These duke simps refuse to give up, holy shit!

youraedthiswrogn May 8, 2021 4:45 am

Okay, the latest argument is that "he's not the same person", but it's literally a plot point that he is? So...??

He has his memories, he's being nice BECAUSE he has his memories. What is the argument? ?? He rewound time, yes, but from both his and Reina's perspective the past events happened and Reina is still traumatized by it. Even entertaining that the time magic erased their memories, we know what happened and would be able to judge his actions ourselves. No, rewinding time isn't a "free pass" or something.

Enough with the excuses for him. Yes, he does better in this timeline BECAUSE HE FEELS BAD, but that doesn't give him forgiveness. If i cut off your leg and then pay all your expenses for the rest of your life, you still have the right to suffer due to missing a fucking leg and hate me for it. The pain of losing her baby is still raw, there was no time in between her death and revival from her perspective, she just woke up with that wound still fresh in her memories. It wasn't a 'from scratch' restart, it was a continuation. One second to the next. Him not doing the things he did the first time doesn't matter because she lost her fucking BABY and died and still hates him for that.

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    youraedthiswrogn May 8, 2021 5:03 am

    @simps: You guys know that he's not going to come out of the book and bust you down, right? All this blind denial isn't going to get you laid. Take a whole gallon of water and use a funnel to send it straight down your throat because you guys can't afford to miss a drop.

    Your arguments are INSANE, it's just denial and nothing else.

    おはよう。 May 8, 2021 5:32 am
    @simps: You guys know that he's not going to come out of the book and bust you down, right? All this blind denial isn't going to get you laid. Take a whole gallon of water and use a funnel to send it straight d... youraedthiswrogn

    Sorry, a bit confused here. Is there a spoiler or something that says he goes back too? Just started reading lol.

    If that is the case, AND he doesn’t know she went back too, then I think that his actions are understandable. He wouldn’t realize that she’s traumatized.

    Now, if he knew he was bringing her back, dick move. Explain!!! Give her context, tell her what happened. Do a whole reconciliation with therapy arc or something.

    I’m not going to outline the arguments for if he didn’t go back? Because I assume you’d already know them (he didn’t do it yet yada yada).

    Also. It seems to me that yes she lost her baby, but died a couple of years (?) after, El or Elle being 2-3 y/o. (the kid looked like he could be 5 with this art style, how old do babies walk??? Do children look that long? I have baby cousins so I should know this, but, like, child?)So yes, probably still raw, but maybe more resigned? Would the rawness come from losing her child, or the fact that someone who was essentially her rival in the household taking the child?

    TLDR: slightly confused but politely agreeing! Also timeline issues cuz the kid looks weird. Do kids look like that?

    youraedthiswrogn May 8, 2021 1:13 pm

    "Sorry, a bit confused here. Is there a spoiler or something that says he goes back too? Just started reading lol."

    Yes, there's a spoiler and it also explains hos weird sudden changes.

    "AND he doesn’t know she went back too, then I think that his actions are understandable. He wouldn’t realize that she’s traumatized."

    He's being nice to her in this timeline, what i and most people are saying is that he's still garbage because he chose to make her life hell last timeline and is only being nice now because he learned his lesson, but learning your lesson doesn't automatically absolve you. She is still being harmed by what she went through, it was traumatic.

    Him not knowing she has her memories is just besides the point of whether or not he's still guilty for his past actions.

    "Now, if he knew he was bringing her back, dick move. Explain!!! Give her context, tell her what happened. Do a whole reconciliation with therapy arc or something."

    Yeah, this is one of the things pissing off quite a few people. He agreed to the bribe, but could've said something to her behind closed doors so she didn't suffer as much, but he didn't even do that.

    "Also. It seems to me that yes she lost her baby, but died a couple of years (?) after, El or Elle being 2-3 y/o."

    Yes, but her life all the way up till her death was miserable and all the way up till then she wanted to see Elle.

    maychan May 8, 2021 1:30 pm

    from what I read in some other comments, I didn't read all of them cause I don't care. but I read some of them. and people said that FL didn't love the ML when she marries him and her asshole dad force him to marry her while ML wanted to marry someone else and was engaged

    so, they said, that from ML POV he had a reason to hate her even before the marriage. and that the FL isn't fit to be a mother in the first timeline cause she suffers from trauma or some shit. so she could not even touch him, could not feed him, and could not say she loves him. she only sit there and stare at him what they said the same has neglected the child.

    which to that I say BS! even if it's true it's not enough reason to take her baby away! if anything he should have taught her how to take care of the child and bring her a doctor! and she did love him in her own way, even if they say she could not do much for him, for that they have like nanny! she suffers from mental illness but you can tell she still loves her child and with time she could have learned to be better!

    so yeas, fuck this ML! and from what I seen so suffer he did know she knows about their past too. pretty sure he does but he does not want their child to become crazy again, not cause he a give a damn about her.

    youraedthiswrogn May 8, 2021 2:08 pm
    from what I read in some other comments, I didn't read all of them cause I don't care. but I read some of them. and people said that FL didn't love the ML when she marries him and her asshole dad force him to m... maychan

    We've seen ourselves that she could touch Elle with just the tiniest bit of support

    maychan May 8, 2021 2:14 pm
    We've seen ourselves that she could touch Elle with just the tiniest bit of support youraedthiswrogn

    yeas so I guess what those comments said are stupid bullshit, no surprise ╮( ̄▽ ̄)╭

    おはよう。 May 8, 2021 5:54 pm
    "Sorry, a bit confused here. Is there a spoiler or something that says he goes back too? Just started reading lol."Yes, there's a spoiler and it also explains hos weird sudden changes."AND he doesn’t know she... youraedthiswrogn

    Thank you so much!

    To be clear, I really don’t like the ML, sorry if that wasn’t clear lol.

    Again, thanks!

    youraedthiswrogn May 9, 2021 9:23 am
    Thank you so much!To be clear, I really don’t like the ML, sorry if that wasn’t clear lol.Again, thanks! おはよう。

    No problem :^)