The notice...

gore.png June 12, 2021 6:23 pm

I get that the original uploader is upset about someone uploading over them but exposing them like that was unnecessary IMO.

Responses
    Jayjay June 12, 2021 6:27 pm

    It's not for that reason, the real reason is the new uploader's apparent lack of consideration for Mojito, this webtoon's original author, by disrrupting the prior updating schedule that was made in consideration of the author. If that's the case, then I think that notice is deserved.

    Jayjay June 12, 2021 6:30 pm
    It's not for that reason, the real reason is the new uploader's apparent lack of consideration for Mojito, this webtoon's original author, by disrrupting the prior updating schedule that was made in considerati... Jayjay

    I mean, I think the new one insists on uploading without respecting that considerate schedule.

    Syxx June 12, 2021 6:34 pm
    I mean, I think the new one insists on uploading without respecting that considerate schedule. Jayjay

    As always you get everything right!

    gore.png June 12, 2021 7:08 pm
    It's not for that reason, the real reason is the new uploader's apparent lack of consideration for Mojito, this webtoon's original author, by disrrupting the prior updating schedule that was made in considerati... Jayjay

    It's not like exposing them like that would do anything good, though. I don't see what the original uploader was aiming to achieve with that.
    If the OG uploader was considerate of Mojito then uploading chapters of their work for people to pirate isn't the best option in my eyes. The 1-week wait isn't that big of a deal anyway, it's exactly like if they were reading from the official source, except just a week behind the non-piraters. I doubt that that 1-week wait has ever encouraged anyone to purchase the chapters legally anyway.

    nat June 12, 2021 7:27 pm
    It's not like exposing them like that would do anything good, though. I don't see what the original uploader was aiming to achieve with that. If the OG uploader was considerate of Mojito then uploading chapters... gore.png

    It has encouraged people. And that person shouldn’t have uploaded over the original uploader anyway. They knew the schedule but still did it so if only they done that they wouldn’t have been called out. It’s common sense.

    NZIGHT June 12, 2021 7:33 pm
    It's not like exposing them like that would do anything good, though. I don't see what the original uploader was aiming to achieve with that. If the OG uploader was considerate of Mojito then uploading chapters... gore.png

    I don't know that u lack some thing or what ! But original uploader do consider about this series and wanted to upload after 1 week is her decision , and uploading here especially on pirated site ya said some people who don't have acess to official site due to blockage of those sites in their country they will be able to read it here at least , and about people buying it officially I m that person who started buyin it work since last year out of curiosity to know things one things ahead .!.

    Jayjay June 12, 2021 7:36 pm
    It's not like exposing them like that would do anything good, though. I don't see what the original uploader was aiming to achieve with that. If the OG uploader was considerate of Mojito then uploading chapters... gore.png

    Well, I'm no expert on this, but are you really sure about that? If you're not, then better not say that because it's rude to the uploaders who decide to do this out of consideration for the original authors. I say this because it's NOT the first time I've seen an uploader do this, and I've even seen some claiming they such made arrangements like that extraofficially with the legal sites (though I don't know if it was ever true), so I figured that if some uploaders do this it's because it does work out well to some degree, I can see no other reason for them doing it otherwise since it doesn't benefit them (the uploaders) in any way.

    gore.png June 12, 2021 7:40 pm
    It has encouraged people. And that person shouldn’t have uploaded over the original uploader anyway. They knew the schedule but still did it so if only they done that they wouldn’t have been called out. It�... nat

    If it has then it would be hard t tell. The amount is probably minuscule compared to the number of people who haven't and continue to pirate.
    Not much of a reason as to why that person shouldn't've uploaded over the OG uploader, besides the guilt of making the OG uploader disappointed.
    Not sure how the stray uploader being called out is common sense. It's not like calling them out does much. To me, common sense would be to go to the stray uploader and try to convince them to not do that again. They don't learn anything by being exposed. But that's just my thought process.

    Syxx June 12, 2021 7:42 pm
    If it has then it would be hard t tell. The amount is probably minuscule compared to the number of people who haven't and continue to pirate.Not much of a reason as to why that person shouldn't've uploaded over... gore.png

    Already did that and nothing came out of it. That’s why I dropped the series.

    gore.png June 12, 2021 7:43 pm
    I don't know that u lack some thing or what ! But original uploader do consider about this series and wanted to upload after 1 week is her decision , and uploading here especially on pirated site ya said some p... NZIGHT

    Good for you.

    gore.png June 12, 2021 7:44 pm
    Already did that and nothing came out of it. That’s why I dropped the series. Syxx

    That's a bummer. Thanks for providing the chapters up until now, you've introduced me to an interesting series ^^.

    gore.png June 12, 2021 7:51 pm
    Well, I'm no expert on this, but are you really sure about that? If you're not, then better not say that because it's rude to the uploaders who decide to do this out of consideration for the original authors. I... Jayjay

    About what are you asking me if I'm sure of? I made multiple points in the reply you've replied to.
    I'm sure uploaders are at least somewhat considerate of the creators. But clearly not truly considerate seeing how they're performing as an outlet for piraters who only hurt the creators.
    An uploading method I've experimented with in my head is just making the image quality very low but high enough to allow the text to be readable. This will at least give a solid incentive for people to go and purchase the chapters officially (especially if the series has good art). This isn't quite fair to people who can't access official chapters for one reason or the other, though.

    Jayjay June 12, 2021 8:02 pm
    About what are you asking me if I'm sure of? I made multiple points in the reply you've replied to.I'm sure uploaders are at least somewhat considerate of the creators. But clearly not truly considerate seeing ... gore.png

    About whether or not a week of delay encourages people to consider buying it legally (or watching ads to gain points to exchange for chapters in legal sites). I don't own, publish nor work in anything related in any of those legal sites so I'm not in on the inside of it and thus I wouldn't know for sure whether the release of the pirates version getting delayed for a a few days benefits them in any way, or not. So I'm asking whether you say that because you do have inside info, or just because you assume.

    gore.png June 12, 2021 8:18 pm
    About whether or not a week of delay encourages people to consider buying it legally (or watching ads to gain points to exchange for chapters in legal sites). I don't own, publish nor work in anything related i... Jayjay

    It's an educated guess. The people who pirate just to see if they like a series or not are harder to find, I've gathered that much from mingling with other manhwa/manhua/manga readers.
    Most of the people I've spoken to pirate because they're unable to pay (from being a minor or broke), unable to purchase official chapters due to where they live, official chapters not being available in their language, officially translated chapters having low-quality translations, or because they pirate for the sake of pirating.
    Releases of pirated material being delayed won't make any of these people pay for official chapters, since it's not like they're able to anyway. It's just like reading from the official source, just a bit later than others.
    I've considered my experiences to form my assumption.

    Syxx June 12, 2021 8:53 pm
    It's an educated guess. The people who pirate just to see if they like a series or not are harder to find, I've gathered that much from mingling with other manhwa/manhua/manga readers.Most of the people I've sp... gore.png

    It would be nice to undergo a survey about this bc it’s a interesting topic imo. I still think that succeeding in pushing a person to unlock 1 chapter just by watching 30 ads is easier than to read the whole comic. Anyway, this is just my opinion.

    gore.png June 12, 2021 9:05 pm
    It would be nice to undergo a survey about this bc it’s a interesting topic imo. I still think that succeeding in pushing a person to unlock 1 chapter just by watching 30 ads is easier than to read the whole... Syxx

    Agreed. Sadly, I don't think a survey would be possible thanks to the legally devious nature of the subject. Perhaps it's possible on this website.