No. No Bueno.

Critic May 8, 2016 8:21 pm

I only got through chapter 2 before I was far too annoyed to read anymore. This one's gonna be a doozy.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c001/35/
"If I permanently traumatize you, you'll remember me forever! God, isn't rape convenient when you're in love?"

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/10/
Not enough attention to not rape you, kiddo, which might be the most important thing.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/13/
"Hey, so, like, you don't hate me or anything after I forced myself on you right? Because I only did it because I love you. That's what people who're in love do. They rape the people they love."
"Oh, nah man, I totally get that, I think you're great, so brave~!"

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/16/
"Be careful around that guy, what if he rapes you? Rape is terrible; I would know, because I *just* did it to you. Small world."
"I don't want anything bad to happen to you. Except like, me forcing you doesn't count because I'm me and that's totally not bad in my case."

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/20/
"You're dangerous!" Said the rapist
Though really mate, find the police and inform them about the unusually high number of scummy males you have in your life.

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/24/
"I TOLD YOU TO BE CAREFUL! HOW DARE YOU LET SOMEONE ELSE RAPE YOU!"

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/27/
Non-con exhibitionism! It just doesn't get better than this, folks!

http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/31/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/32/
http://www.mangago.zone/read-manga/itoshii_to_iu_koto/mh/c002/33/
Pg.31 "Boy, I sure am sorry I raped you once, got angry at you for being attacked, and then attacked you again. It's just, the only way to make someone who's been assaulted feel safe is to RE-ASSAULT THEM. DOUBLE ASSAULT UNDOES THE MENTAL SCARRING! FACT."
Pg. 32 "I love you so much that I couldn't control my penis and it just, shloop, slipped inside you. Stay with me okay?"
Pg.33 *"I want to fall in rape to. Because that's what love is. A fucking disgusting crime. Yaoi 101."

Responses
    Raphael May 29, 2016 9:46 am

    The second couple is way better. The first one really annoyed me too!

    Taphel June 5, 2016 1:09 pm

    Well you've just made my day.
    XD

    Junki July 12, 2016 2:36 am

    I praise your effort for pointing out the already obvious yaoi tropes that make people cringe.
    What can we do...we read through stories like that to find some gems among the mud. Btw, the second couple was cute. No rape, mutual feelings and lasting HEALTHY relationship. Don't read the third couple, the're bond was surely lasting but...well not to your taste.

    SugarySuga July 13, 2016 4:34 pm

    I wouldn't call that rape, actually
    It was forceful, yes, but the uke didn't resist at all. He did say 'stop, no,' but he said it in the "i"m embarassed" way, not the "I don't want it" way.
    He also told the seme to do whatever he wanted. And they even held hands at the end of it, showing he liked the seme
    And the uke was certainly not mentally scarred. I don't see why you'd think that

    Junki July 13, 2016 4:48 pm
    I wouldn't call that rape, actuallyIt was forceful, yes, but the uke didn't resist at all. He did say 'stop, no,' but he said it in the "i"m embarassed" way, not the "I don't want it" way.He also told the seme ... SugarySuga

    Uke being attracted to seme doesn't help make the nature of the crime justice. He was not considering the other party's feelings and decided to force violence on him regardless of uke's choice. Uke consenting him along the way just made his attempt easier. That doesn't mean it's right for anyone to forcefully coerce their romantic interest into sexual activity. If it happened to me in real life, I would cut his dick off so he can't think about getting it up anymore. A more normal, healthy and justice way is to run away and go to police station. It's just that I'm not that kind. ( ̄へ ̄)

    SugarySuga July 13, 2016 5:32 pm
    Uke being attracted to seme doesn't help make the nature of the crime justice. He was not considering the other party's feelings and decided to force violence on him regardless of uke's choice. Uke consenting h... Junki

    Of course, I'm not saying being forceful is ok. But what I'm saying is that I wouldn't go as far as saying it was rape or mentally scarring, since the uke didn't show or say he didn't want it, you can't exactly call him a rapist.
    The seme needed to slow the fuck down and get obvious consent, however. That part bothered me, since semes tend to immediately go for sex without actually confirming that the uke is up for it

    Junki July 13, 2016 7:39 pm
    Of course, I'm not saying being forceful is ok. But what I'm saying is that I wouldn't go as far as saying it was rape or mentally scarring, since the uke didn't show or say he didn't want it, you can't exactly... SugarySuga

    If there is no mutual consent, that is rape. You say uke didn't entirely reject the idea. But he's been saying no since the beginning and if he had a choice and the seme was a decent human being, the whole mess wouldn't have happened inside a shop, late at night, right after a random dude assaulted the uke. All the yaoi semes just push the blame on victims and rape them. Did he comfort his uke after being preyed? No, he further traumatized him. That's the jealousy trope mangakas use because there are fans who read them. A remedy for being raped? Another rape. By your own partner. Because it's so much more healing being blamed for what they're being wronged and your partner doesn't understand your side. And the seme was not thinking about emotional or physical well-being of his partner at all. He was just trying to claim his pet. "See how I'm fucking him hard in front of you? This is my bitch. Don't touch him cause I own him" He didn't have a shred of decency to respect other person's rights and pride, where one wouldn't want to be fucked that way in front of an outsider who looks at him with predator eyes. The other dude even told seme that seeing that didn't discouraged him at all and even made him turned-on more. Anyway, this is not about being labelled 'rape' or not anymore. The whole situation is very wrong on so many levels that if this was outside yaoi world (forget about reality, even in shounen/shoujo manga world) the uke would have never consented to the sex and would have never got it up. The mangaka making uke aroused by that kind of situation will only happen in yaoi/yuri/hentai stereotypes. And this is not the seme's first time doing something like that. The uke just simply accepted it and got over it. Their relationship is unhealthy. Bottom line, it's wrong.

    gay _penguins July 13, 2016 7:50 pm
    If there is no mutual consent, that is rape. You say uke didn't entirely reject the idea. But he's been saying no since the beginning and if he had a choice and the seme was a decent human being, the whole mess... Junki

    yaoi is fake and so is the story dont get your panties in a twist

    Junki July 13, 2016 10:08 pm
    yaoi is fake and so is the story dont get your panties in a twist gay _penguins

    I know. Just excuse my futile rants about injustice stereotypes in yaoi universe cause mangakas keep writing these things based on market demands by fans who don't get their panties in multiple twists. Of course everyone who read yaoi are 18+ 'supposedly' so nothing to worry at all. Everyone can distinguish what's rape is what is morally appropriate for people to do to one another.

    SugarySuga July 14, 2016 5:23 am
    If there is no mutual consent, that is rape. You say uke didn't entirely reject the idea. But he's been saying no since the beginning and if he had a choice and the seme was a decent human being, the whole mess... Junki

    If you're gonna write that much for a yaoi that's 2 chapters long, you know you're looking wayyy too deep into it.
    I'll just sorta agree with you on the rape part, since it wasn't fully consensual, but I can't agree with the mentally scarring part. In no way was the uke mentally scarred. If the uke isn't against the relationship then I don't see why you need to be.
    The mangaka made the uke to love the seme no matter what and that is not gonna change, so if you think it's an unhealthy relationship then fine, sure, you analyze it how you want, I don't completely disagree with that, but you're turning a short manga with an obvious happy end (they're both happy in the end, you can't deny that, whether it was rape or not) into some psychological, twisted story

    gay _penguins July 14, 2016 6:28 am
    I know. Just excuse my futile rants about injustice stereotypes in yaoi universe cause mangakas keep writing these things based on market demands by fans who don't get their panties in multiple twists. Of cours... Junki

    are you trying to be fucking sarcastic? sugarysuga is right if you have the time to write a long ass newspaper about a 2 shot yaoi you probably have too much time on your hands and bored as fuck.can i repeat : THIS IS FAKE. YAOI IS FAKE. if people are sane, they would obviously not take yaoi as an example of how they should treat their partners in real life. and yaoi started out to be rape and psychological in the first place, it changed to be sickeningly sweet if it was still in the time where yaoi not all sugar and spice, and everything was rape this rape that you think you would go around ranting on every book that rape is wrong?? heres the deal, people know rape is wrong but this is really just a damn story to satisfy fantasy/ needs that the mangaka give to the fans, its not for people to think so deep about it, your just supposed to shut up and enjoy the story, if you dont like it move on.

    Critic July 14, 2016 8:10 am

    @gay _penguins, @SugarySuga
    Jesus christ, I wish I could delete comments. While I do agree with Junki, this went way too far. I don't necessarily give a shit about either of your opinions, you're more than welcome to disagree, but please stop clogging this topic with angry bullshit. Junki has their opinions just like you have yours. Chill the fuck out.

    gay _penguins July 14, 2016 9:04 am
    @gay _penguins, @SugarySugaJesus christ, I wish I could delete comments. While I do agree with Junki, this went way too far. I don't necessarily give a shit about either of your opinions, you're more than welco... Critic

    in case you havent noticed you started this shit so dont be coming over here giving me crap about it, " please stop clogging this topic with angry bullshit. Junki has their opinions just like you have yours" bitch please you started this topic becuase you were being butthurt as fuck over a stupid story and like you said i have my own opinions and i am free to express them where i want and when the fuck i want, my advice to you: STOP READING YAOI IF YOU HATE RAPE most yaois have them and if your gonna be butthurt as fuck over every single story you think is rape, dont read yaoi, better yet dont read or do anything becuase im sure your the type of person who would hate on something that you think offened you in anyway even though it had nothing to do you you, yeah GET OFF THE FUCKING INTERNET, you see shit like this everyday so go take your shelterd little ass back inside your house door locked, becuase your being butthurt as fuck, you dont know the other persons side of the story so dont assume its something when you dont know becuase your not in their position, you DONT really know if it was rape you DONT really know if the uke didnt really like it, you DONT know shit so stop assuming shit and think that your opinion is right and no one elses was, what im commenting on isisnt "angry bullshit" its giving you a taste of others opinions that you "dont give a shit about",its a reality check that you DONT know so stop assuming you, i swear if you do get butthurt or anyone for that matter get butthurt over this comment wow please go reevaluate your pathetic life

    SugarySuga July 14, 2016 3:13 pm
    @gay _penguins, @SugarySugaJesus christ, I wish I could delete comments. While I do agree with Junki, this went way too far. I don't necessarily give a shit about either of your opinions, you're more than welco... Critic

    I'm not exactly angry, and I'm surprised you think I am, I thought I was somewhat calm. But I'm tired of replying anyways, so I'll just shut up now

    Critic July 15, 2016 9:44 am
    in case you havent noticed you started this shit so dont be coming over here giving me crap about it, " please stop clogging this topic with angry bullshit. Junki has their opinions just like you have yours" bi... gay _penguins

    XD if this comment isn't you getting but hurt and having nothing to do in you "pathetic life" aside from yell at people online, I don't know what it is. I'm gonna mosey on off and keep reading and commenting while you continue having your hernia over here. I can't imagine how you live with that anger problem, mate.
    Toodles lol

    Critic July 15, 2016 9:46 am
    I'm not exactly angry, and I'm surprised you think I am, I thought I was somewhat calm. But I'm tired of replying anyways, so I'll just shut up now SugarySuga

    My bad then, whoops. After reading penguin's increasing fury, everything just sounded like it was frothing at the mouth lol

    SugarySuga July 15, 2016 3:09 pm
    My bad then, whoops. After reading penguin's increasing fury, everything just sounded like it was frothing at the mouth lol Critic

    Ikr, no one even has the time to read that

    gay _penguins July 15, 2016 7:39 pm
    XD if this comment isn't you getting but hurt and having nothing to do in you "pathetic life" aside from yell at people online, I don't know what it is. I'm gonna mosey on off and keep reading and commenting wh... Critic

    obvioulsy i was getting butthurt becuase you litterally degraded my opinion and acted like yours was better by calling mine bullshit and @sugarysuga fuck off bitch aint nobody was talking to you and aint nobody was asking you to read what was not directed towards you mind your business fuck off you white bitches

    SugarySuga July 15, 2016 8:44 pm
    obvioulsy i was getting butthurt becuase you litterally degraded my opinion and acted like yours was better by calling mine bullshit and @sugarysuga fuck off bitch aint nobody was talking to you and aint nobody... gay _penguins

    "fuck off white bitches"
    So..that's not me then

    Junki July 16, 2016 8:34 am

    Opps! My browser accidentally logged off and I was not aware of notifications. I was happily reading unTouchable on webtoon website and came back to this. Mr.Angry Penguins, I wonder why you would rain down profanities at someone else's thread and tell them to "don't be coming over here giving me crap about it". Critic is the thread owner so you're welcome to not be here anytime. And you just agreed Sugar in your second comment and said Sugar is right. Then you then say "fuck off bitch aint nobody was talking to you". You called Sugar "white bitch" when you are the one who preached "you dont know the other persons side of the story so dont assume its something when you dont know becuase your not in their position". You say you're not angry? Oh puh-leese! You can't even keep your conversation straight. And yes, I'm currently free at the moment. And I'm enjoying every moment of my vacation. What's so wrong about writing a newspaper about rape being wrong? My initial point is that, rape plays a big percentage in yaoi genre and it's sad because yaoi basically means boys love (gay community) and rape should be only a minor drama plot device instead of the whole trope where people think "I raped you because I love you". There should be more stories about rapists being prosecuted, semes comforting ukes after being raped, showing them understanding. A more 'logical' way of thinking in these stories.
    Sugar and me were having a civil conversation about our disagreements. If you want your opinion to be respected, act like respectable speaker. At least I don't grab my opinions and throw them at your face.