So let's say hiiragi was a girl that's been friends with someone for so long and she went to that friend and confessed and kissed that friends and hinted she'll give all of herself to that friend but chickened out when things were about to go down , can we still say she was sexually assault without her saying the words "i was sexually assault" No we can't ..like we can't also just judge a few scenes from a manga and make hiiragi a victim and point the finger at chizu without knowing what was going on in his head in that moment was he in chock , did he want to leave and was paralysed by fear and panicked or was he just scared from something he never experienced before and was afraid that's all who can say for sure so let's think it through before making the author another rape advocate author
@Kamisito Wtf are you talking about?? That's literally how consent works. It doesn't matter how far you get, when someone gets scared and wants to opt out, especially when they're a virgin, then you do it. Why the f*ck would you even want to have sex when your significant other when they're showing nothing but fear?? He literally f*cked him without lube. Nothing about that scene was sensual. It was filled with aggression and distress. Let's not forget that they HAVEN'T EVEN DATED YET. Like with Haruki and Aki their first sexual contact together is filled with dubious consent.
Literally the only snips of Hiiragi we get are him looking terrified and saying he's scared. Shizu going forward anyway just shows that he was totally fine with disregarding Hiiragi's comfort. That shit isn't normal in ANY relationship, and there will never be a situation where it's considered a consensual sex scene, outside of Yaoi/Hentai-land fantasies.
Even if it comes back to Hiiragi saying he was ok with the situation, it will just further feed into the narrative that the romanticization of toxic and abusive relationships are fine as long as it's between guys.
Sh*t like this is so common in these kink-filled mangas that it has oblivious fujoshis like you making excuses for it and normalizing it. I'm not here to kink-shame. If you're down with dub-con just say that. But if you REALLY think a situation like that is any way consensual then you're a loss cause.
You're so triggered about this with no good reason , and you seem to miss the point of what i said which is based on you giving the example of "what if" he was a girl , so objectively speaking if it was a real life situation you wouldn't have a say in it without a victim's word about it cause you'll be an outsider off the situation which makes whatever you say invalid , we both out here reading bl like i know and you know damn well that's how it is so ..cut the crap with the act of being woke reading yaoi mangas
I don't even have the patience to dissect your nonsense. But, point blank, if you have a problem with ME being disappointed about this manga, that I actually enjoy, defaulting to using largely unnecessary cliche BL tropes like dub-con/non-con, then that's between you and your therapist and not my issue.
Lmao you're so funny , you're making up scenarios about me in your head now (⌒▽⌒) this is getting ridiculous
@Belle agreed. it was unnecessary and definitely not what I expected..or wanted from that chapter. I was so excited to even just get a kiss ...only for sh*t to hit the fan like that. I can understand not everything needs to be extremely wholesome but there's more ways to create tension or express drama than just throwing in some edgy and uncomfortable sex scenes. did we need a rehashing of what just went down with haru and aki?? No, we didn't. But i'm not too surprised bc even in a few of her djs she has the seme going through some type of emotional issue and then taking it out on the uke in a sexual way. so apparently this is her go to plot device. if she does the same with mafuyu and uenoyama i'll be pissed.
everything about that chapter feels kinda unnecessary :/ yeah we got some cute scenes from when they were in kindergarten(?) but other than that there was just an uncomfortable atmosphere in every scene. im also afraid the author is gonna take the same route with ritsuka and mafuyu and if she does then im bidding this manga goodbye.
it's a shame 'cause the buildup to that chapter was really good but now i cannot even try to bring myself to care about the childhood friends (including yuki) like im only reading this for a (hopefully) ritsuka centered arc.
can i know what chapter you guys are talking about? cuz i think i mayyy have missed something.
41 ^^
I- but for me theres no chapter 41
You can find the translations here ! https://twitter.com/tatasenkomana/status/1400807569795465219?s=21
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This manga is great don't get me wrong...but after seeing the NEXT chapter between Hiiragi and Shizu I'm so uncomfortable. [Obviously spoilers is you haven't seen that chapter]
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I don't see why sexual assault has to be such a common theme in BL. Passion/Desire shouldn't equate to ignoring consent. I was already on edge when it happened with Haruki and Akihiko. But the fact that that gross trope was then done again with Hiiragi and Shizu just leaves such a horrible taste in my mouth. To me it taints the bond that they've developed over the years and normalizes abusive and toxic relationships between guys. If Hiiragi was a girl NO ONE would think that scene was ok or that those two should still be together.
I was ready to see the build up to them both getting over their past traumas, accepting their feelings for one another, and then slowly getting comfortable with transitioning from friendship to something more. Instead we just go straight into cringeworthy sex scene filled with dubious consent. And of course I'm sure, like with Akihiko, we're going to get some redemption for Shizu and they'll just slap a bandaid on it and pretend that scene never even happen.
Those dumb and toxic tropes are fine for throw away yaoi that's only there to fulfill a kink. But I felt like this story was so much more than that. It really gets you invested in the characters and their lives. And the anime just brings the characters even more to life. I honestly so disappointed with the direction it's taking, and I'm wondering if the mangaka is going to do the same with Mafuyu and Ue...