damn right. Look at popular stories it's full of sex and the ones that actually explore themes other than that are less rated. I don't read much "yaoi" now but I rmbr stories barely started but comments would be full topics about sex, who's this sex position who's that...
Even in shounen Ai section they say "turn into yaoi" and refer characters "seme/uke." I've seen mfs complain about shounen Ai because it doesn't have sex since they've read everything in yaoi, ridiculous. Uploaders do encourage that too and the commentary under some scenes and memes at the end are annoying.
i completely get what you mean but at the same time idk why people act like people just cant like sex? I mean personally i need plot if there's going to be sex because i want to get attached to the characters. However I don't get why it's an issue if someone just wants to read sex too? I also don't get how reading bl or gl is fetishizing if someone who's straight reads it? After all no one considers it fetishizing if it's the exact same story with a girl and boy?
Heres my take on this (correct me if im wrong)
I cant speak for all but here are my observations ( personally prefer story over smut but not opposed to it if done right)
Also everyone does this in different levels its inherently the same as shipping characters just in the extreme levels.
Well first of all people have their own tastes, you cant really judge them for that. Second they are expressing what they want to happen (not really uncommon in fan culture) and or are thirsty as fuck and depending on the genre of the story the more smuttier the more "degenracy/ cultured" individuals it attracts. Fans express their wants to the point of impossing it and usually the more agressive the act are usually done by younger , immature or new/inexperienced fans.Also people are just sensitive if it doesnt fit their ideals. (I view it as long as it doesnt hurt anyone go for it, AND you DO NOT APPLY IT TO REAL LIFE PEOPLE)keep reality and fantasy SEPARATE.
Regarding opinions of gay men : i aint gay or a man so cant speak for this BUT i am assuming you aint either you just "heard"
Peoples perspectives can differ on this matter some may be okay with it some may not [gay men pls verify ahahahaha]
Also Restricting your audience to a specific demographic is marketing suicide and discriminatory in itself. Also isnt yaoi mostly targeted to women anyways(?) (Pls verify). also what does your gender even have to do with your preference in stories anyways? Try applying it the other way around and ask yourself
All are just my opinions sadly i dont think there studies on this ahahaha
I mean everytime I come on this website I see everyone screaming it to be fetishizing if you read only bl or only gl? And that's what I'm saying though. I don't understand why it's questionable if someone reads bl or gl for sex? I mean porn exists and people have desires? What's wrong about it? Of course once you start viewing real humans like that and your inability to separate fiction and reality is when it becomes an issue. But I don't believe this to be a strictly same 'gender' issue. boyxgirl porn has similar issues where men could start viewing girls as sex objects? ah idk either way no one would ever bat an eye if someone strictly read gl and they're a straight girl but it's an issue if they read only bl? idgi i could be straight and want to read both gl and bl even though i could be just attacted to one in the real world. Lesbians read bls too. To me, i don't think sexual orientation really matters when you're reading fiction but i feel like im going a lil off topic sorry ah
gender/sexuality doesn't matter. If bl didn't have a "yaoi" where it involves sex, 75% of readers wouldn't even care about bl genre. Also, where did it come from that "no one would ever bat an eye if someone strictly read gl and they're a straight girl but it's an issue if they read only bl?" ?? The gender isn't even the issue here but If they're going overboard pretty sure they get called out the same way, there just wouldn't be much of it to see or hear about because they're not so loud like fujodanshis shenanigans like downright fetishizing and all.
no ur fine, but again(lol) im only talking about ppl who read bl/gl to see two women or two men have sex. if a person isnt there for the sex i understand that. but some ppl ONLY want sex. its not about the story to them, its about seeing two ppl of the same gender have sex, and i mainly only see straight ppl when i see this issue. idk.
1.- i completely agree but i find it kinda weird how some ppl arent open to new things when it comes to reading, only bl/gl??
2.-also yes, im not gay or a man. but i have had gay friends tell me they are extremely uncomfortable when a non gay man talks about how much they love bl. and yeah ik some dont care, lol.
3.-i didnt get what u meant with the whole suicide thing. but bl is targeted toward women cause its mainly women who make bl, which idk i dont get?? gender=does not equal what kinds of stories u should preference, i was talking about how some only read it to see two ppl of the same gender have sex, lol
again, i feel some ppl only come on here to see two guys have sex, which i personally think is weird since most of u arent even men/gay men?? u dont even pay attention to the story, its just u asking for sex. and from what i’ve heard gay men/mlm dont like that. and the female/non-male uploaders rlly like to encourage things like that. (if u want to try and justify what im saying, im all ears!!:))