I don't consider it rape, because he clearly enjoyed it and he had the strength to break free from the princes hold yet chose to give in to pleasure.
I get what you mean, but he still didn't want it at first. Yes, he did given into pleasure but that still doesn't hide the fact that it was rape, even if he did enjoy but I understand it's your opinion so I won't press it any further.
Achieving sexual pleasure does not negate the act of rape. Consent is key at all times. So if they said NO, then it means NO. Not "force me into submission and fuck me until I cum". You wouldn't like it if someone held you against your will and touched you until you came. No sane person would "enjoy" being violated by a stranger, even a handsome one at that.
Geez people you cant rape the willing!
How can you consider them willing when they've explicitly expressed their refusal? Honestly, "you can't teach the ignorant new things" should be your line.
I'm sorry, I said, I won't push it any further since it was your opinion but what you said was ignorant. Just because someone "enjoyed it" doesn't mean they fucking want to be rape, because rape by definition means: unlawful sexual activity or sexual intercourse carried out forcibly or under threat of injury against the will of a female, male or with a person who is beneath a certain age or incapable of valid consent—compare sexual assault, statutory rape. So for one, he can't want to be rape like when you mention in your statement that: you can't rape the "willing" but in the manga you can tell that it explicitly display that he does not want it, so that will takes away the meaning. Then again the manga romanticised rape so you obviously couldn't tell the difference between FUCKING RAPE and sex
If you people would reread the manga again you would clearly see that, in my opinion the uke was not raped. He consented to the sextual act, he just said no because his mind was conflicted at the time because he liked what was happening but his mind was saying that he just met this person and that he should not like it, but he does.
If it really was rape the uke would be more traumatised, which he is not and afterwards he does fall in love but still lusts after the seme. If you do your research on rape and the victims mentality you would realise what im trying to say here.
This manga has a light tone to it and the mangaka was not aiming for it to be rape but portray the uke as like a virgin newly awakened to his sexuality. I have read a lot of yaoi manga so I can tell when it is rape and when it it not.
But all this is probably just my opinion right? So I get that you don't agree but please don't disregard my views that disagree with you. We all have the right to our opinions and don't force me to try to see things your way. Because im just expressing my opinion I really don't mind if you agree with me or not.
I'm sorry about what I said, it was quite inappropriate and pretty harsh. I didn't mean to force my opinion down your throat, I was just very mad I guess and said things forgetting that this is your opinion. Sorry
It's alright, im not angry. I can see we clearly have different views on this.
For me rape would be like the Viewfinder series, and ROUGE (the uke's back story).
This manga to me was just like rough sex where the uke is too shy to really express themselves.
You would probably think these two are rape too : http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/minori_no_te/
and the second story here :
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/renai_rubi_no_tadashii_furikata/
But to me there are so many differences between rape, rough sex and the willingness (sorry I cant think of a better word) of the participants in a sextual act. Sometimes in manga the uke would say no but really means yes, e.g) Junjou Romantica (recent chapters). But when a seme or uke really don't want to have sex they make their views adamantly clear, e.g) Junjou (afterwards the uke says that what the seme did was rape and not like how they made love previously).
I'm not forcing you to see things my way, im just further illustrating my views.
Sorry for the long message, I guess we both got out of line somewhere.
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Yea, u know it's rape when u use the word attack throughout the story.
1) Swimming
2) Maybe it was lust rather than love?
3) Haven't you read yaoi?
4) His arm is super strong from masturbation
(I'm totally joking)
This yaoi has to some kind of parody because 1) How the fuck can you travel by elephant for TWO months across the sea.
2) People at least 98% of the time can't fall in love that easy, especially if there were raped. So bitch please.
3)I also like to mention when the main character (he so forgot able I can't even remember his name) got raped I couldn't take it seriously. Because the way the present it was as if it was a joke. I couldn't help put laugh even though he getting rape.
4) I also love the way the main character can pick up the prince with super human strength riding A FUCKING horse in desert but couldn't save himself from getting rape.
The only thing I like about this story that it was funny and the art was good.