Fl's a bitch

toto May 19, 2021 3:11 pm

Sorry guys(I'm not actually sorry but) but the fl is honestly the worst person here imo. If she already knows the storyline instead of getting with an engaged man... she could've reached out to our lovely red head villainess. Cuz she's butting in their relationship when (@the people who are in this debate would u mind if I made this into some discussion post/ q&a cuz it's getting hard to keep track of who's saying who)

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    toto May 19, 2021 3:00 pm
    But somehow Yerenica is still the bad guy Bureau of investigaytion

    Yes and no I just find her oblivious and annoying due to the fact that she chose the path with the most obstacles not because she wanted to be empress but because he's hot. Honestly no matter how hot a person is your life should still be put at the top bar on ur list of things you want to protect and then it's how she acts so suprise when she gets attacked by the vilainess when she knows that it's going to happen cuz she chose to go after the emperor. And if we bring morals into the stage it's honestly weird 5o me how she choses to be some sort of super mistress who's trying to kick out the main girl knowing that the main girl could kill her in her sleep. I just need her to actually think things through for once cuz girlie's putting her life on the line with that option and she's not setting anything up to defend herself from the vilainess

    toto May 19, 2021 3:03 pm
    Oh wait.. Isn't the engaged man gonna die? Wow, u sound so smart.. Who hurt u babes? Bureau of investigaytion

    Add to the debate or don't comment pls cuz it's wasting energy btw it's smarter to go after the murder rather than the victim when nothings going to happen to him yet

    toto May 19, 2021 3:04 pm
    she was being logical, why the hell would someone CHOOSE to keep a child that you know will kill you??? Like???In this case she’s not the one with a child but she knows the story and she knows that the empero... Tallglassofwater

    If we're talking logic it's not her place to make that decision and me an another person touched this subject on like the 3/4 page thing

    toto May 19, 2021 3:06 pm
    No because the first contact we see of the FL with the villainess is when the ML bring the FL to his state and the Villainess is using black magic to try to get rid of the FL right there Val

    That is after she comes to the palace because of rumors that the fl and the emperor were flirting and stuff so yeah that's going to happen. I'm talking abt the fl reaching out once she assessed the situation because in that page she had already chose to go after the emperor

    toto May 19, 2021 3:08 pm
    They are NOT engaged and they NEVER were. That’s not cheating, the only reason the villainess approached the FL was to gain power and at the end kill him, if this was a story about the villainess and the FL t... Val

    Please read the thread I have already said that I'm not exusing the vilainess at all what I'm saying is that the fl had more options but she chose to go after the ml because her was handsome and she thought what a shame. She doesn't and wouldn't have to put her life on the line if she chose to approach this a different way.

    toto May 19, 2021 3:09 pm
    :( Nyanbox

    Hello(〜 ̄△ ̄)〜

    Massive Bitch May 19, 2021 3:30 pm
    I understand why her family died and I agree that it was necessary. As for the og novel I thought her main goal was killing the emperor and creating some sort of "peaceful " world for black magicians was more o... toto

    Yeah it was one of her main goal. To eliminate all the divine users as an act of revenge for her parents, reach the world of the gods using her son, kill the Emperor and create a world for black magicians in order for them to do what ever they want. The villainess doesn't want peaceful, she wants power for her desciples because she thinks she had the right regardless how many live will loss. If she wants peace, she should have not use and black magic towards her desciples. As a wizard, she had the obligation to be in harmony with divine users to create "peace" if that what she wants. The wizards and divine users are already at peace hence the magic tower supported by the Imperial family. Soleia instead brainwash the students there because she doesn't want harmony for her wizards, she wants more power for wizards. Those are her main goal.

    Yes, indeed that she was an interesting character. But you have to consider the world building and the character structure that was made by the author. We already see her insights and views on things. Her intentions, values and morals are pretty clear. The author knows what she is doing and she can't just change the villainess perspective 180 degrees in order for us to be satisfied. The only way for the author to change her ways, is karma will bite her in the ass and take accountability to her actions. We can't just say, "because the author gave them no choice but to be this way". The author already had done enough for her character because there are other people on real life just like Soleia who had a sad past and chose violence instead of breaking the cycle. And I like the fact the author didn't romanticize her or use her trauma to put her on pedestal. This is why I like the villainess character. She is a Villainess not because she was misunderstood for the sake of the plot or because the readers like her and demand a redemption arc which is a huge pet peeves of mine. She became a villainess because of her choices and had made conscious decisions/actions and this is make the villainess competent in this story. Not a pity-party.

    (I don't mind to put this on discussion)

    Massive Bitch May 19, 2021 3:57 pm
    Oh yeah that's cool I get that lol part but at the same time I find her way of moving without properly thinking things through a bit annoying. And about her neice I don't know if her kingdom is conquered in the... toto

    The FL has no other choice either way except intervention. You have to put your shoes in her situation. Her original role was so insignificant that she practically fighting with fate. A fate that even the gods can't interfere but she chose to interfere because she feels guilty if she just standby without preventing the death of the characters caused by the villainess and the future villain. She can't properly scheme her way through because her movements are limited. Her body easily gets easily fatigue just by walking around the land of Belgoth/Bellecourt. The best thing for her to do is to be practical because no one knows when will she suddenly die because every step she takes without divinity protecting her is a landmine. And she really had that not much advantage if she put herself out there to the villainess. Like I said, if we analyze the villainess and her behaviour and views, she is no softie. She won't change just like that but the first things she would do is to make an even more dangerous plan.

    The FL had no any other cure other than divinity which is only temporary. Her only hope is Raulus (god's) blessing in which she has to wait to four more years because of taboos.

    In the OG novel, the future villain did conquer the OG FL's kingdom. That's how far his obsession goes.



    That's fine if you don't like his existence turned out but it was part of the world building that Yerenica was trying to prevent. The FL Yerenica is already walking on eggshells from the start and she has to do what she had to do and logically she has no time to agonize over a person who does not exist when there are more existing characters that are in danger of death that is staring right at her in the face.

    dongguk May 20, 2021 11:46 am
    If this was her story you would all hate the fl but because it's some fluffy story romanticizing cheating you guys are all for it. Like okay he doesn't love her but that doesn't mean he should neak around with ... toto

    nah honestly if i read the story frok the villainess side, i wouldn't be mad at the FL. the FL isn't some dumb girl that just wants to take the ML, and she's not acting all innocent and cutesy either, she has a personality. The villainess is a legitimate villainess, and she's doesn't love the ML either??? like dude what's your point? no one is saying that it was okay to hunt down the villainess' family bc of dark magic, I'm pretty sure everyone think that's fucked up and I'm pretty sure the FL wouldn't have supported it either, the villainess is literally plotting to kill erudian and the FL is just there to stop it... I feel like u forgot the main plot of the story? if this story was told from the villainess' side there wouldn't be any romance.

    Bureau of investigaytion May 20, 2021 1:54 pm
    About the ml of the original novel It just rubs me te wrong way cuz he isn't even given a chance at life just cause the author wrote him as an asshole it's like some sort of predestime prophesy for him that he ... toto

    Ok so how is the fl a bitch if you think that what the Villainess is doing is wrong? The fl is saving not only the villain's dad but the villain himself, in no way is she a bitch when she's trying to prevent the death of characters she cares for.

    dongguk May 20, 2021 2:46 pm
    So just randomly going after an engaged man is normal? toto

    its not normal, but its not random either. and there isnt even love in their engagement... like u said before its political