The comments section looks like the mess made person. Tae’s fans need to know under ever...

What English translation to better understand exactly what? I need context. Mans raped Sooyoung and it seemed like Sooyoung forgot his memories, and Minhyuk taking advantage of it. But let’s wait for the translations I agree..regardless Minhyuk still raped.

It’s not just Taesung’s fans cause I’m not a fan of neither Taesung or Minhyuk, I stand on my own side.

Wtf who thinks it is beautiful? Rape is never beautiful and never saves anybody even if their oppa is handsome. Minhyuk is just another nightmare for him so I don't see what's beautiful about it.
Same as the person above, I'm not taesung's fan, I hate them both

First relax, breathe. Second thing. Can I know and understand everything? If I want to read. If I want context, am I justifying a rapist? As far as I know, I know Minkyuk didn’t want to do anything about it, he knew he would regret it... but he couldn’t help himself. The boxer who thinks it’s Tae provoked him by licking his fingers to get fucked. Remember that Tae whenever the boxer did not do what he ordered, HE FUCKED BADLY, PUNISHED HIM... the boxer wanted to be punished because he was full of wounds, that for him was Tae and not Minkyuk.... He cried because he wasn’t fucking him badly enough... It’s all terrible. Everything. But I can read it, I can know exactly what they say... I want to know. You do what you want

I see but I’ll just add that the excuse “couldn’t help himself” don’t work, still rape. If a murderer couldn’t help but kill out of wanting satisfaction, would you still blame the murderer or sympathize?

Different I know but not any better. We are speaking about Minhyuk currently and I agree that Taesung is bad, nobody here said otherwise.

And because Taesung did something horrible doesn’t make Minhyuk any better, he did the same thing in a different way (rape still).

Also what did you mean by “ Fans of Minkyuk love it because it is beautiful and saves the boxer.”
Context?

Both are bad, Sooyoung needs to get away from these crazy fuckers.

So. It’s obvious that English is not my first language. So the translator can sometimes suck. I want to read the chapter in English. I buy them legally. I’m not a thief. Last thing. After 52, I read that the author said, that she wanted to shockingly represent the pain and frustration of Minkyuk, to never be considered, no one ever said thank you. So I want to read it to understand it. You skip it. I’ll read it. The boxer has to run away from everyone. If he’s with Minkyuk he’s gonna end badly, if he’s with Tae he’s gonna end up with a broken leg and locked up in the house. Just

Hm? Who said you were a thief? And no it isn’t obvious that English isn’t your first language cause it is pretty good.

“ shockingly represent the pain and frustration of Minkyuk” SHOCKINGLY= rape. Yes indeed it shocked us but also frustrated us. Doesn’t excuse rape regardless but I can see what the author wanted to portray. Regardless, Minhyuk is bad without doubt.

I will read once translations are out. The translations may sometimes suck but the team work hard on translating it :).

black and white thinking

At this point your brain is monochromatic.

really? That's really interesting. You really get a sense of Min's frustration and compulsion with the sex. He is still sympathetic, I think, but one has to take in the nuance. Many people on this site are so hung up psychologically on rape, they can't read a story as the author presents it. I think this author is especially insightful and mature in their writing. I just don't see anyone perceiving it, reducing everything to black or white.

Okay so if a killer murders someone out of compulsiveness, I’m supposed to be sorry and sympathize?

Sex is different indeed and I can sort of agree with you it’s not too easy to handle but mans gotta go change that; go to therapy ffs.

Rape is rape, people’s moralities don’t just change cause someone states how people are so hung up psychologically on rape.

yes, in some ways I see that. Thing is, I don't care if min raped soo, or which one is the best partner for soo, or if soo should walk away or stay, of if min is good or bad.
I care if the rape scene is visually interesting, if the story has interesting pieces to consider or not, if the art is good, if the facial features and expressions are well done, and a lot of other things. and I just want to go where the author takes me instead of consulting my morals with each episode. I don't care about morals. for me that's rl. I'm leaving behind the incumbrance of morality and submitting to the author's.

I see. How do you separate your morality from reality? It’s so confusing, I still take my morality even if it’s fiction. Do you practice or something?

I have high empathy so I can’t just let go of my moralities in fiction and as you can probably tell, I’m stubborn as well. When I see something that is considered bad by morals, I feel strong negative emotions especially when it comes to rape. You and I are both very different judging by our nice discussion.

I don’t think this is romance so it shouldn’t be romanticized in the first place. And I still think Sooyoung should leave Taesung. He’s gonna be like Bum in Killing Stalking.

Thinking about it, you’re right in a way but my moralities is something I cannot control. I grew up with those moralities.

I still don’t like rape, I think you stated that you like seeing nonconsensual/rape before? Well I don’t at all.

And if something like this ever happens in reality, would it be different for you? Since you stated you leave your morality in reality, I’m assuming you have your moralities there but not here.

I love your comment. Almost perfect. We are readers at the end that necessarily we have to submit to the author’s story. I want to read the chapter in English. I want to understand what the author wanted to convey. The story is his. I want to see and read if it’s true, Minkyuk’s terrible frustration, he saves him protects and not even a thank you, not a word, others take credit. I want to read. But I don’t condone rape. But I want to understand. And I’m not going to be ashamed of that

I could weep lol. Someone can actually see what I'm saying. yes, I really want to read that chapter in English. The author was saying a lot in the way he drew min's face with each passing moment. That's how it looks to me. Min might turn out to be the most interesting character. He looked a lot depraved in the first part of the book. In his recent scene he looks sad and innocent one moment to lust-driven and unrequited in the next and on to downright devious

yes, I get it. In the end you command far more respect than Yaoiislife, who keeps bashing on me while you're trying to forget the past aand have a conversation. My morals run in the background for me. that's all. My anger doesn't rise when it comes to rape. It's a serious crime. I see other crimes the same way, but I can't afford too many emotional ups and downs in a day.
Honestly, I'm not opposed to fantasy forced encounters, but I won't say I have a thing for them. they can be romantic and sexy.
It would be as bad for me as any human being if it happened to me or mine in rl

Now I understand you a bit more on the morality. You’re very good at separating morality from fiction world and leaving it behind in reality. I personally hate rape no matter what, be it fiction or reality. I was already hating the way Taesung treated Sooyoung so adding Minhyuk, assault/rape made me even more upset. An already burning flame, added more wood to ignite the flame more.


I just need the English translations, as we all need, to better understand. And yes as you said, it would be bad for anyone if anything like this happened in reality.

I’m genuinely curious. How do you like forced encounters but not in reality? I have my pride and the thought of being forced makes me wanna fight the air.

I know we are different but just wanna know your side.

sorry I didn't answer sooner. I like your burning flame metaphor. and fight the air metaphor, too. Anyway, it's because Fictional forced sexual encounters are fantasy, highly idealized, romantically lavish stories that come from the imagination. they're completely removed from real life. They aren't violent. They come from the fee expression of the imagination of the storyteller. That's why I stand up against the tidal wave of people yelling so loud as to force authors to change their art. That's my concern. I don't want any author to be oppressed.