits, as all rules have (plenty of) exceptions.

Where are you from? Not the US, they are still pretty religious and very violent - (ie 20 mass shootings this year alone!) It is true we were 'converted' pretty late - something like the 16th century is when it gained a strong foothold and we became 'officially Lutheran, but it never gained the craziness of zealotry like some places.

I'm from Canada aha. But Quebec, the French province. The English took over, we were there before :(

Aha, I don't really care myself, just joking.

I'd say we have pretty much the same relationship with the rest of Canada that Scotland has with the UK? At least when we travel in Scotland there there's a quick brotherhood that forms with the locals xD. But there's no way we're going to separate at this point, thankfully. The economy would wreck.

Basically, we're in Canada but have our own culture. It clashes from times to times on certain ideas, but really Canadian issues are never really that big of a deal anyway lol. Stuff like "we don't want English as an official second language here" whining. We like it when they let us do our own stuff. We make it difficult for them lol, they always have to make exceptions, though I feel that with the older generation slowly dying off that's toning down.

Can't say I really know much about the rest of Canada actually, nor am I really interested. It's wierd, but I just don't really feel "canadian" xD. We never hear about them, probably just because our TV is French lol.

Denmark actually was pretty quick to become Lutheran in 1536, considering Luther was publishing his views in 1521. Sadly it can be argued it had more to do with a coup d'etat and getting rid of the Catholic church that backed up the old order and not the rebel nobles. However, in the end power still got even more centralized than before, so nobles ended up simply getting rid of the belief system that had been their security as well and lost out. And the only real witch hunts we had was at the insistence of a protestant king. But then there were always more witch hunts in Protestant counties than Catholic.

Very true except the majority of witch hunting was from Catholic regions in Europe.. Christianity started getting introduced in the late 10th century, but the witch hunts were started by the Catholics ... to quote Python "Nobody expected the Spanish Inquisition". France was also heavily Catholic during the worst of the witch hunts, as was most of Europe from the early 6th century on. It was not until the 18th century that these horrific practices started to ease.

Yeah, the bitter and bloody fruits of fanatism. （￣へ￣）

That are still showing in some places, like the US currently, or North Korea... or ... or... ┗( T﹏T )┛

I know that it's worse in other places, by the way I'm agnostic...but with a religious minded family and roots ┗( T﹏T )┛

The Inquisition wasn't as such targeting witches, but heretics, not that that makes it any better. When examined numerically, trials and deaths with witchcraft as the crime, significantly more occurred in Protestant countries and areas. Protestants also, as did Catholics, considered heretics a danger to the community and put them to death. Strangely, and relevantly enough, a great deal of this was brought about by the climate changes of the time (the Little Ice Age), which was seen as God's punishment, and necessitated finding the corrupting and guilty persons to blame for it. Oddly much of the way we phrase the climate debate today bears a striking resemblance to back then, despite a change in paradigm (supposedly) from a religious to a scientific understanding of how the world and universe works.

"they are still pretty religious and violent' what have you been reading ?you come from a small country of course you will have a low over all crime rate. Pat yourself on the back. I live in a mid size town in the US with a mix of people and beliefs. We mang. quite well. We are a country respects all relig. even the right to have none. As for the violent part, we are a country at war. although some would not want to call the shootings acts of terror. Just look at France. Look at what they are dealing with that is real life no fairy tale.

True, I guess I was kind of lumping them together, and the recurrent plagues as well as the little ice age did, indeed contribute to the hysteria. (I am more a historian of pre-Martin Luther Europe than post, so I tend to look at witches/heresy both as practices the church wanted to eliminate)

Wow! I never thought I would see such a lovely discussion on a manga page, so enjoyable to read all these comments ... thanks!

I just happen to know from reading a fascinating book on climate and history, as well as another on tolerance as defined by religion. That is besides what I generally learned and picked in the course my studies. I was more into Chinese history. But I agree with you, pre-Luther Europe is generally more interesting. Generally, the older it gets, the more interesting I find it.

I am just going to leave this for you ... https://www.google.ca/search?q=religion+and+peace+map&biw=1125&bih=730&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiDgZCTwbTPAhXE7IMKHeP3BOoQsAQIGw#imgrc=izNMr5LdsTTldM%3A and this ... https://www.google.ca/search?q=crime+rates+world+map&tbm=isch&imgil=JlqC6l0MSwazuM%253A%253B1wSKbuqky099gM%253B https%25253A%25252F%25252Fen.wikipedia.org%25252Fwiki%25252FList_of_countries_by_intentional_homicide_rate&source=iu&pf=m&fir=JlqC6l0MSwazuM%253A%252C1wSKbuqky099gM%252C_&usg=__-OKQlpS7ZNKdvom3bzI1OvUu19s%3D&biw=1125&bih=730&dpr=0.9&ved=0ahUKEwiB8cKLwrTPAhWE6oMKHYiEAnUQyjcIMQ&ei=zADtV4HbH4TVjwSIiYqoBw#imgrc=JlqC6l0MSwazuM%3A ... oh, and as for France: http://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/France/United-States/Crime (Just a quick google search, mind you) refugees to Europe: http://www.pewglobal.org/2016/08/02/number-of-refugees-to-europe-surges-to-record-1-3-million-in-2015/ Refugees to USA: http://iipdigital.usembassy.gov/st/english/article/2013/10/20131023285033.html

Hehe, my special interest was 900-1300 Northern Europe (including the Crusades) Although I did one senior level course on Mexican history on a whim - fun stuff!
Ahhh, the crusades! I once had to do a paper on 'peace' in the middle ages - finding material on that, when historians tend to focus on battles, was a real pain in the neck! And the history of medicine - scary! They used to use astrology to cure the Black Death! (among other odd interventions)

Oh, and considering Denmark has a population density of 132 people/sq. km compared to 32/sq km in the US, (oh and France 103/sq km) they should have a higher crime rate - but they don't.

I like Middle Ages period so much. Thanks for all the information. There's something that I want to say about the Spanish Inquisition: They didn't burn only witches and heretics but political enemies too (marking them as heretics), but I'm not completely sure about this fact.

Bites, when I was still living in Europe I had the same ideas about so many things about the US, I completely changed my mind when I started living in a big city of the US. In the place which I live there is a good tolerance for any belief and respect for all ethnicities. I know it is some kind of stereotype, before I came here I had the idea that more or less every American citizen had a gun in their houses, the reality is completely different.

LOL--I was raised my Missouri Synod Lutherans in a northern state, and while we may not have many mass shootings (I think it's too damn cold up where I was born) they are just as Bibble thumping in their way as the Southern Baptists or any other god-botherer--we are just quieter about it, and then we serve coffee and danish in the basement after service.

While the US undoubtedly has a problem with mass shootings and gun violence, I will assert that the US is big--and most communities in the US never see that kind of thing.

I don't know if I'm wrong, but I have the impression (coming from a place that is in part Catholic- but the State define itself as secular) that in the Us there's a formal adhesion to religions and churches, but people tend to consider it more like an habit.