so, y'all r mad that he took advantage or raped jooin when he was drunk. I understand that...

alexa-san May 19, 2021 2:13 pm

so, y'all r mad that he took advantage or raped jooin when he was drunk. I understand that. but he didn't bring jooin to the hotel with that motive in mind he just didn't know where he lived. and in the end, didn't jooin like that smeggs? he was the one who initiated the smeggs not yahwi. (its not that i love yahwi im just genuinely confused on why you guys act like its such a big deal to jooin)

Responses
    ivana_ May 19, 2021 2:16 pm

    U dumbass- it doesn't matter which MoTiVE he had. He still raped him and nothing excuses that wtf

    CoffeeJelly May 19, 2021 2:18 pm

    Jooin was DRUNK, who gives a shit about Yawhi's motive he did what he did tf are you talking about? :/

    Joohwi May 19, 2021 2:21 pm
    U dumbass- it doesn't matter which MoTiVE he had. He still raped him and nothing excuses that wtf ivana_

    He isn't wrong- i don't understand why you had to call him a dumbass.

    CoffeeJelly May 19, 2021 2:27 pm
    He isn't wrong- i don't understand why you had to call him a dumbass. Joohwi

    No, they're very wrong a lot of people in this fandom don't seem to understand consent. What Yawhi did at the hotel was sexual assault point blank period, there is no excuse for that even if Jooin "enjoyed it" he was drunk and couldn't give consent. :/

    alexa-san May 19, 2021 2:28 pm

    y'all r too emotional. was calling me a dumbass really necessary? anyway.. im just genuinely confused because when jooin found out that they had sex that night, he was happy. Im not saying that what yahwi did was correct. but its not like jooin didnt want it so im confused as to why they call it rape.

    alexa-san May 19, 2021 2:34 pm
    No, they're very wrong a lot of people in this fandom don't seem to understand consent. What Yawhi did at the hotel was sexual assault point blank period, there is no excuse for that even if Jooin "enjoyed it" ... CoffeeJelly

    i didn't say that it was an excuse. i keep on repeating myself *sighs*. i NEVER SAID THAT WHAT YAHWI DID WAS CORRECT OR ALRIGHT IN ANY WAY. "when jooin found out, he was happy about the idea." (YES I DID SAY THAT BUT I DIDN'T SAY THAT IT WAS STILL ALRIGHT), Im just saying that I DONT UNDERSTAND as to why many people act like jooin was offended so much

    CoffeeJelly May 19, 2021 2:36 pm
    y'all r too emotional. was calling me a dumbass really necessary? anyway.. im just genuinely confused because when jooin found out that they had sex that night, he was happy. Im not saying that what yahwi did w... alexa-san

    First Jooin wasn't happy he was pissed because Yahwi had sex with him and told him nothing. Second just because Jooin "enjoyed it" doesn't mean it was ok. We call it rape because it was? Jooin gave no consent because he was drunk and Yahwi continued anyway. No one is being emotional, the shit you said was really fucked up and you obviously need to learn more about consent and rape because this comment was not it.

    ejiroustar May 19, 2021 2:39 pm

    He was still drunk. It doesn’t matter who initiated anything. Yahwi should’ve known better. That’s like dudes picking up drunk girls from a party and taking them home. Nobody cares about what his motives where. He coulda shunned Jooin and refused his sexual acts but no, he chose to get all up in his ass. Jooin is stupid as fuck. That’s why he didn’t mind it. Plus he’s also that push over “uke” in these stories. There isn’t much u can expect from him. Alsooo, it’s sex. People get turned on, doesn’t matter if it’s intentional or unintentional, people can’t help it so obviously they’ll enjoy it.

    ivana_ May 19, 2021 2:51 pm
    y'all r too emotional. was calling me a dumbass really necessary? anyway.. im just genuinely confused because when jooin found out that they had sex that night, he was happy. Im not saying that what yahwi did w... alexa-san

    Ok sorry that I insulted u. But my point still stands:
    Yes u didn't say Yahwi was in the right but u excused it for Jooin wasn't angry and enjoyed it like-
    It just shows again that rape in yaoi is romanticized and fans just dismiss it. So yes, Yahwi is still a jerk and we have every right to hate him

    alexa-san May 19, 2021 2:57 pm
    Ok sorry that I insulted u. But my point still stands:Yes u didn't say Yahwi was in the right but u excused it for Jooin wasn't angry and enjoyed it like- It just shows again that rape in yaoi is romanticized a... ivana_

    i apologize if it looked like i was giving excuses for what happened that night. that was not my intention. i got taken aback because ive seen harsh comments against yahwi again and again because of that. I didn't say that it wasnt rape. I just thought that the comments are talking as if Jooin was traumatized and deeply offended.

    alexa-san May 19, 2021 3:01 pm
    He was still drunk. It doesn’t matter who initiated anything. Yahwi should’ve known better. That’s like dudes picking up drunk girls from a party and taking them home. Nobody cares about what his motives ... ejiroustar

    i agree with your comment. its true that it doesn't matter who initiated the sex. I just wanted to mention it bc ive seen a lot of comments talking as if Jooin was traumatized because of that night. what happened that night wasn't alright in any way even if jooin didnt mind it. I just think some comments are turning the story to their own perspective without considering other details.

    alexa-san May 19, 2021 3:04 pm
    First Jooin wasn't happy he was pissed because Yahwi had sex with him and told him nothing. Second just because Jooin "enjoyed it" doesn't mean it was ok. We call it rape because it was? Jooin gave no consent b... CoffeeJelly

    yes you're right. like i said, even if jooin enjoyed it later on, it still wasnt alright. im sorry if it looked like i was giving excuses for Yahwi's actions. that wasnt my intention. I just didn't understand the other people in the comments because they were exaggerating the scene as if jooin was traumatized or deeply offended. Yes, he was pissed that yahwi didn't tell him anything but he also liked the fact that he had sex with his crush. (still not saying that it was alright.)

    alexa-san May 19, 2021 3:06 pm
    First Jooin wasn't happy he was pissed because Yahwi had sex with him and told him nothing. Second just because Jooin "enjoyed it" doesn't mean it was ok. We call it rape because it was? Jooin gave no consent b... CoffeeJelly

    and i also apologize if it looked like i was saying it wasn't rape. i didn't say it wasn't. im not intelligent/smart in that topic and so i was confused as to why people called it rape.

    CoffeeJelly May 19, 2021 3:07 pm
    yes you're right. like i said, even if jooin enjoyed it later on, it still wasnt alright. im sorry if it looked like i was giving excuses for Yahwi's actions. that wasnt my intention. I just didn't understand t... alexa-san

    Oooh ok, I totally understand that and it's fine thank you for explaining. :)

    ivana_ May 19, 2021 6:40 pm
    i apologize if it looked like i was giving excuses for what happened that night. that was not my intention. i got taken aback because ive seen harsh comments against yahwi again and again because of that. I did... alexa-san

    It's fine haha. I might have been a little bit harsh I just really thought you were saying the rape part should be dismissed and we are overreacting. It was a slight misunderstanding on my part sorry