Lol so agree! And i'm kinda sorry for you since you go all out just to explain to someone so stubborn and in denial. The conversations below gave me headaches but it made me laughed at the same time. Oh well, like Miramira said, the joke is certainly a bad taste and I did dislike that part which only lasted for seconds since Sudou is able to be in control of himself to stop his own urge. That also means he's being nice enough to think about the orther party. That's my take on THE particular scene. Don't know why people make a big deal about it #-.-)
p/s - for me, him taking things into consideration as well as trying to be a part of his partner's family is what makes me like them both together..makes me like the story, hence the Manga itself.
Some people like sick jokes and some don't, but when they're made in real life I get why someone can be disgusted, but... with fiction? It's just hilarious :) The other conversation was funny because the that kid can't even keep defending his/her own "arguments", and that in itself proves that this manga has not a rape scene.
What angers me most is how people can't just forget the manga's they don't like and let others enjoy them. We all read some works that we don't like while others find them the perfect story... I don't go and start sprouting shit about them in comments hahaha
Well, it was amusing talking to that kid hehehe I'm awed by his lack of argumentative skills and it made all the conversation hilarious :D:D:D
I'm just awed by what I read... We all are free to like or hate anything we read and to difer our opinions, but... saying this manga is rape-based is stupid. I alredy said this in a reply, but I will post it again: the fact that Sudou sais "Can I rape you?" doesn't mean there is actually a rape there, FGS. He makes a move on Kishi, he accepts it and ends up being masturbated. There's no more in that. If this is rape then 99% of yaois are too ¬¬
There is a huge amount of yaois which are actually rape-based and there are readers who enjoy them and readers who don't. But this is not one of them.
I repeat, the fact that Sudou said that line made a lot of people jump, and even if it's a sick joke IT IS A JOKE. He didn't say it seriously, and I can't believe so many people are so simple minded to not understand something like that.