Fl's a bitch

That honestly imo isn't being logical, if we take into account that the fl knows the storyline but not the reason for the emperor being killed, and the magic allegry then it would've been more helpful to her cause to gain insight on soliea because now she knows that they aren't just characters. If there is no good output then I would understand her going after the ml instead but she has no excuse in the situation. Her was just the more handsome choice to make.

Ifk abt the good man part because after she learned that they weren't just characters then she also knows only what the author told her not what was real just the cover story type stuff but not the motivating factor leading to it

I'm so tired of this misunderstanding. You clearly have not read the story well. The Villainess was not engage to the Emperor. Everyone only expect it because she is the best candidate politically. She in only a candidate Empress which means, any woman can still take the position besides her but she sabotage them instead. She only self-proclaiming herself as one. It was confirmed by Erudian that he was not engage to her but he will consider the possibility if he had no choice. It was even confirmation by Diego that their are not engage. I suggest you should read the chapters again if you want to

lol maybe she should have been Naruto “therapy no jutsu” hahahaha ╮(￣▽￣)╭

Again, the Emperor and the villainess are not engage politically. You even forget that at the first meeting between the FL and the Villainess. The FL considered to befriend her instead of marrying the Emperor but the Villainess attempted to murder her at first sight without reason. Now, as a rational person with common sense, why on earth you would not stay far way from person who attempted to send her soul to hell at first meeting?

And give me an very good explanation on why the FL has to be therapist when she is not obligated to do so and the FL has every valid reason to stay away from her. This is a toxic mindset unless you are "professional therapist". The FL has no time to be someones therapist when she is literally dying everyday so she pick the most practical choice and did you forget that the villainess mere presence is toxic to the fl because she reeks of black magic? So why on earth would she risk it all when she ESPECIALLY knows that the villainess is all out on killing her. Not all world building could be solve in a power of friendship lol.

The Villainess has no valid reason for her revenge so stop create some scenarios that justifies her intentions. Her parents got executed by using and studying black magic. You know why black magic was forbidden by the empire? Because black magic requires the sacrifice of a human body, necromancy and dragging souls into hell. They are a bunch of murderers. Yerenica repeatedly explains it a few times unless you have missed why they are forbidden. Her family has lots of victims and those are the people from Belgoth. So that's why the previous Emperor (ML's father) executed them to bring justice to their victims and to his people. So what does Soleia had the rights to take revenge when her side was in the wrong in the first place and take note that she knows what she was doing. She thinks they were oppress when her kind is the most privilege creatures (wizards) on land along with divine users. Wizards are free to use and study magic anytime and anywhere they want. They were only forbidden to study black magic because it requires murder. So why on earth they feel oppress?

I never said she had to be a therapist but honestly if you take into consideration the facts the fl is more at risk going after the cuz now the villainess has reason to come after her and she only knows that she's cruel to people who cause after the emperor so it's a pretty dumb choice to make. Another thing is people who use divine power can't help her with her magic allergy nor are they able to create an environment that is completely safe for her. Ik it's risky but there is nothing in the novel that says if she reached out for help she would get killed off.

Pls read the whole thread b4 commenting cuz I alrdy addressed this(⌒▽⌒)

I alrdy said this to another person and made a post abt this but I am in no way supporting the way the villainess chooses to get revenge and honestly I believe that the empire should only kill those that preform black magic not study it because with lack of knowledge on something like that opens up door way to a lot of threats which is probably how she was able to successfully get her revenge in the original novel, but I do sympathize with the villainess because at that time she was a child who had no involvement and idk what her parents were doing but they were her world at that time. It's perfectly normal for her to want revenge because they were her family even though they were probably terrible people. And studying black magic doesn't need to include letting ppl perform and observing I'm talking about studying crime scenes and past events.

The villainess is in contract with a demon that senses the FL as a threat therefore shesll be targeted either way. Also the villainess is on a one track road to annihilating everyone so what you're suggesting about her reaching out to the villainess won't make a difference since the villainess would just kill her for reasons of being a nuisance and also someone who knows her being a black magician and also her plans of a mix of power baby. Anyways there is nothing in the novel that says if she reached out for help shell get killed off but there are also context clues in why she cant just carelessly reach out. Also if she were to reveal her knowing the storyline wouldnt that just give the villainess a more definite reason to chase her down and kill her since she knows what the villainess is planning? And its a common flow of thought for anyone to believe that if they were to confess that they know whats gonna happen next and that its a novels world then shell be called crazy.

And I find it hypocritical of you don't like it that the FL is preventing the existence of a villain who will commit massive distraction, tyranny and genocide just because he was obsess with a girl who doesn't even want his ass. And here you are saying the villainess has a valid reason to hate on the ML when the ML was a child at that time so it's not his fault. He basically has no authority to command the execution of the family. And why would you blame the ML for being on guard with her when he has every reason to. First, the ML already knows the scandal that the Villainess makes in order to destroy the other ladies who wants to be a candidate Empress, she also destroys someone's reputation in order for things to go her way and while she is being a bitch to other people, she acts like an innocent love-sick person to him. That is huge red flag to him because he knows she is being fake and has the intention to stab him in the back.

About the ml of the original novel It just rubs me te wrong way cuz he isn't even given a chance at life just cause the author wrote him as an asshole it's like some sort of predestime prophesy for him that he can't escape from which is honestly sad if you consider the environment he was raised in. And I'm not saying that she's doing the wrong thing but there are more options and methods she could go by that could also benefit her more that what she's doing with less trials as well. And another thing please read the rest of the thread before commenting cuz I alrdy stated that I don't support the way the villainess plots her revenge but I do understand she acts that way due to her past but it's still messed up to me the way she's okay with using her child as a tool for revenge.

Ofc ik she can't just come out and say ik what's going to happen in the future and you're a black magician

Lmaoo

Just like you said, the empire should only punish the one who perform black magic. The villainess family DID perform black magic. Her family both perform and study black magic and they mostly inflict those to ordinary citizen and made them as their human experiments. Believe me I read the novel. The translators here in the manhwa chose another phrase in order for it to be different from other translators. It was actually said, 'The old family who practiced black magic" , instead of "studying of black magic". And no she was not successful with her revenge in the OG novel. She wants to create a world where black magicians could rule and by doing that, she needs to fulfill her contact to the demon god Hades and that is to help Hades go back to Judetta but it became a big fat fail when her future son lose his divinity as punishment so her contact with Hades was unsuccessful especially that her pawn which is her son, died or defeated by the OG FL AND OG ML.

And also I do understand her past but this won't make me pity her because she is already an adult who already see the world. She is not sheltered anymore. She was at the right age to feel conscience and practice basic human decency. To contemplate why her parents died. So she has no excuse. We can only pray for her that she will get a redemption arc but overall no one is responsible to the villainess and you can't blame other characters for that.

Yeah, I know already that you don't excuse her. But it rubs me the wrong way when you called the FL a bitch when she has done nothing wrong. She already doing the best she can to prevent a future distraction that will happen. Take note that the FL's niece (OG FL) is will face a bigger trauma because of the future villain's obsession towards her. And as for the future villain, it is better for him to not exist in this Life rather than let him suffer at the abuse and brainwash he will face if the Villainess became his mother. The FL is already fighting the unbreakable cycle of tragedy so she had no other choice.

I understand why her family died and I agree that it was necessary. As for the og novel I thought her main goal was killing the emperor and creating some sort of "peaceful " world for black magicians was more of a side goal because that would be something she would have to do afterwards. And I get ur view on her behaviors as an adult but imo she's still a child In the body of an adult cuz she's recklessly plotting all this without covering her tracks and evrything which is also another thing that's probably going to lead to her downfall in future episodes.

Honestly her character has so much potential and I love how complicated she is cuz she's the most realistic character to me after seeing the way the emperor's acting just cuz of love and the way the fl didn't take into account the possibility of her losing her life while chasing after him and then just demanding that he punish her while knowing that he doesn't have enough material to doir so she seems like a watered down (i was gonna use trashtasha but that would just be unfair to her) version of that blondie in untouchable lady except out to try and save the world.

It feels like the story would be better if the author had given us more insight into the thought process of the villainess and instead of making them enemies gave them a relationship where they're in-between because they each have their own individual goals and that would also make the story more interesting and different to read cuz idk how to properly put this down in writing but they have more to give to each other than they would if one of them died. And it's just crazy cuz if they got along better the villainess would probably be closer to getting over qhat happened in the past and the fl has so much more to benefit from that happening

(Do u mind if I make this debate a discussion post cuz it's getting hard to keep track of where everyone's responses are)

Oh yeah that's cool I get that lol part but at the same time I find her way of moving without properly thinking things through a bit annoying. And about her neice I don't know if her kingdom is conquered in the future but I think the her niece would be safe if she successfully stays alive as a hostage until negotiations are over and the og ml idk abt that cuz I'd rather he have a chance but at the same time ik through experience that trauma like that is smth that he's most likely going to go through and that if she successfully had created a better relationship with the vilainess he probably won't exist in that time line either so at this point i still don't like the way his existence comes into play because it's like he has two choices and a third but almost impossible choice.

But somehow Yerenica is still the bad guy