quick rant and yes ik its not that deep

preach

I agreed with you stranger

For me, I think its just because many Japanese girls are virgins, and they want their first time with an experienced guy that fall in love with her. Thats not romanticize a virgin but its their fantasy to have a hot guy leads them in bed, i guess?

then thats literally romanticizing a bad boy or a fuck boy LOL and its not only a japan thing, girls everywhere think they can change a bad boy, like some kind of wattpad I guess but I guarantee to it never works out in real life.

and they do romanticize innocence, or so bc then why do men get even more excited when they find out that they girl their about to bed is a virgin? oh because she's never been touch by another man, she's a good girl and im about to change that, etc. it should be the same whether the woman is a virgin or not. you get me? I have no problem with virginity and ppl who want to keep it. I just wanted to explain that the standards are that its fine for men to sleep around but not women bc then they seem like a slut or just less appealing

I got what you are saying, sorry if I cannot explain it very well since I’m not a native english speaker. What I’m trying to say is that they just trying to hit the target audience, which is a virgin girl.

Instead of telling the reader “Hey, you have to be a virgin to be loved by hot guy,”

it’s more like “I know you are a virgin and you want a hot guy for your first, here you go!”

It’s hard to explain. IMO, It’s not the author who expect the readers to be virgin. It’s the reader, who is a virgin, want author to write a story about their first night with a hot guy.

That’s how they sell it in their country. The virgin reader pays for this type of cliche, that why they write it. I mean, they have researches about what they can sell to their customer in japan. They know who willing to pay for this.

Don’t get me wrong, I prefer an experienced sexy lady dominate boys, it’s not like I worship virgin or anything. I also know in the real-life these hot guys, who take a move on me this fast, is just a typical fuck boy who cannot be trusted; and I think everyone who read smuts know that as well.

In Japan, in their 20s, 40,6% of men are virgins, against only 25,5% of women. (Stats of 2013)
So no, if we're talking about reality, it would have made a lot more sense for our FL to not be a virgin and our ML to be one.
On that subject, virginity is a pretty interesting concept in Japan, as virginity and chastity wasn't as valued as in other asian countries. If I remember my classes correctly, the concept and glorification of virginity and shyness as represented in mangas right now came more from European and American influences than actually Japanese influence per se. They were a loooot more frisky before the Meiji period.
So, just to say: that kind of fetishisation comes right from the European world and as you were saying, it's a question to match the interest of the readers. But man, would I pay to read a good smutty manga without any kind of bullshit like that and to see shojo manga diversify themselves... (Like, I'm so thirsty for it, if I stumble against a shojo without rape or sexual coercion, with a respect given to both of them and clear consent, without a weak FL and a "I'm going to show you the world of sexuality" ML... Even if the story is crap, I'll rate it 5 stars. I'm THAT thirsty for representation.)

I wouldn't mind if he's experienced but my only problem is that he's "always been in love with her" yet likely slept around like???

Fr what is the obession whit making the fl a virgin and the ml a pro in sex... like ?!?!?

With*

Gods speach right there

Stay woke people

So true bestie

Exactly. I’m just about to comment about that. It’s so irritating, especially on the fact that she’s older. At least let her have some experience and don’t you think if he’s so obsessed with her he would have waited for her?