I'm curious. I get why this has such a low rating but why does other yaois with rape like ...

Blakay June 5, 2021 6:22 am

I'm curious. I get why this has such a low rating but why does other yaois with rape like Finder with a ton of rape have such a high rating? Shouldn't y'all also give Finder low ratings as well?

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    degamenu June 5, 2021 6:31 am

    I didn't give it a 5 cause I felt the ending couldve been better, not sure about the rest tho (๑•ㅂ•)و✧

    Lynda79 June 5, 2021 7:35 am

    Finder, while the rape is unforgivable, has a good story. This...not so much. It would get good then backpedal. Just when you felt bad for Kang, the ending stopped any redemption arc from happening. Just nothing. Finder at least gives a redemption bit, some romance, something more than this...

    Myllie1 June 5, 2021 1:04 pm

    You either treat rape as a problem through and through, working with what you put on the story, or you treat it as nothing.
    You got three choices of routes if you wanna do rape and keep the characters together.

    Now, what are these "routes"? First, the junjou:
    You are going to stablish that rape is not treated as a serious thing in the setting of your story. The word rape or abuse might not even be used. On this universe, it is seem as bad, but it doesn't carry the same weight as the real world. With that stablished it becomes easier to understand why the reader can overlook what happened, neither of the characters treat it as a massive, life-changing occurring. Above anything else, it must start from a place of desire and/or love. It can never be portrayed as done just for the humiliation and torture aspect of the rape, or else you will have to recognize, within your world building, that in this universe, rape is just as bad as in the real world.

    Second: the nii-chan route.
    In this one you will stablish that rape is bad.
    It may come from a place of hate or love or whatever, why the rapist did it doesn't matter, it is still awful and irredmable and it fucks up the victim. Now, you can make the rapist a manipulator or the victim to have a mind break, whatever you chose, it must feel wrong, you need to show that this doesn't come from a safe, health place, these bitches are fucked up now, both sides. It's why killing stalking works. Why cage mantis works. It's awful and it's treated as awful, it doesn't shy away. There's no redemption, just a tortured mind that can't think better for himself.

    The third and last route is the hardest: The Shounen no Kyoukai route.
    Specifically, the second story.
    Some Omegaverse go on the 2nd but most Omegaverses go with the 1st route, rape is a part of society and excused by the hormones, it's a bad happening, you should try to avoid it, but it doesn't necessarily makes the rapist bad, it's stablished to be instinctual. But shounen no kyoukai is different.
    The MC raped someone and is not the greatest towards his current partner, but you slowly see the change, the guilt, there's a redemption that is so very well done.
    Thats the thing. The three rules of the third route:
    - rape is awful. No way around it
    - victim is suffering. Don't sugar coat it.
    - rapist have to suffer and show guilt and then begin to redeem himself. You can not "justify" it. There's nothing that excuses rape, he needs to atone and it can't be rushed. If the reader isn't convinced, you failed.

    This one story tried to do all three, show rape as horrible, but done for horrible reasons; make a redemption for the rapist, but it is actually just justifying with "he had a bad past"; and act as if is not that bad and the MC forgives the dude as if he wasn't raped three times "oh it's OK, you raped me but it felt good so I'm in love wit u, no actual trauma and this comes from a healthy mind, and imma save your life" without any actual redemption.

    It's basically a rape apologist story. Rape stories that use the same standards as real life for rape and ends with a healthy relationship with no punishment for the rapist are just saying "yep. Rape is okay, 100% OK"

    juu ♡ June 5, 2021 3:03 pm
    You either treat rape as a problem through and through, working with what you put on the story, or you treat it as nothing.You got three choices of routes if you wanna do rape and keep the characters together.N... Myllie1

    I wish I could like your comment. I've always thought this but I never really knew how to put it into words so thank you!!! It feel good to know I wasn't the only one thinking like this :)

    Lynda79 June 5, 2021 7:07 pm
    You either treat rape as a problem through and through, working with what you put on the story, or you treat it as nothing.You got three choices of routes if you wanna do rape and keep the characters together.N... Myllie1

    Well said.