Guys, if you don't have the patience for some Sibel character development, please just dro...

히히 July 10, 2021 3:32 pm

Guys, if you don't have the patience for some Sibel character development, please just drop this. This manhwa is obviously not for you. (I feel like you guys just want the "already perfect" characters). The same goes to those people who doesn't want to try to understand nor interpret Sibel's actions. You guys just read the manhwa as it is whilst not trying to theorize nor interpret certain situations. And it's upsetting cause there have been many misinterpreted characters before that got the hate they didn't even deserve. And the most frustrating part is, nobody seems to learn their lessons. Certain characters do what they do because of a reason. Especially the ML/FL/end games. Because why would the MC choose them if they were wrong or bad in the first place?

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    TricksterGod July 10, 2021 5:50 pm

    I can understand how readers can sometimes be impatient when it comes to character development, but readers hating Sibel makes sense here considering the genre of the original novel Marilyn read and how it ended for Larensia. She’s literally trying to prevent that ending from happening again, so readers being critical and not excusing his behavior now doesn’t mean they don’t expect him to change later on.

    Jayjay July 10, 2021 10:53 pm

    Er, you do realize that most of the ML/FL/end games in most Mary Sue-centered and cliché-filled romance novels are usually wrong and bad, from a realistic and real world perspective? That's exactly why they're called "cliché" and "Mary-sue-ish"

    Jayjay July 10, 2021 10:58 pm
    I can understand how readers can sometimes be impatient when it comes to character development, but readers hating Sibel makes sense here considering the genre of the original novel Marilyn read and how it ende... TricksterGod

    Exactly. The genre of the novel that these characters originally belonged in had already determined that most of them would be sick in the head, in some way... We're meant to realize that they were all originally inside a very badly-written, cliché-filled, Mary Sue-centered, shallow novel. That's why Marilyn has such a hard time changing the plot.

    Jayjay July 10, 2021 11:06 pm
    Er, you do realize that most of the ML/FL/end games in most Mary Sue-centered and cliché-filled romance novels are usually wrong and bad, from a realistic and real world perspective? That's exactly why they're... Jayjay

    By the way, I say that because I feel this story is quickly heading in the same direction as "Beware of the villainess", where the characters' cliché and nauseating behavior got a lot worse before they started getting better.

    히히 July 11, 2021 5:34 am
    I can understand how readers can sometimes be impatient when it comes to character development, but readers hating Sibel makes sense here considering the genre of the original novel Marilyn read and how it ende... TricksterGod

    I can understand that, however, there have also been many cases where the OGFL/MC would turn out to be the bad person all along. I'm not necessarily saying Lara is bad, it's just we don't know what the author plans for this story. From a writer's perspective, they would always want to throw plot twists here and there that would surprise the readers. Like they would write something about ML being misunderstood later on. So I don't get the idea on why we readers should let ourselves be fooled (sorry for the words). Especially when it is already obvious Mari would end up with Sibel.

    히히 July 11, 2021 5:40 am
    Er, you do realize that most of the ML/FL/end games in most Mary Sue-centered and cliché-filled romance novels are usually wrong and bad, from a realistic and real world perspective? That's exactly why they're... Jayjay

    Yes, but we read in real world author's perspective. And most writers would always want their books to be unique so they try to throw plot twists here and there. And most of the time, they just make it as ML being misunderstood all along. So I don't get the idea on why we readers should be fooled (sorry for the word), and hate on certain characters. Then later regret what we did and said. Especially when we all know where this story would end (Mari ending up with Sibel).

    Jayjay July 11, 2021 6:03 am
    Yes, but we read in real world author's perspective. And most writers would always want their books to be unique so they try to throw plot twists here and there. And most of the time, they just make it as ML be... 히히

    Haha, well, it's just the way many people enjoy a story, I guess. They love hating certain characters and enjoy a story more when they find a character to hate. On the other hand, no matter what happens later on in the story, it is still somewhat true that the ML at the present is being, at least, annoying... so, if revealing the ML as misunderstood means that an author once again will eventually throw some sob backstory of the ML's at the readers' faces, to try to get them to excuse the ML's less than stellar prior moments, many readers may not fall for it just the same, and rather than start feeling pure sympathy for the ML like the author wants, and regretting what they said before, they may feel annoyed at seeing yet another author try to manipulate their emotions by pulling one of the most annoying, cheapest and UNORIGINAL tricks in the bag... I mean, it's so typical it's become bad writing... and many readers just get frustrated whenever that plot twist is abused.

    히히 July 11, 2021 7:27 am
    Haha, well, it's just the way many people enjoy a story, I guess. They love hating certain characters and enjoy a story more when they find a character to hate. On the other hand, no matter what happens later o... Jayjay

    True, but for me, that plot twist isn't always so bad since we would see a person changing and realizing their mistakes. Like them having a chance to better themselves. Because what if this character was brought up in a toxic environment? What if this chracter encountered something traumatic in his childhood? These would all be factors on how the character would be in the presented book. And as the series progresses, they realize they aren't alone as they heal from the scars. Just like how some people in the real world changes for the better, the characters too have their own stories. Though I can admit, it's becoming overused.

    This is becoming long, but to summarize, I think it would be bad for readers to invalidate a characters' backstory just because of the mistakes they've done in the present. Because their (character) life experiences made them that way. This is gonna be a SPOILER for "My Stepdaughter is just so cute(?)",
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    but that was also the main reason why he was being distant from his second wife. Because his first wife (26) was a pedophile who had raped him (13) every chance (even when he had a fever) she gets just so she can give birth to a prince.

    TricksterGod July 11, 2021 9:13 am
    I can understand that, however, there have also been many cases where the OGFL/MC would turn out to be the bad person all along. I'm not necessarily saying Lara is bad, it's just we don't know what the author p... 히히

    I could understand that perspective. Personally, I just see it as following the flow of the story, so until we actually see anything, being responsive to what is shown now is fine. That’s why I don’t think readers disliking him means they won’t accept development later if it happens. I also disagree with a character’s background excusing all their actions. It makes it understandable, but doesn’t necessarily excuse it.


    Spoilers for “I’m a Stepmother, but my daughter is just too cute”
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    Regarding Sirvirian, I feel like his situation is a bit different lol. His actions as a father are certainly neglectful, but he is never malicious. So when his background was reveal, his actions were excusable (at least to me). Sibel, on the other hand, was kinda evil in the original novel and seems to be the same way now, so he’d need a MAJOR excuse to make me think his actions were somewhat justified.

    히히 July 11, 2021 12:31 pm
    I could understand that perspective. Personally, I just see it as following the flow of the story, so until we actually see anything, being responsive to what is shown now is fine. That’s why I don’t think ... TricksterGod

    "Actions are understandable, not inexcusable" — I agree on you on that one. Because regardless of their past, they still did wrong. However, what I'm kind of skeptical is how there are many possible foreshadows/hints that keeps showing but some people chooses to ignore them. But I do agree and am kind of enlightened over your statement of how readers are just showing what they feel at the moment. I guess I'm just a little bit frustrated cause the cycle just keeps going on and on, and people doesn't seem to learn from it.

    Regarding Sirvirian, I do agree his case was sort of special/different. I wanted to show some misunderstood characters that actually make sense and "I’m a Stepmother, but my daughter is just too cute” came in my mind first. Sorry about that.