if u... notice..

Like, as I started higher education at 17, then is it wrong if I, theoretically, dated a 22 years old that was in the same class and, granted he doesn't drop, will be for the next 3 years?

Never crossed my mind it'd be wrong lol. We were all equals, regardless of the age.

We just get to have people have the same expectations from us as any other adult at 17 (if you were born in summer). Albeit we can't drink just yet (it's at 18, oops).

So yeah, I may be biased, it may depend on how scolarity is handled.

*born in summer though isn't exact, it's just that if you did you're 17 the whole first year. Which is a pain when the group wants to go drink but can't because a few couldn't xD.

The other route though is not getting higher education and getting your first steps in your career at 16-17.

In the US, age of consent varies from state to state, but it's usually between 15 and 17--but the statutes often put in age gaps so that it may be legal for two 16-year-olds to go at it, but not for a 40-year-old and a 16-year-old. There are also certain relationships that involve positions of authority and trust (e.g. high school teachers) that can't go at it with students, even if the student is 18. But just because something is legal doesn't mean it's ethical or a good idea.

I think we see so many "high school' shows on TV where the actors are in their twenties, that sometimes people forget how young 15 is. 15 is very young. And 40...40 is not 15, not even an immature 40 and a mature 15. Maybe you have to be my age to see it--but it is so.

I did well, got a job (weoo two at first 1 full and one part time to save for school), place to live, car, put myself through college and University, bought my own home and such. My younger brothers did not move out until after 25 ... I guess I was just more mature.
As for my friend - very strict Catholic upbringing, but she was so sheltered an immature ╮(￣▽￣)╭

oops *well*, not weoo - need to cut my nails LOL

Yeah, but out of 100, you can maybe see 1-2 that don't act and seem their age at all. I have vivid memories as well as pictures of me and my friends at that age, it's fine, and I don't watch american TV nor do I take Glee as a reference xD. I guess it's more common in the English Canada though, doesn't have to get through an horrible dub.

My point though wasn't that "every relationship with a teenager is good", far from that, but that it's "not necessary from wrong intentions, and maybe even not that bad". Just to precise.

And no. 40 on 15. Yeah, no. I was thinking more of under 30 :P.

Adult is broad huh xD. You're an adult at 18, but also at 90.

Anyway xD.

LOL If my fat old fingers could type on a touch screen(or even a keyboard), some of my rantings would make sense.

I admit I am primarily thinking of teens in high school. Though 18 and 19 are still "teens", I do think of them as "young adults". I am not as concerned about 18-year-olds as I am about 15-year-olds or 16-year-olds. And I admit it--I will judge any adult over 25 who dates someone in high school. When they are that young, the age gap matters.

No amount of taking on adult roles speeds the development of the brain. It's physical and biological. Good genes can help you mature faster, taking on adult roles doesn't make a brain develop more gray matter faster any more than chanting "I must increase my bust" gives a middle schooler boobs. It's just how the body works. Of course, some people develop early. Still, young is young.

You did well, and you deserve to be proud. Still, I would bet you thought differently at 18 than you do now--even if you were great at 18. It would be rare for people not to grow over time. It's not that 18 is incompetent or unable--just young.

Oh--thanks for saying that. For me, high school is 15/16-17/18 (four years). Then most people go to college for another 4 years (which often socially and emotionally defers adult thinking--but I am not as worried about college students).

Oh, I don't know about intentions--but I do think that even when the teen is mature and takes on some adult roles, a gap between a adult who has taken an adult role and a teen is inherently unequal. If you're just talking about a college student dating a high school student, that's not always such a gap in maturity, though if it were my son or daughter, I'd nix it. Kids grow up too damned fast. High school students should be thinking about college and careers--and maybe their clubs or activities. There will be time to date later.

Yeah. Here it's 12-13 to 16-17. Middle school isn't a concept here either. Then there's college, you either do a pre-university diploma for two years or three years of technical diploma.

But hmm, if it wasn't like that, then yeah, I guess it's even more tricky. It's just that I feel that at 17 you're already and adult, well expected to act as such (people start to get apartments, student jobs to pay for the rent and their food etc.), or at least there wasn't much of a difference felt with other early 20 years old aside from "experience". And even then, that was felt more initially, like in the first few months.

So it feels more like you're in the "same stage" and going through the same things. I guess that's why people think it feels off, when it's not that way, and well it's just something else here so my perspective is what it is xD.

In the US, you can't buy alcohol till you are 21. For some things, you are a legal adult at 18. Again, I am not as worried about "young adults" as I am about adolescents (which is probably a better word than 'teen") but I am concerned about potential inequalities and power imbalance. The younger the teen, the more large age gaps matter.

Also, in the US, they did a study that showed most teen pregnancies were fathered by adults over 20 (often in their 30s or 40s). Sometimes once an adult gets an adolescent pregnant, he buggers off and lets the state pay for the child. Not always, but it happens enough to make it a statistical trend. While that is not my primary objection to large age gaps when one partner is still a teen, I am probably influenced by the fact that taxpayer often ends up paying for the baby once the adult is done playing with the teen and takes off. That may be a cold way of looking at it, but there you go. I am very suspicious of large age gaps between adults who have taken on adult roles and adolescents. Even if the adult is immature, I see problems.

Huh, here people don't marry anymore. If they do, it's just for the heck of it. Like, after 20 years of living together, they want to make something special. It's there if you want to throw a massive sum of money to celebrate and think marriages are beautiful. It's not really for any sort of practical purpose.

We've become pretty much a non-religious society though. We rank pretty damn high in the world in terms of people being the least religious lol. So yeah, you don't "lock down" anyone by marrying if you're not having any faith in marriages lol.

It's really something how I feel so out of touch every time I'm on the English Internet xD.

Haha... I laugh so hard.. when I read yout comment. ..(≧∀≦)

Wooooo... my comment be some "famous" topic...LOL(≧∀≦)

Its kinda hard for me.. to follow a reply that u guys leave here...(￣∇￣")

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Ok, in general though, to reassure you, I do half-agree with your point. It's just that, I guess I prefer to doubt myself and keep an open mind. It's really just that ultimately xD.

Ah, teen pregnancies. But abortion is very popular here. If they don't get one, they just really wanted to keep it. I mean, we have free health care on top of that, so it costs nothing to get one.

We can drink at 16 here, plus we have the option of skipping some high school in favour of vocational training - so many of us are out working at our chosen careers at 18. We are also pretty secular, so while we are officially Christian, we don't really have a lot of die hard believers, and were pretty peaceful too. We are also pretty socialist - health care, free university, great social programs etc.

Ah, so it's pretty much the same actually :). You can drink at whatever age here, just not in bars. Well I'm not sure if technically the law has any issue with that, but I've never been in trouble xD.

We need that vocational training though O.o. High school, I can't :P. But hey, I started working at 20, I'm not going to complain too much :).

Honestly I have the theory that the least religious somewhere is, the less trouble there is. Not being die hard believers, we don't really have issues with believers as long as they mostly keep it to themselves, so yeah. That and mostly, less multiculturalism (unless you're Canada, save here, and your identity is pretty much multiculturalism lol). Like, minorities do extremely great here, gay marriage legalized for now 11 years already without fuss and whatnot, nobody really has issues with other ethnicities that share similar values, but if people were to feel a certain culture was "taking over" (going well over the current 5% of the population) it'd start to not be just as pretty I feel.

It's like, people aren't really xenophobic, but we're proud of our own culture. It's that one thing that ties up all together and make us a pretty peaceful place (that and I assume socialism).

Seriously, I live in a pretty big city (about as much people as Las Vegas), it's been a year and a half since anyone has been murdered here. And when it happens, it's domestic issues that have gone wrong. It's some sort of catastrophic event when it happens.

And you can shout to the world that you love yaoi without being stoned to death :0

Makes me think of Japan, irreligious and homogenous, not that much crime happening (though they have lots more people in there lol).

Ah, in 2015 our country had less than 50 murders, we don't tend to be xenophobic - as we have immigrants from everywhere, and crime levels are fairly low. We only have about 5.5v million residents though - but were a pretty small country if you exclude Greenland (which is sparsely populated) I have family in Canada, nice country - pretty peaceful and multicultural and less religious than most - must be some correlation...

Oh, we legalized same sex relationships in 1933, and gay marriage in 1989 - plus the age of consent is 15 ... pretty liberal

Ah, but the church was still very much in power here in 1933. The cleric went in your home and was like "hmm, not enough babies, make some more or God won't like you" (I dunno really, something like that lol) so I don't think they'd let homosexual relationships be legalized xD.

We went from one of the most religious places to one of the least in a pretty short span. We have a pretty wierd history, but basically the church used to be the very anchor of our culture. You know, being people (mostly people trying to get a new life initially) from France having to survive in that new place called America, it was easy for them to abuse of some power, the King not caring all that much about what happened here lol. And then the English came in, wanting people to turn protestants, so people sided and became pretty dependant of the church trying to defend christianism :L. Wierd history xD.

Basically somewhere in the 20th century women decided they wouldn't have any of it anymore xD (and along with that gay rights came in). And the Church was utterly destroyed from there on, we became extremely liberal etc.